Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~

Rob Mills wrote:
Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~

You've already got a compressor? If so, just go to Harbor Freight and
get what you need for much, much less than $200. I'm really thinking
about getting a Dewalt cordless nailer, but that'll set you back ~$400.
Very, very convenient.

JP

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:44:14 -0500, "Rob Mills"
wrote:

Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~



I like Porter Cable. They are quality, not as good as Senco, but half
the price. There are several models depending on your specific
applications. I have the Porter Cable BN200A which can drive a
variety of brad sizes.

"Phisherman" wrote in message

I like Porter Cable. They are quality, not as good as Senco, but half
the price. There are several models depending on your specific
applications. I have the Porter Cable BN200A which can drive a
variety of brad sizes.

Ditto ... my PC finish nailer is a work horse. The only problem I have with
it is when I shoot all the nails and think it's still loaded. Other than
that, it is pretty damn hard to beat.

--
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Last update: 12/13/05

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:44:14 -0500, Rob Mills wrote:
Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be??

I _love_ my Senco FP41XP. On sale at Amazon for $199.

--
Art

Rob Mills wrote:
Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~


Nailers are like planes--you can't own just one.

I use a 15ga angle nailer, an 18ga straight finish nailer, a 1/4" crown
stapler, and in a couple of days a 23ga pin nailer.

IF you want it for baseboards and crown molding, get the 15 ga instead
of the 18 ga.

Dave

Rob Mills wrote:

Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~


I forgot: all of them are Porter Cable, including my framing nailer (I
left that out, because that's probably not what you are looking for),
with the exception of the Cadex pinner. All the PC nailers I have work
fine for me. No jams, they sink the nails in below the surface, and I
don't mind adding a couple of drops of oil to them no and again.

Dave

i have a hitachi 2" 18 gauge brad nailer which i got factory
reconditioned for $80. love it.

technically, no. but for the occasional home shop user trying to save
a buck, the distinction is probably not important.

Thanks to all who have replied but am still somewhat confused and am going
through the same bit of confusion I had before I purchased a framing nailer
several years ago. I am sort of prejudiced to Porter Cable because I already
have a FC350 and it's been a jewel. I notice that you can get a
DA250B/re-built direct from Porter Cable for $129. Has anyone had any
experience with re-builds? RM~

On 4/14/2006 11:44 AM Rob Mills mumbled something about the following:
Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~



Harbor Freight

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"Rob Mills" wrote in message
news:2CT%f.32094$gE.27882@dukeread06...


I notice that you can get a DA250B/re-built direct from Porter Cable for
$129. Has anyone had any experience with re-builds?

Now I see that Amazon has them new for the same money, $129 but show the
re-build as "unavailable", maybe I'll hold off and see if they become
available at Amazon. RM~

PS, Like everyone else, I'm looking for the mostest for leastest. :-)

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:37:42 -0500, Rob Mills wrote:

"Rob Mills" wrote in message
news:2CT%f.32094$gE.27882@dukeread06...


I notice that you can get a DA250B/re-built direct from Porter Cable for
$129. Has anyone had any experience with re-builds?

Now I see that Amazon has them new for the same money, $129 but show the
re-build as "unavailable", maybe I'll hold off and see if they become
available at Amazon. RM~

PS, Like everyone else, I'm looking for the mostest for leastest. :-)

I bought a refurb P-C brad nailer from Woodcraft for $49. I haven't used it
very much yet, but it seems fine. P-C refurbs do come with a warranty.

--
Art

"Odinn" wrote in message
...

Harbor Freight

Guess I should look at them, have a HF less than 2 miles from the house. I
have a lot of their stuff, paint guns, air hose and I love the little 2 or 3
dollar volt ohm meters they have every now and then. I have 4 or 5 of them,
that's so I can find one when I need it and I don't cry when I drop one off
a ladder. I have checked their accuracy against my Simpson and Triplett
meters and they are right on the money. How did I get on that subject??

Thanks all, RM~

"Art Greenberg" wrote in message
ink.net...

P-C refurbs do come with a warranty.


I sort of thought that they might. I think I'll just wait a while and see if
Amazon comes up with a re-built. I've always had good luck ordering things
from Amazon, bought my framing gun from them several years ago. RM~

On 4/14/2006 5:08 PM Rob Mills mumbled something about the following:
"Odinn" wrote in message
...

Harbor Freight

Guess I should look at them, have a HF less than 2 miles from the house. I
have a lot of their stuff, paint guns, air hose and I love the little 2 or 3
dollar volt ohm meters they have every now and then. I have 4 or 5 of them,
that's so I can find one when I need it and I don't cry when I drop one off
a ladder. I have checked their accuracy against my Simpson and Triplett
meters and they are right on the money. How did I get on that subject??

Thanks all, RM~



Closest HF to me is about 40 or so miles and hard to get to. I only go
there if I happen to be in the neighborhood, which is almost never. I
used to order from the web, but I can't seem to figure out how to do
that since they changed their website.

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What are you talking about?

"marson" wrote in message
oups.com...
technically, no. but for the occasional home shop user trying to save
a buck, the distinction is probably not important.

Adjustable depth essential regardless the brand.

I have Stanley (Coil Nailer + Stapler) ) and Porter Cable (Finish). Had to
replace trigger switch on the Stanley ($30) after several years of hard use.


"Rob Mills" wrote in message
news:frP%f.32075$gE.11011@dukeread06...
Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were
going to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and
just general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it
be?? RM~

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:34:46 -0700, pe wrote:

FREE shipping as well. g

And no sales tax. gg

My wife recently wanted a Cusinart elect griddle, the best price I could
find in town was $129 + sales tax. I got on line with amazon and had one
delivered to my door for $104. RM~

"Gooey TARBALLS" wrote in message
news:YZV%f.361$V73.336@trnddc06...


Had to replace trigger switch on the Stanley ($30) after several years
of hard use.

My Porter Cable FC350 framing gun was so aggressive I was scared of it. I'm
70 yr old and don't have the strength to hold it at arms length like I could
at 21 and It would get off 3 or 4 rounds (nails) on a single pull of the
trigger, I would have nails whizzing by in every direction. I called PC and
told them that I needed a flack jacket or some kind of relief and they sent
me a much less aggressive trigger assembly that just releases one nail at a
time free of charge. RM~

On 4/14/2006 4:25 PM marson mumbled something about the following:
technically, no. but for the occasional home shop user trying to save
a buck, the distinction is probably not important.


Technically, no, WHAT??

The distinction between what and what?

What are you talking about?

If you quoted the person you were responding to, it might be easier to
figure this out.

--
Odinn
RCOS #7 SENS BS ???

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton

Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org
'03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
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Odinn wrote:
On 4/14/2006 4:25 PM marson mumbled something about the following:

technically, no. but for the occasional home shop user trying to save
a buck, the distinction is probably not important.


Technically, no, WHAT??

The distinction between what and what?

What are you talking about?

If you quoted the person you were responding to, it might be easier to
figure this out.

I don't think you want to know.

er
--
email not valid

wrote in message

If you quoted the person you were responding to, it might be easier to
figure this out.

LOL!
You're the dumbass using filters.

At one point I figured you just had a love-hate thing for Lee Valley tools.
I see now that your life in all respects consists of being a low life troll.
Wouldn't be surprised if your dog bit you in the butt every morning just out
of spite.

On 4/15/2006 2:10 AM mumbled something about
the following:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:37:06 -0400, Odinn wrote:

If you quoted the person you were responding to, it might be easier to
figure this out.

LOL!
You're the dumbass using filters.

I'm not using filters, you stupid ****.

--
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RCOS #7 SENS BS ???

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton

Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org
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On 4/15/2006 12:09 PM pe mumbled something about the
following:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 08:59:34 -0400, Odinn wrote:

On 4/15/2006 2:10 AM mumbled something about
the following:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:37:06 -0400, Odinn wrote:

If you quoted the person you were responding to, it might be easier to
figure this out.
LOL!
You're the dumbass using filters.
I'm not using filters, you stupid ****.

Then you're just dumb or ignorant of how news readers work.
Use the reference message ID in the 'non quoting poster's' header to bring up
and read the post to which he is referring. If your news reader doesn't allow
this, get a better news reader.

No, YOU are the ignorant one here. My newsreader does just fine
following threads, but when I'm using my handheld, I can't keep every
message on it, so they are deleted after I read them. I'm then left
with only the new messages the next time I pull messages. It's also
PROPER netiquette (something you OBVIOUSLY know nothing about) to quote
the relevant pieces of what you are responding to.

Now, continue with your ignorant life.

--
Odinn
RCOS #7 SENS BS ???

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton

Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org
'03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
'97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
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Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org

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On 4/15/2006 4:14 PM pe mumbled something about the following:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:17:11 -0400, Odinn wrote:

Then you're just dumb or ignorant of how news readers work.
Use the reference message ID in the 'non quoting poster's' header to bring up
and read the post to which he is referring. If your news reader doesn't allow
this, get a better news reader.
No, YOU are the ignorant one here. My newsreader does just fine
following threads, but when I'm using my handheld, I can't keep every
message on it, so they are deleted after I read them.

That doesn't matter if you are ONLINE.
A good news reader will retrieve it again.
Stop being so ****ing lazy and quit whining.
Nobody owes you a quote.
If you can't follow a thread stop reading.


Oh, like you and your whining? yeah right. Go get a life.

--
Odinn
RCOS #7 SENS BS ???

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton

Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org
'03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
'97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net
Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org

rot13 to reply

On 4/15/2006 4:39 PM pe mumbled something about the following:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:29:13 -0400, Odinn wrote:

Oh, like you and your whining? yeah right. Go get a life.

Would you like me to teach you how to use a news reader?


You're still clueless. Too bad you don't have the brains to get a clue.
You have nothing to show me, nothing to teach me. I'm finished with
you, go play fetch with the red ball with someone else now.

--
Odinn
RCOS #7 SENS BS ???

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never
worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton

Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org
'03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide
'97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic
Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net
Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org

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pe writes:

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 08:59:34 -0400, Odinn wrote:

On 4/15/2006 2:10 AM mumbled something about
the following:
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:37:06 -0400, Odinn wrote:

If you quoted the person you were responding to, it might be easier to
figure this out.

LOL!
You're the dumbass using filters.

I'm not using filters, you stupid ****.

Then you're just dumb or ignorant of how news readers work.
Use the reference message ID in the 'non quoting poster's' header to bring up
and read the post to which he is referring. If your news reader doesn't allow
this, get a better news reader.

When did your medication wear off? Or are you just dumb or ignorant of
how news transfer occurs?

There is no guarantee that the original post ever even made it to his
news server.

There is no guarantee that the orignal post arrived before the
followup.

Providing at least a small quantity of the original post, to maintain
the context, is helpful. If you want people to listen to what you're
saying, make it easy for them. Otherwise, people will come to the
conclusion that you're just too high-maintenance.

"Odinn" wrote in message
You're still clueless. Too bad you don't have the brains to get a clue.
You have nothing to show me, nothing to teach me. I'm finished with
you, go play fetch with the red ball with someone else now.

Jimmy's constant whining really makes me wonder how he survives in a world
where absolutely nothing is as perfect as he'd like it.

pe writes:

On 15 Apr 2006 21:07:52 -0600, D Smith wrote:

There is no guarantee that the original post ever even made it to his
news server.

There is no guarantee that the orignal post arrived before the
followup.

Then change servers.
There are a dozen free news servers that don't lose posts.
I haven't found a post missing on the server I use EVER.

There you go again. Other people should change newsreaders to suit
you. Other people should change news servers to suit you. All because
you're too bloody lazy to include enough of a previous post to indicate
context. Well, at least this time you DID leave in enough of my post to
make it easy to follow, but:

You ARE high-maintenance.

D Smith wrote:
pe writes:

On 15 Apr 2006 21:07:52 -0600, D Smith wrote:

There is no guarantee that the original post ever even made it to his
news server.

There is no guarantee that the orignal post arrived before the
followup.

Then change servers.
There are a dozen free news servers that don't lose posts.
I haven't found a post missing on the server I use EVER.

There you go again. Other people should change newsreaders to suit
you. Other people should change news servers to suit you. All because
you're too bloody lazy to include enough of a previous post to indicate
context. Well, at least this time you DID leave in enough of my post to
make it easy to follow, but:

You ARE high-maintenance.


Not high maintenance, just high, perhaps. I particularly enjoyed his

"I haven't found a post missing on the server I use EVER."

Isn't that a bit like, "Everyone who's not here, raise their hand?"

Like, how would he know?

There is no guarantee that the original post arrived before the
followup.


Very true! I have seen replies show up as much as 24 hours before the
original post. I have also made posts/replies that never did show up.
Doesn't happen often but does happen. RM~

wrote in message

I have 5 servers.

I was about to say again that you're full of it, but you probably do have
five servers. It would be a very reasonable explanation as to why you have
no life except whining and trolling.

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:44:14 -0500, "Rob Mills"
wrote:

Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~



I have two; a Porter Cable FN250B and a Porter Cable DA250B. I think
highly of them both, but if I had to have only one it would be the
DA250B.

Frank

You need to remember a few things:

"Finishing nailer" means a couple of
different things in that industry.

Finish Nailer for molding = 15 gauge 2.5" nails MAX
Finish Nailer for trim = 16 gauge 2.5" nails max.
Brad Nailer for trim = 18 gauge 2" nails max.
Pin Nailer for trim = VERY Small 1" max.

We won't go into wide crown staplers but you are
going to want one of those for fastning backs on
cabinets and other stuff.



Most of the above can be had for under $200
not including price of compressor.

Go here and browse your heart out....

http://www.portercable.com/

http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=2590




Rob Mills wrote:
Probably going to open a can of worms here but here goes. If you were going
to own one finish nailer (under $200) for "occasional" home shop and just
general "occasional" light duty home improvement use which would it be?? RM~

Pat Barber wrote:
You need to remember a few things:

"Finishing nailer" means a couple of
different things in that industry.

Finish Nailer for molding = 15 gauge 2.5" nails MAX
Finish Nailer for trim = 16 gauge 2.5" nails max.
Brad Nailer for trim = 18 gauge 2" nails max.
Pin Nailer for trim = VERY Small 1" max.


Pin nailers can be had all the way up to 1-3/8". I'll have one tomorrow
that handles 1-3/16".

dave

I admit I don't have a lot of knowledge in those guns.

PC has one but they are very proud of a gun that shoots
tiny pieces of wire basically.

who makes the 1 3/8" version ???

David wrote:



Pin nailers can be had all the way up to 1-3/8". I'll have one tomorrow
that handles 1-3/16".

dave

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...


if I had to have only one it would be the DA250B.

I've just about decided that's the one I'm going to go with. I have a PC
FC350 framing gun and a C H brad nailer. I'm hoping amazon will come up with
a re-built DA250b.
Thanks, RM~

Pat Barber wrote:
I admit I don't have a lot of knowledge in those guns.

PC has one but they are very proud of a gun that shoots
tiny pieces of wire basically.

who makes the 1 3/8" version ???

David wrote:



Pin nailers can be had all the way up to 1-3/8". I'll have one
tomorrow that handles 1-3/16".

dave
Grex and Cadex (same gun)

I just got my Cadex today. The "nails" are so tiny I had to get a
magnifying glass to figure out which way to load the magazine, because
they are headless. The gun also shoots small head nails too.

Dave

In article ,
says...
Pat Barber wrote:
I admit I don't have a lot of knowledge in those guns.

PC has one but they are very proud of a gun that shoots
tiny pieces of wire basically.

who makes the 1 3/8" version ???

David wrote:



Pin nailers can be had all the way up to 1-3/8". I'll have one
tomorrow that handles 1-3/16".

dave
Grex and Cadex (same gun)

I just got my Cadex today. The "nails" are so tiny I had to get a
magnifying glass to figure out which way to load the magazine, because
they are headless. The gun also shoots small head nails too.

Dave

I've had a 23 Ga. PC pin nailer for a while and wonder why I waited so
long to get one. The holes are so tiny they virtually disappear. But,
it is not a nail gun. It is great, though for attaching molding or
other parts that you are glueing. As Dave pointed out the pins are
headless but the ones that came with the gun and the ones I bought are
marked with arrows so you aren't as likely to install them backwards.