I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...

Any advice gladly accepted

Deborah

What do you have now?

What do you want to make?

Do you own the home or just renting?

How much room do you have?

Can you borrow for a time tools from relatives as you get started?

Alan

"Deborah Kelly" wrote in message
...
I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...

Any advice gladly accepted

What do you plan to make? A bandsaw and lathe is nice if you are into
turning. Tablesaw is good if you will be working with sheet goods and
making bookcases and furniture. Are you more into power tools or hand
tools?

Very little is needed if you are just going to do fret work on a scroll saw.

Tablesaws run from $200 to $2000. The more you pay, the better the saw, the
fence, etc. How serious and how experienced are you? Not sure if
woodworking was going to be a long term hobby, I started with the $200 saw,
but a year later bought a much better one for $800. My total investment is
about $7500 now.

If nothing else, buy a couple of clamps. You can never have too many
clamps.

Deborah Kelly wrote:
I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...


Probably the most function in a shop is cutting.

To cut, you need saws.

My choices were as follows:

Delta contractor's saw complete with a 30" UniFence and a mobile base.

About $800-$900.

A Bosch Saber saw.

About $150.

A Bosch 6" ROS.

I just replaced one for $133 delivered.

A Porter-Cable or equal router kit.

About $200.

An 18 VDC drill package kit.

About $200-$300.

Add about $300 for good saw blades for the Delta and the Bosch.

Add about $200 for router bits.

The above puts you in a good to go position with power tools, but it's a
$2K, not a $1K list.

After that it's always clamp time.

After clamps, start thinking about a drill press.


Lew

Deborah Kelly wrote:

I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...

Any advice gladly accepted

Deborah


try finding used stuff. ALL new equipment costs a bundle when you are
talking a grand limit. Even neander tools cost an arm and a leg, if
new. (Neander tools are those you can use during a power outage and w/o
batteries, like chisels, planes, gouges...)

Dave

Deborah Kelly wrote:
I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...


Don't know what your interests are, so it's a hard question to answer.
But a decent table saw will eat up over half of that grand. With a good
edge guide and a good (Bosch?) jigsaw you can do without a tablesaw for
a while. A drill press, even a cheap tabletop model, is invaluable. A
random orbit sander (again, I like Bosch) avoids a lot of sore muscles.
A powered screwdriver does too.

Past that, I'd get mostly hand tools to start. A couple of planes, some
decent chisels and rasps, some scrapers.

Shellac and a rag will put a good finish on most projects.

I'm sure I've forgotten a hundred things, but that's what comes to mind.

P.S. I wish I could get my wife to capitalize "Husband" :-).

Of course it depends on what you want to make and the other questions
listed above. Think a lot about that first. Then buy a few books and
magazines about general woodworking and maybe the type of furniture or
whatever you want to make, and spend some time with those (I liked "The
Complete Book of Woodworking", $15 used on Amazon). There's your first
$50. Before you start buying a bunch of tools, I'd reconsider your
plan to start with low-end stuff - I think many people in this
newsgroup would agree it would be wiser (and usually cheaper in the
long run) to start with the best tools you can afford - you'll probably
be happier with them and they'll definitely last longer. Of course
everyone has a budget and you'll hear different things from different
people on what to scrimp on if you must, but here are my opinions on
what to do with your next $950 (depending on what you want to make...)

Dust masks, safety glasses, gloves, hearing protection ($50)
Good jigsaw (Bosch 1590 and progressor wood blades, $150 from
coastaltool.com)
Drill if you don't have one, plus brad-point bits (Start with a cheap
corded drill and good bits, $60)
A bunch of clamps (spring, bar, C, etc. $100+)
A good combination square (Starret etc $70)
Router (PC, Bosch, or Dewalt, $150, plus a router bit set, MLCS 16pc
set to start, $40, then get better bits in whatever styles you use
most)
Steve Knight plane (Smoother or jack, $165)
Screws, glue, sandpaper, finish, wood, etc ($150+++)
Make some stuff and see what you need next.

Next priorities for me might be: Bandsaw (14", Delta, Grizzly, etc.,
$350+, plus bandsaw blade selection from suffolkmachinery.com, $50),
japanese pull-saw, chisels, forstner bits, more clamps, shopvac for
dust collection, cordless drill, etc etc etc. Lee Valley, Rockler, and
Woodcraft seem to be popular general woodworking supply companies on
this newsgroup, and I've had good experiences ordering from all of
them. Shop around also on Amazon, ebay, local classifieds, etc -
prices can vary a lot, and some used tools (both power and hand) are
better than new ones when properly tuned up. I'd think carefully and
get some training and good safety equipment before getting a tablesaw -
they can turn a piece of wood into a missle or a finger into a stump
very quickly.
Alternatively, many people say it's very rewarding to skip the power
tools altogether and start with good-quality handsaws, chisels, hand
planes, scrapers, files, rasps, and the like, and enjoy woodworking and
still listen to the birds. A lot of good furniture was made this way.

Well, sorry for the long-winded and rambling reply. Remember: as a
wise professor of mine once said, a piece of advice is like a butt -
everyone's got one, and most of them stink.
Good luck and have fun,
Andy

"Deborah Kelly" wrote:

I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a
begining wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my
birthday we should spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for
advice on what to buy first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close
to buying everything, so I will probably start out with lower end
stuff...lol...

Any advice gladly accepted

Deborah




Unless you have been doing woodworking of some sort for a while, I'd
recommend looking around your area for woodworking classes. Take a couple
of classes and Then decide whether or not you want to start down the
slippery slope of tool buying. If you take the classes and decide to go
ahead, you already have some experience. Otherwise you may buy a bunch of
tools and be selling them next year at a yard sale.

Books and magazines have also been recommended here. Don't forget the
library. Note that some woodworking shops also rent videos - a good
source of inspiration and knowlege.

Good Luck, and have fun.

Lew Hodgett said:

Deborah Kelly wrote:
I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...

My personal observations are interspersed among Lew's good
recommendations. What you need depends largely on what you intend to
build. You could buy a piece at a time as needed, but it's a real
time waster when you need something you don't have and have to drive
around or wait for the mailman to get your hands on it.

Probably the most function in a shop is cutting.
To cut, you need saws.
My choices were as follows:
Delta contractor's saw complete with a 30" UniFence and a mobile base.
About $800-$900.

Acceptable choice. Maybe shop for a good used one.
Make certain the table is flat and not twisted.

I have built a few nice things with only a good circular saw and a
clamp on straight edge. Don't buy a cheap $150 benchtop saw - it'll
only break your heart. If that is all you can afford, stick to the
circular saw and clamp.

A Bosch Saber saw.

Another fine piece.

A Bosch 6" ROS.

Or Dewalt or PC...

A Porter-Cable or equal router kit.

The venerable 690 series is a good choice. I have the wiz-bang 895PK
model, and I kinda wish I'd gotten a Bosch or PC690 instead. :-\

Make sure whatever you get will use 1/2" bits.
Cheap routers often will not, and 1/4" bits will flex and chatter
under stress and generally wear out quickly.

An 18 VDC drill package kit.

A big maybe on this one.
A corded variable speed drill is cheap, and works fine. No batteries
to fail or discharge as you're finishing up a project.

A cordless screwdriver with clutch is pretty useful, however.
I inherited a Dewalt, but it was made in China.

Add about $300 for good saw blades for the Delta and the Bosch.

As you need them. $150 dollars will get you a few really good blades.
A good Dado is pretty useful. $100-$250 for that alone. Stay away from
wobble dados.

Add about $200 for router bits.

Maybe a bit high for a starter set.
A small assortment of straight and roundovers, plus an ogee or two
will cover a lot of ground. Get specialty bits as you need them.
Buy good quality bits, Whiteside and Amana - even some of the Bosch.
They last much longer and splinter less wood. Please avoid crappy
router bits sets from Vermont and such.

The above puts you in a good to go position with power tools, but it's a
$2K, not a $1K list.

After that it's always clamp time.

You have to have clamps right off the bat. These should be WAY
towards the top of the list. You can NEVER have too many. All glueups
require clamps, sometimes as many as 8-10 - and even more, depending
on the job. Pipe clamps are cheap, but unwieldy. Aluminum bar clamps
are becoming an inexpensive favorite of mine. Bessy K clamps are
great, but expensive. Don't forget about small 6-12" clamps while
you're picking out those 50 inchers. A couple of band (strap) clamps
are quite handy as well.

After clamps, start thinking about a drill press.

I would opt for a drill press even before a cordless drill, unless you
are doing home repairs. Very useful item. You can even use it as a
drum sander, although this stresses the quill bearings. A floor model
is much more useful than a benchtop model in woodworking but both are
useable. No better way to get good, square (to the face) holes.

You will need a sturdy workbench. Building your own is good practice.

You also will need good chisels ranging from 1/4" to 1" Good steel
means less sharpening and better cutting.
Figure on spending $20-$50 for these depending on brand.
I primarily use a set of Marples Blue Chips I got for $20.

And you need a way to keep them sharp - 1/4" glass plate, sandpaper,
and elbow grease works fine.

Don't forget drill bits for the drill. Brad point, HSS lipped drills
are best for woodworking - but not metal. Lee Valley has an excellent
set. Get a starter set in increments of 1/8" - $15-$40.
A set of matching Split Collar Stops are very useful, also.

Countersink bits are useful as well as a chamfering bit.

Forstner bits are also quite handy. This is one area where you could
try a cheaper set and fill in with better units as needed.

A small palm sized block plane. Useful more times than I can count.
I use an old Stanley - although I am now boycotting the company for
bad behavior and Chinese imports that replaced quality US made goods.

Card type Cabinet Scraper. Plus a file and burnishing rod for
sharpening / creating a hook. Around $10.

A Japanese style pull cut saw - for those impossible with power
equipment cuts and dovetails.

Diamond sharpening paddles in ~250 and ~600 grits.
Handy for tweaking the edges of bits and blades of various types.
A set of these will probably run less than $20.

Eventually you will want/need a jointer, planer, and a compound miter
saw. Even though a CMS is often regarded as a home repair tool, I use
mine way more than I thought I would. Try cutting a 45 degree angle
on a 6 foot stick of wood on a tablesaw and you'll see what I mean.

Some prefer hand planes - we call them Neanderthals... ;-)
I have a few of these as well.

A brad nailer is very handy, as is the air compressor needed to power
it. I primarily use a Senco, but I also have a $20 Harbor Freight
model that works OK and came with a rebuild kit.

Finally, a dust collector. You won't believe how much sawdust and
shavings accumulates and drifts through the air while working wood.
While you are at it, a shop air cleaner is a real consideration for
your health and the quality of your finishes.

Sandpaper in incrementing grits, paint brushes, glue, glue spreaders,
clean-up solvents, rags, stains and varnishes, tung oil, linseed oil,
shellac, polyurethane, etc.

That's all I can think of right off hand, and this is from someone who
fairly recently entered the realm of Real Woodworking.

But rest assured, no matter how many tools you own, you will always
need one more. A good rule of thumb is:

New Project, New Tool.

Good Luck!


Greg G.

"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message

Unless you have been doing woodworking of some sort for a while, I'd
recommend looking around your area for woodworking classes. Take a couple
of classes and Then decide whether or not you want to start down the
slippery slope of tool buying. If you take the classes and decide to go
ahead, you already have some experience. Otherwise you may buy a bunch of
tools and be selling them next year at a yard sale.


Best advice thus far, IMO ... along those same lines, and absent a place to
take those kind of classes, pick out a simple project that you want to build
and buy just what you need to complete it as you go along, repeat.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/05

Norm (genuflect) has always said that anyone starting a shop needs two
big power tiools first: a table saw and a joiner/planer. After that
it's a bit broader.

A tip from my experience:

Get two cheap-ish to medium priced cordless drills instead of one good
one. Lot easier picking up one to drill the hole and the other to
drive the screw rather than changing the drill bit/driver each time.
And make sure each unit comes with TWO batteries.

Look for power tools that can double as something else. For instance a
bench-top pillar drill is useful as a drill but get a drum sanding set
and you now have a very serviceable sanding station.

FoggyTown

You are doing this in a most interesting way. I am sure that most of us
just started somehow and never really made a list of what was needed. If
you are totally new to woodworking, the best investment may be in a good
woodworking course. This will provide a little experience with some really
good tools and may help you decide which of the many paths to woodworking
addiction you choose to follow. If you are in the Boston area, I cannot
recommend The North Bennet St. School strongly enough. They have a webpage.
I took several courses there after 40 yrs of woodworking and wished I had
started out with the course. In a way, woodworking is all about learning
how to do things; it is much more efficient in a good class than alone at
home. Books have their place but watching a good instructor is much more
illuminating. Good luck and I hope you enjoy the process.
Dave

lol that is why I'm looking at lower end stuff...lol... I don't know if I
can find anything used out here this is a small town...lol

Dedorah

Get used equipment. Sure it takes time, but with patience you can get
some very good equipment for around 1/2 the price of new. Makes a big
difference in your budget.

I picked up a 1955 vintage Unisaw for $350 that with a little bondo, a
coat of paint and some new belts will be great. Though I'm planning
about getting her a biesemeyer fence for Xmas so I guess she's not that
cheap But even with the new fence and some sweat, that unisaw will
have cost me about as much as a high end contractor's saw and IMO I got
much more for my money.

Delta contractor's saw complete with a 30" UniFence and a mobile base.
About $800-$900.

I did exactly this when I started (minus the mobile base) for exactly
that much money. I didn't know about grizzly at the time. Now, I wish
I had gone with either the grizzly cabinet saw for the same money, or a
smaller griz contractor's saw for a lot less money. The detla saw has
been great, but I think better values are out there.

brian

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:03:52 -0600, "Deborah Kelly"
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a begining
wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we should
spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what to buy
first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying everything, so I
will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...

Any advice gladly accepted

Deborah



handheld stuff.
get a drill, a jigsaw, a circular saw, measuring tools, chisels and
sharpening stuff... oops, the thousand is gone...

Different opinion from here. Bought a benchtop Delta drill press and
have to shim the table in every direction for ANY cut requiring 90°!
It's due for replacement like 9 years ago! Cheap is NOPT the primary
criterion!


On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:11:04 -0800, Larry Blanchard
wrote:

A drill press, even a cheap tabletop model, is invaluable.

I think it's worth pointing out that a tablesaw in the first couple
purchases isn't required at all.

Buy a good quality bandsaw, and a selection of blades from suffolk for
say 500 total. You then don't need a jig saw, or a table saw for a
while. Sure the table saw might do a better job, but for way more
money, and they are only really good at one thing.

Just my two cents

Andrew

He didn't say it was ideal, he said it was invaluable!

I use my drill press for both metal and wood, so quality was
essential for me. But even a cheap drill press is more accurate
than hand drilling most of the time.

nospambob wrote:
Different opinion from here. Bought a benchtop Delta drill press and
have to shim the table in every direction for ANY cut requiring 90°!
It's due for replacement like 9 years ago! Cheap is NOPT the primary
criterion!


On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:11:04 -0800, Larry Blanchard
wrote:


A drill press, even a cheap tabletop model, is invaluable.

While all of the above suggestions are right on for power tools, they
all add up to many thousand dollars. Consider starting with the school
if available, and then going to hand tools to get started. I have some
power tools in Montana, but only hand tools in Illinois, and it works.
You can start with a good square, X-acto knife, block plane and one
larger plane, 3-4 chisels, a good back saw, steel rule, a scraper, and
some sandpaper. You will also need some sharpening stones and a guide
to sharpen planes and chisels. Maybe a regular crosscut saw too. Oh...
as many clamps as you can get.

With these, and the use of some books, you can plane boards square,
make dovetail joints, glue boards together to make wider boards, and
build boxes, bookcases, shelves, and a lot more.

Then, as your budget regains it's health, add one power tool at a time.
You may already have an electric drill or a skill saw, and maybe just
need some good bits and a carbide saw blade. A cheap belt sander from
Home Depot will hide a lot of mistakes! In the mean time, you will
have developed some skills in woodworking, and will start to get an
idea of what power tool will let you progress to the next level.

I hope this helps a little!

regards,

Rich.....

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:26:22 -0800, Tattooed and Dusty wrote:

I think it's worth pointing out that a tablesaw in the first couple
purchases isn't required at all.

Buy a good quality bandsaw, and a selection of blades from suffolk for
say 500 total. You then don't need a jig saw, or a table saw for a
while. Sure the table saw might do a better job, but for way more
money, and they are only really good at one thing.

Just my two cents

Andrew

Now that I've filled the garage (i.e. shop) with tools
I think I agree with Andrew. If I was starting over
I'd have a band saw, circular saw, and router (with table).
I'd then fill in with good (used?) hand tools. You should
be able to find used tools if you keep looking.

When I started out as a teen I had a jigsaw, router, and
drill. Along with some hand tools my grand dad gave me.
I was able to build some serviceable furniture. Start
slow and easy. Wait to buy those expensive tools until
you understand (classes?) their use. And don't buy cheap.

D. G. Adams

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:55:51 -0600, Deborah Kelly wrote:

lol that is why I'm looking at lower end stuff...lol... I don't know if I
can find anything used out here this is a small town...lol

Dedorah

I understand your situation, I was there 20 years ago.
One of my big mistakes was to buy cheap tools. If you
are serious, you will burn a lot of cash on junk that
will have to be replaced. If we had an idea of what
type of woodworking you would like to do we could give
you better advice, but I'd still say don't buy junky tools.
Used is ok, junk is not.

Note that you can do some pretty amazing stuff with just
a few hundred dollars in hand tools and a little patience.

D. G. Adams

Deborah Kelly wrote:

I was wondering if anyone can give me advice for what I need for a
begining wood working shop. My Husband had desided that for my birthday we
should spend about $1000 to start a shop. I am looking for advice on what
to buy first, obvously $1000 is not going to come close to buying
everything, so I will probably start out with lower end stuff...lol...

Any advice gladly accepted

Deborah

Deborah,

If you're looking for a power tool, I'd recommend a Radial Arm Saw. The
low-end new Deltas will eat up nearly all of the $1000, but you'll have
something that does the work of quite a few power tools. Or, if you don't
mind a fixer-upper, find a used DeWalt Radial Arm Saw from the 1950's at an
estate sale for an even better saw. It'll do all sorts of cross-cuts, rip
cuts, jointing, etc... I no longer use my (admittedly cheap) table saw or
my under-sized jointer.

But buy a book on how to use it, too. It'll teach you the tricks and how
not to lose a body part or two.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

"foggytown" wrote:

Norm (genuflect) has always said that anyone starting a shop needs two
big power tiools first: a table saw and a joiner/planer. After that
it's a bit broader.

A tip from my experience:

Get two cheap-ish to medium priced cordless drills instead of one good
one. Lot easier picking up one to drill the hole and the other to
drive the screw rather than changing the drill bit/driver each time.
And make sure each unit comes with TWO batteries.

Or buy the best drill you can afford and spend $30 or so on a drill/driver
set (such as DW2730) where you just extract and flip - no chucking.

Here's my experience, for what it's worth.

I've been doing "serious" ww for about 15 or so years, building furniture
and such, along with numerous other small projects that required wood as the
prime material. I slowly accumulated tools, sometimes not so slowly, but
never had room for a table saw until we got our new house this summer. It's
the big ticket item, both in cost and in space. It's great. I love it. I
might even say, "I don't know how I ever got along without it", but I know
how I got along. I managed by getting whoever I bought sheet stock from to
cut it for me into bitesize pieces that I could bring home. A Bosch jigsaw
is, in my humble opinion, the single most useful power tool you can buy for
cutting. With a good setup and clamps and straight guides, you can do a good
portion of what you can do on a table saw.
A drill press is another really invaluable tool. And a RO sander. A router
opens up a whole new world of ways to shape wood, but you CAN live without
one.
Beyond that, you need a minimal collection of good hand tools, such as a #4
plane, chisels, handsaws, maybe a dowelling jig, marking and measuring
tools, good quality drill bits (make all the difference in the world).
You can do a lot with a little, and work your way up as you go along.
--
Bob

Travel and Astronomy Photos
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bomo

lol I did tell serval people what I was planning on doing yesterday but
silly me just hit the reply button and not the reply to group button (hmmm
wonder where they sell brains these days...lol)

first off I'm going to build my workbench, after that loads of bookcases for
all the books we have (we are turning the upstairs into a library its a
20x30 ft room). after that I might try some funiture, and ofcourse toys (I
made my daughter a really cute bird pull toy for er first birthday this year
with the jigsaw and a hole saw bit on the drill, and I have to say when
working with hardwood, it was out of wild cherry, having a wood blade
expecially a sharp one is so much better then a metal blade...lmao, Wish I
had at lest a planer for that because I was working with ruff cut wood took
for ever to sand it

After reading all the posts I think I'm going to spend most my money on a
halfway decant table saw, $600-800 range and a butt load of clamps and wood
for the workbench. (I think Hubby desided to do my birthday presant this way
is so in the future he can just buy something for the shop for me and not
have to figure out what I like...lmao)

And after much inner debating I have locked my inner cheapskate up and buy
atlest midrange EQ...lol

Deborah

"dgadams" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:55:51 -0600, Deborah Kelly wrote:

lol that is why I'm looking at lower end stuff...lol... I don't know if I
can find anything used out here this is a small town...lol

Dedorah

I understand your situation, I was there 20 years ago.
One of my big mistakes was to buy cheap tools. If you
are serious, you will burn a lot of cash on junk that
will have to be replaced. If we had an idea of what
type of woodworking you would like to do we could give
you better advice, but I'd still say don't buy junky tools.
Used is ok, junk is not.

Note that you can do some pretty amazing stuff with just
a few hundred dollars in hand tools and a little patience.

D. G. Adams

I have to say you guys have all been great with responding to my message and
I would like to thank you all....I tryed to respond to a lot of message but
sence my little natives are getting restless....lol....I don't have the
time...lol...

I think Norm has the right idea for me but with a $1000 it is now iffy in my
mind if I can get both a table say and planner (planners are sooooooo neat I
just love them, taking an old weatered board and you plane it and it looks
so pretty and smooth....)

Today I happened to hit the reply group button so you all should get the
message about what I am planning on building I forgot that what you are
planning to do is a big part of what tools you get...lol and sence I knew
what I wanted to do...sometimes forget that people arn't mind readers...lol

I'm going to start looking for used EQ so I guess that means taking the bull
by the horns and going into pawn shops and what not (even though the whole
time I'm in one I'll be saying 'Sean don't touch that' and 'Emily no you
can't get down' lmao

oh and I never told you guys the two spaces I'm thinking about turning into
my workshop. my garage (which the door is to short for my van to fit in) is
10x20 with a concrete floor, Then I have the big space in the barn which is
24x24 with a 11x11 corner pened off (which I thought would make a wonderful
kids 'workshop' complete witha gate...lol) but it has a dirt floor (thinking
maybe next year we will get a 4 inch slab layed in there)

Deborah

After reading all the posts I think I'm going to spend most my money on a
halfway decant table saw, $600-800 range and a butt load of clamps and wood
for the workbench. (I think Hubby desided to do my birthday presant this way
is so in the future he can just buy something for the shop for me and not
have to figure out what I like...lmao)

Agree with getting decent table saw.

You might want to consider this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=507846


Don't forget some small items like a tape measure, square.

l;ol I was just telling Hubby today on the phone that we needed a new tape
measure since our old one had that accedent....lol...

and we just got a square when we had to replace some window glass last
month....lol.... we have a little bit of hand tools so...

It is just so much to think about...lol

Deborah

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
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After reading all the posts I think I'm going to spend most my money on a
halfway decant table saw, $600-800 range and a butt load of clamps and
wood
for the workbench. (I think Hubby desided to do my birthday presant this
way
is so in the future he can just buy something for the shop for me and not
have to figure out what I like...lmao)

Agree with getting decent table saw.

You might want to consider this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=507846


Don't forget some small items like a tape measure, square.

Deborah,

with a $1000 it is now iffy in my mind if I can
get both a table saw and planer

You should be able to pick up a decent "contractor" tablesaw (or a high end
portable) for around $500, a decent portable planer for around $200, and
still have $200 left over for a power miter saw..

My old tablesaw is smaller and junkier than even a contractor saw, and it
has served me well for over 14 years. I've wanted to upgrade many times,
but it's hard to justify the cost when mine still works well (and doesn't
take the space the newer saws would).

oh and I never told you guys the two spaces I'm thinking about turning
into my workshop. my garage (which the door is to short for my van to
fit in) is 10x20 with a concrete floor, Then I have the big space in
the barn which is 24x24 with a 11x11 corner pened off (which I thought
would make a wonderful kids 'workshop' complete witha gate...lol) but
it has a dirt floor (thinking maybe next year we will get a 4 inch
slab layed in there)

Until we built our garage a few years ago, I did all of my woodworking out
of a small 8x12 shed. I'd pull the tablesaw out in the yard, build my
projects on tarps, and put everything away at the end of the day. A lot
of work, and it restricts you to dry days, but it's certainly possible...

Anthony

lol...I'm not going to be portering around anything....lol...Right now I
need stationary I'm to darn weak to be dragging table saws
around....lol...(might have to get that home gym soon...lol)

A power miter saw is on the list of things I need though, Last place we
lived the land lord had a laser guided one new in the box that we got to
use, along with his portable planer....hehehe invented projects just so I
could use them...lol

Deborah

"HerHusband" wrote in message
...
Deborah,

with a $1000 it is now iffy in my mind if I can
get both a table saw and planer

You should be able to pick up a decent "contractor" tablesaw (or a high
end
portable) for around $500, a decent portable planer for around $200, and
still have $200 left over for a power miter saw..

My old tablesaw is smaller and junkier than even a contractor saw, and it
has served me well for over 14 years. I've wanted to upgrade many times,
but it's hard to justify the cost when mine still works well (and doesn't
take the space the newer saws would).

oh and I never told you guys the two spaces I'm thinking about turning
into my workshop. my garage (which the door is to short for my van to
fit in) is 10x20 with a concrete floor, Then I have the big space in
the barn which is 24x24 with a 11x11 corner pened off (which I thought
would make a wonderful kids 'workshop' complete witha gate...lol) but
it has a dirt floor (thinking maybe next year we will get a 4 inch
slab layed in there)

Until we built our garage a few years ago, I did all of my woodworking out
of a small 8x12 shed. I'd pull the tablesaw out in the yard, build my
projects on tarps, and put everything away at the end of the day. A lot
of work, and it restricts you to dry days, but it's certainly possible...

Anthony

HerHusband wrote:

Deborah,


with a $1000 it is now iffy in my mind if I can
get both a table saw and planer


You should be able to pick up a decent "contractor" tablesaw (or a high end
portable) for around $500, a decent portable planer for around $200, and
still have $200 left over for a power miter saw..

My old tablesaw is smaller and junkier than even a contractor saw, and it
has served me well for over 14 years. I've wanted to upgrade many times,
but it's hard to justify the cost when mine still works well (and doesn't
take the space the newer saws would).


oh and I never told you guys the two spaces I'm thinking about turning
into my workshop. my garage (which the door is to short for my van to
fit in) is 10x20 with a concrete floor, Then I have the big space in
the barn which is 24x24 with a 11x11 corner pened off (which I thought
would make a wonderful kids 'workshop' complete witha gate...lol) but
it has a dirt floor (thinking maybe next year we will get a 4 inch
slab layed in there)


Until we built our garage a few years ago, I did all of my woodworking out
of a small 8x12 shed. I'd pull the tablesaw out in the yard, build my
projects on tarps, and put everything away at the end of the day. A lot
of work, and it restricts you to dry days, but it's certainly possible...

Anthony

I do projects in my basement and so far I have had to remove the steps
on the back porch to get some cabinets out. And it is a pain is the
butt to get plywood down stairs, but it can be done.

The room I am working in is 16 X 16. and loaded with, well allot of
junk. I've only begun the journey into making it a real workshop, since
I doubt that we would ever move out of the city, which I hate.

HerHusband wrote:

Until we built our garage a few years ago, I did all of my woodworking out
of a small 8x12 shed. I'd pull the tablesaw out in the yard, build my
projects on tarps, and put everything away at the end of the day. A lot
of work, and it restricts you to dry days, but it's certainly possible...


I'm working in a 11x13 (interior - 12x14 exterior) shed. I don't have
room for a bandsaw or a sharpening station, but I have a tablesaw,
jointer, drill press, stationary belt sander, and workbench plus a bunch
of portable power tools (although at my age, calling a 60 pound planer
portable is pushing it a wee bit) and hand tools.

I've never had to maove anything outside, but when ripping long stock I
do have to open the doors.

Deborah,

lol...I'm not going to be portering around anything....lol...Right now
I need stationary I'm to darn weak to be dragging table saws
around....lol...(might have to get that home gym soon...lol)

Many of the "portable" saws come with roller stands to make them easy to move
and store. But, you could also build a wheeled cart for the saw, providing a
base that includes storage space and expands the support area. With a small
workshop, this lets you move the saw out of the way easily when you're not
using it.

My saw is "stationary" but I still end up dragging it around to move it out
of the way when it's not being used...

Anthony

lol big items I just tend to leave wherever they are and move everything
around them. hopefully we will get the EQ one weekend when Hubby is home and
he can organize the shop...lol.. I would say se he could move it all around
but I know thats not going to happen...lol...
Besides I'm a procrasanater and if I have to get the saw out to use it....
lol

Deborah

"HerHusband" wrote in message
...
Deborah,

lol...I'm not going to be portering around anything....lol...Right now
I need stationary I'm to darn weak to be dragging table saws
around....lol...(might have to get that home gym soon...lol)

Many of the "portable" saws come with roller stands to make them easy to
move
and store. But, you could also build a wheeled cart for the saw, providing
a
base that includes storage space and expands the support area. With a
small
workshop, this lets you move the saw out of the way easily when you're not
using it.

My saw is "stationary" but I still end up dragging it around to move it
out
of the way when it's not being used...

Anthony

Larry,

I'm working in a 11x13 (interior - 12x14 exterior) shed. I don't have
room for a bandsaw or a sharpening station, but I have a tablesaw,
jointer, drill press, stationary belt sander, and workbench plus a
bunch of portable power tools (although at my age, calling a 60 pound
planer portable is pushing it a wee bit) and hand tools.
I've never had to move anything outside, but when ripping long stock
I do have to open the doors.

Believe me, my 8x12 shed was packed to the rafters with "stuff". I
couldn't walk in there, let alone do any woodworking. There was only one
door, and everything had to go in and out in a specific order.

As for using the tablesaw, I can't see ripping a sheet of plywood with
anything less than 20' or so. 8 feet in front of the saw, 8 feet behind
the saw, 3 feet for the saw itself, and some room for me.

Of course, if the shed has doors on two sides, it only needs to be big
enough for the tablesaw. Maybe 4'?

Anthony

And how much does a single cut cost at the lumber yard?
Das whut I doo... cuz day offah da service...

--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/

"HerHusband" wrote in message
...
Larry,

I'm working in a 11x13 (interior - 12x14 exterior) shed. I don't have
room for a bandsaw or a sharpening station, but I have a tablesaw,
jointer, drill press, stationary belt sander, and workbench plus a
bunch of portable power tools (although at my age, calling a 60 pound
planer portable is pushing it a wee bit) and hand tools.
I've never had to move anything outside, but when ripping long stock
I do have to open the doors.

Believe me, my 8x12 shed was packed to the rafters with "stuff". I
couldn't walk in there, let alone do any woodworking. There was only one
door, and everything had to go in and out in a specific order.

As for using the tablesaw, I can't see ripping a sheet of plywood with
anything less than 20' or so. 8 feet in front of the saw, 8 feet behind
the saw, 3 feet for the saw itself, and some room for me.

Of course, if the shed has doors on two sides, it only needs to be big
enough for the tablesaw. Maybe 4'?

Anthony

my Hubby was saying something like that to me but I think it was that I want
atlest 10 ft on either side of the table saw...lol...

"AAvK" wrote in message
news:OSwaf.4781$UF4.2706@fed1read02...

And how much does a single cut cost at the lumber yard?
Das whut I doo... cuz day offah da service...

--
Alex - "newbie_neander" woodworker
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/


Awww but whats the fun in that? lol

Deborah