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Forrest Woodworker II question
I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I
ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron |
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I have the WWII, thin kerf (3/32") on my Delta contractor saw, and it works
fine. In fact, I think the thin kerf blade is recommended for contractors saws, since it requires less power than the 1/8" blade. I have used it exclusively for 3 years and am completely happy with it. Paul "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120067182.0321394b9f19cade8de67101dbf96dbf@t eranews... I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:45:56 -0400, "Ron Stitt"
wrote: I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron You can't make a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade. A 3/32" also "uses" more wood when it cuts. If these two items are not really downsides for your application, the 3/32" blade might be better than the thinner blade as it has less deflection. Of these two, I'd prefer the thicker blade for most of my applications. |
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Phisherman wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:45:56 -0400, "Ron Stitt" wrote: I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron You can't make a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade. A 3/32" also "uses" more wood when it cuts. If these two items are not really downsides for your application, the 3/32" blade might be better than the thinner blade as it has less deflection. Of these two, I'd prefer the thicker blade for most of my applications. Forgive my ignorance, but how does a 3/32" blade "use" more wood than an 1/8" blade??? |
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on 6/29/2005 1:35 PM Phisherman said the following:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:45:56 -0400, "Ron Stitt" wrote: I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron You can't make a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade. A 3/32" also "uses" more wood when it cuts. If these two items are not really downsides for your application, the 3/32" blade might be better than the thinner blade as it has less deflection. Of these two, I'd prefer the thicker blade for most of my applications. Really? A 3/32" blade "uses" more wood than a 1/8th" (a/k/a 4/32")blade? It would really take a keen eye and well set stop block, fence, etc. but I think you just might be able to do a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade in two passes with a very minor adjustment of said stop block or fence.g Otherwise, I agree totally with what you said. As the other poster mentioned though, with the contractor saw he MIGHT be a bit better off with the 3/32" thin kerf blade than the standard 1/8" if he's cutting thicker hardwoods. |
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Phisherman wrote:
You can't make a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade. A 3/32" also "uses" more wood when it cuts. If these two items are not really downsides for your application, the 3/32" blade might be better than the thinner blade as it has less deflection. 1/8" is (4) 32nds Barry |
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Phisherman wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:45:56 -0400, "Ron Stitt" wrote: I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron You can't make a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade. A 3/32" also "uses" more wood when it cuts. If these two items are not really downsides for your application, the 3/32" blade might be better than the thinner blade as it has less deflection. Of these two, I'd prefer the thicker blade for most of my applications. Last time I looked at a tape measure, 3/32" was SMALLER than 1/8". Dave |
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"Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120067182.0321394b9f19cade8de67101dbf96dbf@t eranews... I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron The thin kerfs save a lot of wood. You can probably save enough in a couple of years to pay your kid's college education. Woodlands will be overgrowing from the savings on trees. Seriously, the first blade I bought was a thin kerf Freud Diablo. Newbie that I was, I used it for probably two years before I realized it was a thin kerf versus a full kerf. There is only one downside that I'm aware of, that is cross cutting using a miter with a scale on the stop. The right side of the blade is up against the arbor flange and the distance to the fence is the same regardless of blade. I use an Accu Miter that has a stop and it was set up to use a full kerf blade. When I change to the thin kerf, it is off by 1/32". Big deal? Not if I remember, or not if the dimension is not critical. Sometimes the length is not critical as long as all four legs are the same. |
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Just a follow up. It wasn't Amazon's fault. I looked at the box a little
closer....it was mis-labeled from Forrest. I called Forrest and talked to one of their teckies. Seems it cuts a little easier, especially for ripping which is what I do a lot of. I have a RAS for most of my crosscutting. I have about decided to keep the blade. They said if I sent it back they would exchange it, didn't offer to pay for the shipping back though. Ron "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message newsnDwe.16503$fM6.6382@trndny04... "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120067182.0321394b9f19cade8de67101dbf96dbf@t eranews... I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron The thin kerfs save a lot of wood. You can probably save enough in a couple of years to pay your kid's college education. Woodlands will be overgrowing from the savings on trees. Seriously, the first blade I bought was a thin kerf Freud Diablo. Newbie that I was, I used it for probably two years before I realized it was a thin kerf versus a full kerf. There is only one downside that I'm aware of, that is cross cutting using a miter with a scale on the stop. The right side of the blade is up against the arbor flange and the distance to the fence is the same regardless of blade. I use an Accu Miter that has a stop and it was set up to use a full kerf blade. When I change to the thin kerf, it is off by 1/32". Big deal? Not if I remember, or not if the dimension is not critical. Sometimes the length is not critical as long as all four legs are the same. |
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You may consider buying the stiffner - Forrest recommends it with the thin
kerf blades. "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120082366.66bf293500aef54138eb09fe7b586625@t eranews... Just a follow up. It wasn't Amazon's fault. I looked at the box a little closer....it was mis-labeled from Forrest. I called Forrest and talked to one of their teckies. Seems it cuts a little easier, especially for ripping which is what I do a lot of. I have a RAS for most of my crosscutting. I have about decided to keep the blade. They said if I sent it back they would exchange it, didn't offer to pay for the shipping back though. Ron "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message newsnDwe.16503$fM6.6382@trndny04... "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120067182.0321394b9f19cade8de67101dbf96dbf@t eranews... I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron The thin kerfs save a lot of wood. You can probably save enough in a couple of years to pay your kid's college education. Woodlands will be overgrowing from the savings on trees. Seriously, the first blade I bought was a thin kerf Freud Diablo. Newbie that I was, I used it for probably two years before I realized it was a thin kerf versus a full kerf. There is only one downside that I'm aware of, that is cross cutting using a miter with a scale on the stop. The right side of the blade is up against the arbor flange and the distance to the fence is the same regardless of blade. I use an Accu Miter that has a stop and it was set up to use a full kerf blade. When I change to the thin kerf, it is off by 1/32". Big deal? Not if I remember, or not if the dimension is not critical. Sometimes the length is not critical as long as all four legs are the same. |
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And I'm not talking Viagra!!!
Knew some of the wreckies were going to go there..... "D Steck" wrote in message ... You may consider buying the stiffner - Forrest recommends it with the thin kerf blades. "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120082366.66bf293500aef54138eb09fe7b586625@t eranews... Just a follow up. It wasn't Amazon's fault. I looked at the box a little closer....it was mis-labeled from Forrest. I called Forrest and talked to one of their teckies. Seems it cuts a little easier, especially for ripping which is what I do a lot of. I have a RAS for most of my crosscutting. I have about decided to keep the blade. They said if I sent it back they would exchange it, didn't offer to pay for the shipping back though. Ron "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message newsnDwe.16503$fM6.6382@trndny04... "Ron Stitt" wrote in message news:1120067182.0321394b9f19cade8de67101dbf96dbf@t eranews... I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron The thin kerfs save a lot of wood. You can probably save enough in a couple of years to pay your kid's college education. Woodlands will be overgrowing from the savings on trees. Seriously, the first blade I bought was a thin kerf Freud Diablo. Newbie that I was, I used it for probably two years before I realized it was a thin kerf versus a full kerf. There is only one downside that I'm aware of, that is cross cutting using a miter with a scale on the stop. The right side of the blade is up against the arbor flange and the distance to the fence is the same regardless of blade. I use an Accu Miter that has a stop and it was set up to use a full kerf blade. When I change to the thin kerf, it is off by 1/32". Big deal? Not if I remember, or not if the dimension is not critical. Sometimes the length is not critical as long as all four legs are the same. |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:41:11 GMT, Brian Kerr
wrote: Phisherman wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:45:56 -0400, "Ron Stitt" wrote: I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron You can't make a 1/8" groove with the 3/32" blade. A 3/32" also "uses" more wood when it cuts. If these two items are not really downsides for your application, the 3/32" blade might be better than the thinner blade as it has less deflection. Of these two, I'd prefer the thicker blade for most of my applications. Forgive my ignorance, but how does a 3/32" blade "use" more wood than an 1/8" blade??? Oops, my mistake! I was tired when I posted this--I transposed the 3/32 and 1/8" !!! |
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"Ron Stitt" wrote in message it was mis-labeled from Forrest. They said if I sent it back they would exchange it, didn't offer to pay for the shipping back though. Mistakes happen, but fix them. Free. They should read Lee Valley's warranty. |
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"Phisherman" wrote in message Oops, my mistake! I was tired when I posted this--I transposed the 3/32 and 1/8" !!! Sort of like when I cut pieces 10 9/16" long and they come out to the little line on the OTHER side of the half inch mark? |
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"Phisherman" wrote in message Oops, my mistake! I was tired when I posted this--I transposed the 3/32 and 1/8" !!! LOL - just wish it was as easy to fix the cutting of one opposing side of a drawer 1/2" shorter than the other, AND not even noticing it until you go to mount the bottom, as it is to fix digital bits. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 5/14/05 |
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"B a r r y" wrote in message ... 1/8" is (4) 32nds. What kind of calculator did you use to arrive at that? I need to know where to get them. SH - the "I'm sorry I couldn't resist" woodworker |
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Ron Stitt wrote:
I ordered a WWII TS blade from Amazon and received it today. Only problem, I ordered !/8" and they sent a 3/32" instead! What is the down side of keeping this blade vs. sending it back and getting the one I ordered? I will use it on a Delta contractor saw. Thanks Ron I have both but always have the 1/8 in the saw unless I am doing lots of rips from an unmeasured piece of lumber or if the 1/8 is in for sharpening. Niether of these are really the right choice for xcutting. Benefits of the 1/8 in my opinion a easier to calculate multiple cuts when working with a 1/8 kerf doesn't need a stiffener gives a cleaner cut face It may use more power but I have a 3HP Delta and haven't noticed any problems. JC |
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