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Resin that comes from pine
I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin
that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this |
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He nailed it; Shellac.
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. Or, to paraphrase my grandpa, get used to the smell of pine! (or pine pitch) |
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Australopithecus scobis wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, javea5 wrote: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this Coat of dewaxed shellac. Not always. At least one thing I built of pine has the pitch come through several coats of shellac. It came from a batch of pine that is *extremely* pitchy. Sometimes you just gotta put it in the burn bin ..... PK |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. |
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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. -- -Mike- |
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Mike Marlow wrote:
"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. but, but, but, Mike? Isn't pine SOFT? Is that a desirable trait for "long lasting stuff"? Dave |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:04:03 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Mike Marlow" quickly quoth: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Can if I want. /neener Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. Yeah, remember JOAT's pine cone turkey URL last year? Gawdjus! |
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"David" wrote in message ... Mike Marlow wrote: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. but, but, but, Mike? Isn't pine SOFT? Is that a desirable trait for "long lasting stuff"? Dave Ummmmmm... yup - but look around, you'll see tons of that soft stuff that's lasted 100 years. I'm not suggesting it's the same as a nice hardwood, but it sure shouldn't take the knock it gets. -- -Mike- |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:04:03 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Mike Marlow" quickly quoth: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Can if I want. /neener Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. Yeah, remember JOAT's pine cone turkey URL last year? Gawdjus! Groan... and I'd almost forgotten until you had to remind us. Curses on you Larry. -- -Mike- |
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David wrote:
Mike Marlow wrote: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. but, but, but, Mike? Isn't pine SOFT? Is that a desirable trait for "long lasting stuff"? Dave Southern Yellow Pine is pretty darn hard and dense. Some pine is soft and some pine is hard. There are plenty of hardwoods that are softer than SYP. I am not sure if SYP is technically a species or if Longleaf Pine and Loblolly Pine are some of the heavy and hard. Jim B. |
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"Paul Kierstead" wrote in message ups.com... Australopithecus scobis wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, javea5 wrote: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this Coat of dewaxed shellac. Not always. At least one thing I built of pine has the pitch come through several coats of shellac. It came from a batch of pine that is *extremely* pitchy. Sometimes you just gotta put it in the burn bin .... PK Did you stain or paint the wardrobe? How long ago did you apply the finish? I try to avoid areas where pine has a depression with pitch sitting right in it. But I have been able to remove the resin with turps and then fill depression with wood filler and that is that. If you want to stain the pine, you have to pick your pieces very carefully. The knots have to be attached to the surrounding wood entirely, then you can even stain the piece you are working on and then seal with shellac - more than one coat, say 3 or 4. Then apply whatever finish you want. I have pine pieces done like this where the knots are 2x4" ovals and the finish is intact after 30 years. If a pine knot drops out and you still insist on staining then clean up the area with turps, get rid of any remaining brown areas and patch with wood filler. When the filler is completely dry and sanded level you can use acrylic paint to paint wood grain onto the wood filler, and finish as desired. If you are painting the wardrobe you still have to clean up any resin you see and any area you think will leak resin with turps and then shellac the area with 3-4 coats and then paint as you wish. Some of the guys said they used wood filler to make a raised area over the shellac - adding a layer of wood filler - and then sanding the "hill" almost flat. I can't make that look good but I thought I'd mention it. Kilz should do a good job of sealing up pine knots. I'd clean with turps carefully first and then use the oil based Kilz and use a couple or three coats, too. Josie |
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Pine does show it's age but not as bad as you might believe. I have a pine
end table and coffee table that my father built in 1975. We lived in Japan then. It has been shipped to eastern Washington, used there for a few years, put into a storage unit for a number of years, brought out and trucked to western Washington were it is now. Still looks pretty good, all things considered. "David" wrote in message ... but, but, but, Mike? Isn't pine SOFT? Is that a desirable trait for "long lasting stuff"? Dave |
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David wrote:
Mike Marlow wrote: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: On 16 Sep 2005 06:25:37 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, quickly quoth: I recently built a Pine wardrobe but i am plagued by the sticky resin that is exuding from the knots ,what should I do to stop this This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. but, but, but, Mike? Isn't pine SOFT? Is that a desirable trait for "long lasting stuff"? Dave Yeah it can be soft, depend on the species of pine. But how else to you get that battered antique look. It's a real bitch beating the hell out of some hardwoods! |
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David wrote:
but, but, but, Mike? Isn't pine SOFT? Is that a desirable trait for "long lasting stuff"? Long before I ever did any woodworking, we bought a Bennington Pine dining room set in 1976. Added the kitchen table and chairs in 1981. Sure, it has a few marks from daily use, but is still in great shape. Quality furniture that is well made. We got the Admiral's chairs too. Sort of like the popular Captains chairs, only larger and more comfortable. I suspect this can last another 100 years or more. Don't ever let anyone tell you that pine is cheap or not a good material. I've made plenty of stuff from it too. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message Larry Jaques wrote: This one is TOO easy! The answer is: Don't use pine. You don't have to be that inclusive. Just don't use pine with pitch pockets. I've used pine for lots of stuff, never had any pitch problems. Agreed. The hardwood only snobs look down their noses at pine, but a lot of very nice furniture has been build out of pine. If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, one can turn out some beautiful and very long lasting stuff out of pine. -- -Mike- I'm pleased with my latest pine project: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thesam.../ph//my_photos Max |
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As you should be. Nice.
"Max" wrote in message t... I'm pleased with my latest pine project: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/thesam.../ph//my_photos Max |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:04:03 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, There certainly is pine that's not junk, but most of the pine that's available today is barely construction grade, not furniture grade. And most of it isn't pine ayway, but hemlock or spruce (in the UK at least). I'd select the boards more carefully. I wouldn't necessarily throw resiny pine out as firewood, but I wouldn't use it for wardrobes either. |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:04:03 -0400, "Mike Marlow" wrote: If one can get over the false notion that pine is junk, There certainly is pine that's not junk, but most of the pine that's available today is barely construction grade, not furniture grade. And most of it isn't pine ayway, but hemlock or spruce (in the UK at least). I'd select the boards more carefully. I wouldn't necessarily throw resiny pine out as firewood, but I wouldn't use it for wardrobes either. Whoa! You can't say most of the pine available is junk and then say most of it isn't pine. Uhh. Wait a minute, you just did. Spend at least 5 seconds thinking about what you said. That's in the category o. "Taste it again for the first time." Maybe most pine available today is junk, but it is all pine. Or maybe most wood sold as pine is not pine (not likely true). |
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In article
, George E. Cawthon wrote: Maybe most pine available today is junk, but it is all pine. Or maybe most wood sold as pine is not pine (not likely true). If you're talking about construction/fencing grade, much of it here in Canada is sold a "SPF", which stands for "Spruce/Pine/Fir". djb -- Life. Nature's way of keeping meat fresh. -- Dr. Who |
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Dave Balderstone wrote:
In article , George E. Cawthon wrote: Maybe most pine available today is junk, but it is all pine. Or maybe most wood sold as pine is not pine (not likely true). If you're talking about construction/fencing grade, much of it here in Canada is sold a "SPF", which stands for "Spruce/Pine/Fir". djb The OP wasn't, at least I hope he wasn't making a pine wardrobe out of fencing or construction grade wood, the former being awful and the latter not normally seen so it doesn't matter what it looks like or what it is since the strength is the only thing that matters. SPF, means they it is a mix and they don't care what it looks like and they probably don't even know what the species are. Doesn't matter tho, he said pine, so I assume he meant pine. What kind of pine do people buy to make a wardrobe? |
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"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message tone.ca... In article , George E. Cawthon wrote: Maybe most pine available today is junk, but it is all pine. Or maybe most wood sold as pine is not pine (not likely true). If you're talking about construction/fencing grade, much of it here in Canada is sold a "SPF", which stands for "Spruce/Pine/Fir". Pine also comes graded, all one species, almost like hardwood. Of course you have to pay for the service. "B" select eastern white is a glory to work with, but it's more expensive than maple, though it's not even the highest appearance grade. Difference is in knowing first, then shopping. |
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George E. Cawthon wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:04:03 -0400, "Mike Marlow" ... There certainly is pine that's not junk, but most of the pine that's available today is barely construction grade, not furniture grade. And most of it isn't pine ayway, but hemlock or spruce (in the UK at least). ... Or maybe most wood sold as pine is not pine (not likely true). I think that's what he meant. Sort of like the 'oak' furniture K-Mart sells that is made out of rubber wood. -- FF |
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