For general reference/information, some recent kitchen drawers just finished
for a kitchen in new residential construction:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects14.htm

As noted, no affiliation with the drawer slide manufacturer, just a
satisfied user on a number of kitchens now.

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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For general reference/information, some recent kitchen drawers just
finished
for a kitchen in new residential construction:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects14.htm

As noted, no affiliation with the drawer slide manufacturer, just a
satisfied user on a number of kitchens now.


Hefty looking slides. Is it important to have your tablesaw setup perfectly
to use them?

In article ,
"Swingman" wrote:

For general reference/information, some recent kitchen drawers just finished
for a kitchen in new residential construction:


I see those around and really like them.
When installing, have you ever tried TJaks?
I bought some 10+ years ago, and lost sight of the company. I found them
again and will recommend them to anybody who installs wall cabinets in
kitchens.

http://tjak.com/

Ever been to this site? Lots of useful things for the pros.

http://www.fastcap.com/

and, in both cases, a happy customer.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message

Hefty looking slides. Is it important to have your tablesaw setup
perfectly
to use them?

LOL. My table saw is always setup perfectly (or "perfectly enough" for
"making sawdust", as it obvious)

... contrary to completely unfounded and misconstrued "opinions", I make
no bones about what I really think, otherwise I wouldn't bother:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Jigs.htm#TSJrCase


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"Robatoy" wrote in message

I see those around and really like them.

Yeah, buddy! ... I really get bummed out when I have to use something else
these days. German engineering is still tough to beat on these types of
products, IMO.

When installing, have you ever tried TJaks?
I bought some 10+ years ago, and lost sight of the company. I found them
again and will recommend them to anybody who installs wall cabinets in
kitchens.

http://tjak.com/

Ever been to this site? Lots of useful things for the pros.


I've seen a tjak, but thus far have been doing it the old fashioned way,
using a jointed 1 x 2, screwed at the level line for the run of cabinets.
Not as convenient, but I don't do it every day/week/month either

Besides, the last three kitchens, a tleon works even better ... and talks
back to you.

http://www.fastcap.com/

We have a very similar "Cornerstone Hardware and Supplies" here in Houston
that caters to the cabinet making crowd. That's where I've been buying the
Hittich's.

Thanks for the links!


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"Swingman" wrote in message
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For general reference/information, some recent kitchen drawers just
finished
for a kitchen in new residential construction:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects14.htm

As noted, no affiliation with the drawer slide manufacturer, just a
satisfied user on a number of kitchens now.

Have you used Blum Tandem slides? If so, how do you think they compare?

todd

"todd" wrote in message

Have you used Blum Tandem slides? If so, how do you think they compare?

Yes, I've used both ... the Blum's are excellent, a bit more pricey as I
recall (I paid $20.35 a pair for the 21" Hittich's last time I bought them,
plus a $1.41 per pair of catches), and, at least in my experience, took a
bit more time/effort to install. The Hittich's still have that same
expensive "feel" and "sound" the Blum's have, and they are indeed as well
made and easy for a homeowner to take out if necessary.

I would expect that this is more a matter of opinion however, and I
certainly wouldn't hesitate to use the Blum's if they were spec'ed.

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"Swingman" wrote in message
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I've seen a tjak, but thus far have been doing it the old fashioned way,
using a jointed 1 x 2, screwed at the level line for the run of cabinets.
Not as convenient, but I don't do it every day/week/month either

Besides, the last three kitchens, a tleon works even better ... and talks
back to you.


TLeon, thank you. ;~)

Like your maple drawers Swingman. I am just finishing up 17 maple drawer
boxes for a contractor friend of mine. I furnish the maple and build the
boxes, he supplies the drawer fronts, hardware, finish etc. and does the
installation. I charge him $15 per drawer. About what should I charge for
a maple drawer box dovetailed all four corners with slide out (removable)
bottoms?
Earl Creel

"Swingman" wrote in message
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For general reference/information, some recent kitchen drawers just
finished
for a kitchen in new residential construction:

http://www.e-woodshop.net/Projects14.htm

As noted, no affiliation with the drawer slide manufacturer, just a
satisfied user on a number of kitchens now.

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"Earl Creel" wrote
Like your maple drawers Swingman.

Thank you!

I am just finishing up 17 maple drawer
boxes for a contractor friend of mine. I furnish the maple and build the
boxes, he supplies the drawer fronts, hardware, finish etc. and does the
installation. I charge him $15 per drawer.

For that price, I may have just built my last drawer!!

... where are you located??!


About what should I charge for
a maple drawer box dovetailed all four corners with slide out (removable)
bottoms?

That's a hard one, Earl. So much depends upon the your location, your
market, and your competition.

I really haven't priced these particular drawers out because they're part of
the "custom kitchen package" that I charge the builder ... and in this
particular case, that's me.

Also, I'm liable to spend more time, when I have it, on one drawer that is
just not up to my idea of "snuff", than Michelangelo did on the Sistine
Chapel because what passes for the shop is behind my house.

In this instance, I did spend way too much time on these drawers because of
a problem with my dovetail jig, and rather than waste the material and start
over on about a 1/3rd of them (hard maple is expensive here, roughly $6/bf
.... over $350 in S2S1E in 20 drawers, including the 1/4" maple ply), I had
more time than money in this instance to bring them "up to snuff".

That said, compared to what trim carpenters call "drawers" around here,
these are works of art, and just the 20 drawer boxes, 5/8" hard maple,
average height 4 to 6 1/2", avg width 20", depth all 21", two machine
dovetailed corners, bullnose edged top only, notched and drilled for slides,
1/4" maple ply bottoms, no finish, sanded to 150 ... around here would
probably realistically fetch between $1100 - $1300, more or less, to a
builder of $750K and up homes. ... a good deal more if they were "fitted"
inset and not overlay.

Now you know why I choose to beat myself over the head with a hammer ... it
ain't only because it feels good when I stop.

YMMV ...

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Thanks Swingman, you are spending more for wood than what I get for a
drawer. I enjoy building drawers, if I didn't my price would go up.
Earl Creel

"Swingman" wrote in message
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"Earl Creel" wrote
Like your maple drawers Swingman.

Thank you!

I am just finishing up 17 maple drawer
boxes for a contractor friend of mine. I furnish the maple and build the
boxes, he supplies the drawer fronts, hardware, finish etc. and does the
installation. I charge him $15 per drawer.

For that price, I may have just built my last drawer!!

... where are you located??!


About what should I charge for
a maple drawer box dovetailed all four corners with slide out (removable)
bottoms?

That's a hard one, Earl. So much depends upon the your location, your
market, and your competition.

I really haven't priced these particular drawers out because they're part
of
the "custom kitchen package" that I charge the builder ... and in this
particular case, that's me.

Also, I'm liable to spend more time, when I have it, on one drawer that is
just not up to my idea of "snuff", than Michelangelo did on the Sistine
Chapel because what passes for the shop is behind my house.

In this instance, I did spend way too much time on these drawers because
of
a problem with my dovetail jig, and rather than waste the material and
start
over on about a 1/3rd of them (hard maple is expensive here, roughly $6/bf
... over $350 in S2S1E in 20 drawers, including the 1/4" maple ply), I had
more time than money in this instance to bring them "up to snuff".

That said, compared to what trim carpenters call "drawers" around here,
these are works of art, and just the 20 drawer boxes, 5/8" hard maple,
average height 4 to 6 1/2", avg width 20", depth all 21", two machine
dovetailed corners, bullnose edged top only, notched and drilled for
slides,
1/4" maple ply bottoms, no finish, sanded to 150 ... around here would
probably realistically fetch between $1100 - $1300, more or less, to a
builder of $750K and up homes. ... a good deal more if they were "fitted"
inset and not overlay.

Now you know why I choose to beat myself over the head with a hammer ...
it
ain't only because it feels good when I stop.

YMMV ...

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