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Repairing Door.
I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the
lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. This post was cross-posted to alt.home.repair. Thanks in advance. |
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Repairing Door.
I've repaired a fir entry door. It was drastic surgery, but the repair has
lasted for 6 years and still sound. I replaced the rotten wood with new fir wood. I'll be glad to post a couple of photos if it will help. IIRC, I used Gorilla glue on the glue ups. wrote in message ups.com... I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. This post was cross-posted to alt.home.repair. Thanks in advance. |
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Repairing Door.
A photos would be useful. I am having a hard time trying to gauge how
much can be done.. Feel free to email them to my gmail account. |
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Repairing Door.
"Lowell Holmes" wrote in message news:l3Dgf.2853$F%3.165@trnddc05... I've repaired a fir entry door. It was drastic surgery, but the repair has lasted for 6 years and still sound. I replaced the rotten wood with new fir wood. I'll be glad to post a couple of photos if it will help. IIRC, I used Gorilla glue on the glue ups. wrote in message ups.com... I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. This post was cross-posted to alt.home.repair. Thanks in advance. Try this link. This is very good stuff to repair rotted wood. He has other products to fill wood too. http://www.smithandcompany.org/CPES/index.html Larry |
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Repairing Door.
To replace the door which is curved would require removing and
rebuilding the frame, which given how this frame was built would require redoing the stucco.. So this would be a really big job. Bigger than repairing the door? I don't know yet. |
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Repairing Door.
Pat wrote:
To replace the door which is curved would require removing and rebuilding the frame, which given how this frame was built would require redoing the stucco.. So this would be a really big job. Bigger than repairing the door? I don't know yet. Why not reproduce the door. Curved doors can still be produced. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message . .. Pat wrote: To replace the door which is curved would require removing and rebuilding the frame, which given how this frame was built would require redoing the stucco.. So this would be a really big job. Bigger than repairing the door? I don't know yet. Why not reproduce the door. Curved doors can still be produced. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit Reproduction maybe for a price far exceeding $2k. Even a quality flat wood door can exceed $1k Have you considered a wood epoxy filler. These can be molded like putty and after hardening can be cut and sanded. Matching a transparent stain might be impossible but paint or opaque stain would be OK. This material I have seen used to repair rotted window sills, just be sure to rout or cut out all rotted and damaged wood. You may also need to cut keyways (slots wider at the bottom) so the filler does not fall out if the wood expands or shrinks with humidity. A router with a flaired bit is excellent for removing rotted material as is any roto tool for smaller areas. Saturate the remaining wood with Jasco wood preservative (clear or green) or similar product to prevent any future rot or insect invasion. Do this after the repair in case the preservative makes any adhesives stick poorly. |
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Repairing Door.
wrote in message
I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. I just repaired a pair of exterior Douglas Fir, sliding garage side doors for someone. Pictures are already posted at: http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects9.htm ..... and may give you some ideas on at least one approach to repairing a rotten bottom rail. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/05 |
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Repairing Door.
Thanks. The pictures really help. Your door was in worse shape than
mine currently appears to be. Any comment on merits of using dowel over biscuits over splines? I can do either, just wondering. |
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"Pat" wrote in message
Thanks. The pictures really help. Your door was in worse shape than mine currently appears to be. Any comment on merits of using dowel over biscuits over splines? I can do either, just wondering. Only that I am far from being a fan of dowel joinery as a rule, but I do believe in using the best joinery method consistent with the desired result, and in not taking an unnecessary amount of time in doing it. Having at least some expertise with most all the joinery methods that could have been used in this situation, and the tools to do them, and since there was really no shear or racking forces involved with these hanging doors, I made a judgment call that dowels would be sufficient for this task, and they were certainly quicker ... only time will tell. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/05 |
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Repairing Door.
It would be helpful if you could post picture of the offending door.
Otherwise, I would vote for replacement, but even that's hard to say without knowing how bad the rot is. I'm not a fan of having some sort of weak exterior door. |
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Swingman wrote:
wrote in message I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. I just repaired a pair of exterior Douglas Fir, sliding garage side doors for someone. Pictures are already posted at: http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects9.htm You do some nice work there. .... and may give you some ideas on at least one approach to repairing a rotten bottom rail. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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Repairing Door.
On 21 Nov 2005 23:22:19 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth: I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. First, stop the rot, then fill with epoxy. http://www.factsfacts.com/MyHomeRepair/rotrepair.htm There are many epoxy wood filler kits available nowadays which would repair your door prior to repainting. DAGS on "epoxy wood filler" for lots of hits. http://www.google.com/search?num=100...xy+wood+filler Second-best might be a polyester filler like Bondo, but it won't last as long or be as sturdy. -- ************************************************** ********* "Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars! O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." --Tim Allen ************************************************** ********* |
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Repairing Door.
wrote in message ups.com... I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. This post was cross-posted to alt.home.repair. Thanks in advance. Have you considered Bondo? An auto body filler. Warren |
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Repairing Door.
Google on the rec.boats newsgroup on "transom repair" There are a
number of products discussed that are designed to structurally repair the wood while stopping or slowing the rot process. I assume these would be sandable and paintable. Dave Hall On 21 Nov 2005 23:22:19 -0800, wrote: I have Douglas Fir paneled entry (exterior) door that has rot on the lower center stile. Some wood worm holes on the middle center stile and what appears to a new bottom rail (10 inches high) made out of a some sort of yellow pine. The door is curved and getting a replacement is going to be very hard. So I am left in the position of having to repair it. I am looking for suggestions on how to stop the rot and wondering if I can fill the damage with something so i don't have to replace the center stile. Also what would be a good filler for the woodworm holes. The door will be repainted when I am done. This post was cross-posted to alt.home.repair. Thanks in advance. |
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