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Mike Sollins
 
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I once saw a method for making curved joints, but I'm not sure I
remember the details. I couldn't find anything on it either googling or
looking through various books. Imagine a very shallow "s-cuve" joining 2
pieces (with the grain). I *think* this can be done with a single
template and a pattern-following bit (or a bushing) by rough cutting the
curved joint line, then placing the 2 pieces slightly closer together
than the diameter of the bit, with the template set so that the cut will
follow the (imaginary) center line of the joint and trim just enough of
both pieces to clean up the edges. Does this sound right? Seems like it
should work, and I am about to give it a try, but thought I'd ask too.
Maybe the hardest part will be clamping down the two pieces and the
template! It does occur to me that whichever direction I feed
the router will be right for one piece and wrong for the other, but
maybe it'll be OK since the cut won't be very deep?
(Oh... why would I want to do this? Gluing the pieces back together
with a thin strip of wood of a contrasting color sandwiched in between
gives a nice effect.)

Thanks for any advice.

-Mike Sollins
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Morris Dovey
 
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Mike Sollins (in ) said:

| I once saw a method for making curved joints, but I'm not sure I
| remember the details. I couldn't find anything on it either

snip

| (Oh... why would I want to do this? Gluing the pieces back together
| with a thin strip of wood of a contrasting color sandwiched in
| between gives a nice effect.)

Sounds interesting. I can't help but would like to see it. Please post
a picture to ABPW of the result!

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Mike,

Check out some of the joints Pat Warner has on his website. Its
exactly what your talking about. If memory serves me correct, there is
a lot more detail in his books.


http://www.patwarner.com/patternbits.html

http://www.patwarner.com/precision_routing.html

Chuck

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"Mike Sollins" wrote in message
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I once saw a method for making curved joints, but I'm not sure I remember
the details. I couldn't find anything on it either googling or looking
through various books. Imagine a very shallow "s-cuve" joining 2 pieces
(with the grain). I *think* this can be done with a single template and a
pattern-following bit (or a bushing) by rough cutting the curved joint
line, then placing the 2 pieces slightly closer together than the diameter
of the bit, with the template set so that the cut will follow the
(imaginary) center line of the joint and trim just enough of both pieces to
clean up the edges. Does this sound right? Seems like it


I saw a few pictures of this in a magazine once. It does sound right,
except
you don't need to (and perhaps shouldn't) route both pieces at the same
time.
I've carried around the tip in my head for a very long time since I always
wanted
to try it, too. I finally got a template bushing a week or two ago, so it's
inevitable.
Please let us know how it turns out.

- Owen -



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If you do rout both pieces a the same time the cut radii will
be different by the width of the bit and the pieces may not
fit too well. A lot depends on how shallow the curves are.

There's a nice article in AWW#118 [Nov 05] pg 73 on
how to do curved borders with 2 templates for a perfect
fit of deep 90° corners.

Art

"Owen Lawrence" wrote in message
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"Mike Sollins" wrote in message
. ..
I once saw a method for making curved joints, but I'm not sure I remember
the details. I couldn't find anything on it either googling or looking
through various books. Imagine a very shallow "s-cuve" joining 2 pieces
(with the grain). I *think* this can be done with a single template and a
pattern-following bit (or a bushing) by rough cutting the curved joint
line, then placing the 2 pieces slightly closer together than the diameter
of the bit, with the template set so that the cut will follow the
(imaginary) center line of the joint and trim just enough of both pieces to
clean up the edges. Does this sound right? Seems like it


I saw a few pictures of this in a magazine once. It does sound right,
except
you don't need to (and perhaps shouldn't) route both pieces at the same
time.
I've carried around the tip in my head for a very long time since I always
wanted
to try it, too. I finally got a template bushing a week or two ago, so it's
inevitable.
Please let us know how it turns out.

- Owen -







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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:58:21 +0000, Mike Sollins wrote:
I once saw a method for making curved joints, but I'm not sure I remember
the details. I couldn't find anything on it either googling or looking
through various books. Imagine a very shallow "s-cuve" joining 2 pieces
(with the grain).


There's something about this in a book called Woodworking with the Router
by Bill Hylton and Fred Matlack which I'd highly recommend getting.

However, I've scanned in the four pages that deal with this and am about
to post a zip to abpw.

Cheers,


Andy


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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:44:42 +0000, Andy Jeffries wrote:
However, I've scanned in the four pages that deal with this and am about
to post a zip to abpw.


Four separate png files in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking now :-)

Cheers,


Andy


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Mike Sollins
 
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Thanks to all for the various bits of advice!
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Fine Woodworking #179, Sept/Oct 2005 - Cut Matching Curves. Excellent
article.

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Did you also pay the royalties to the copyright holder?

"Andy Jeffries" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:44:42 +0000, Andy Jeffries wrote:
However, I've scanned in the four pages that deal with this and am about
to post a zip to abpw.


Four separate png files in alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking now :-)

Cheers,


Andy


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Max Mahanke wrote:
Fine Woodworking #179, Sept/Oct 2005 - Cut Matching Curves. Excellent
article.

"Mike Sollins" wrote in message
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I once saw a method for making curved joints, but I'm not sure I
remember the details. "snip"




And, very conveniently, FWW's website has a video of this article!
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/wvt116.asp

Thanks!
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Some of this curvy line work in FWW 75.

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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:02:21 +0000, CW wrote:
Did you also pay the royalties to the copyright holder?


Nope, but I'm sure under the Copyright Act of 1976 (as it's a US book)
posting four pages of a large book (with an attribution to the author) for
not-for-profit educational purposes would be considered Fair Use.

If you like I could continue with a legal debate about whether it
constitutes fair use, but to be honest there are better places to discuss
copyright infringement (or not) and I don't have the time/inclination.

Get a life, more people would see those 4 pages and think "this looks like
a cool book, I'll order it from Amazon" than "Cool, now I've got these
four pages I won't bother buying the book, mwahahaha! (evil maniacal laugh)".

At the end of the day, I posted using my real name and my real domain name
(and a valid email). If the publishers really want to sue me for it, I've
left it painfully easy for them to obtain my contact details.

However, I'm sure they appreciate the public recommendation and
educational snippet more than the negative press for suing someone under
these circumstances..

Regards,


Andy


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