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![]() First turning of the winter. Australian Lacewood, Peruvian Walnut, Maple, and Black Mesquite with Maple and Ebonized veneer details. Lacquer Finish - incomplete. Ended up "thicker" than intended. Now using larger graph paper and drawing to scale to better predict the final shape. Next one should be more what I'm after. Side: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood01.jpg Top/Bottom: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood02.jpg Waaay too many hours. Now to find some fool who wants a $500 pot. ;-) FWIW, Greg G. |
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Nice work Greg. My wife keeps threatening that I need to some more segmented
work. Not my thing but I love to see it done. -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com "Greg G." wrote in message ... First turning of the winter. Australian Lacewood, Peruvian Walnut, Maple, and Black Mesquite with Maple and Ebonized veneer details. Lacquer Finish - incomplete. Ended up "thicker" than intended. Now using larger graph paper and drawing to scale to better predict the final shape. Next one should be more what I'm after. Side: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood01.jpg Top/Bottom: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood02.jpg Waaay too many hours. Now to find some fool who wants a $500 pot. ;-) FWIW, Greg G. |
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Darrell Feltmate said:
Nice work Greg. My wife keeps threatening that I need to some more segmented work. Not my thing but I love to see it done. Thanks, Darrell. It's easier for me to get milled lumber than to find felled trees around here - one reason I do a lot of segmented stuff. I've only spun a few spalted birch, pear, magnolia, and cherry green wood turnings. And they were mostly, at first anyway, limbs downed in storms. Just for practice, you know. Many warped or split, or were just plain ugly. Tension wood isn't so good for turning anything permanent. I've been tempted to drive out to rural areas and look for freshly downed trees to cut up before the firewood guys/property owners show up. I love the unbroken, organic look of natural woods as well as the methodical, ordered appearance of segmented turnings - possibly more. Also, my chainsaw is only a 14 incher. So, alas, no birdseye elm for me. I can't even find spalted sweetgum or hackberry. I wanted to try some alabaster, but can't find it locally either. No artists or sculptors around here, apparently. As for the wife's desires, what is that old bromide? No one is happy unless mom is happy? ;-) Greg G. |
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Greg
If you are handy the country, see if you can locate a firewood dealer and buy a half cord or so of fresh cut wood. Immediately seal the ends with Anchorseal and you have the next year or two worth of turning. Most of the guys will smile funny and then truck the half cord to you in their half ton. Usually they sell three cord plus at a time. This is a cheap way to get wood when felled logs are not free. http://www.aroundthewoods.com/firewood.shtml -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com "Greg G." wrote in message ... Darrell Feltmate said: Nice work Greg. My wife keeps threatening that I need to some more segmented work. Not my thing but I love to see it done. Thanks, Darrell. It's easier for me to get milled lumber than to find felled trees around here - one reason I do a lot of segmented stuff. I've only spun a few spalted birch, pear, magnolia, and cherry green wood turnings. And they were mostly, at first anyway, limbs downed in storms. Just for practice, you know. Many warped or split, or were just plain ugly. Tension wood isn't so good for turning anything permanent. I've been tempted to drive out to rural areas and look for freshly downed trees to cut up before the firewood guys/property owners show up. I love the unbroken, organic look of natural woods as well as the methodical, ordered appearance of segmented turnings - possibly more. Also, my chainsaw is only a 14 incher. So, alas, no birdseye elm for me. I can't even find spalted sweetgum or hackberry. I wanted to try some alabaster, but can't find it locally either. No artists or sculptors around here, apparently. As for the wife's desires, what is that old bromide? No one is happy unless mom is happy? ;-) Greg G. |
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Darrell Feltmate said:
If you are handy the country, see if you can locate a firewood dealer and buy a half cord or so of fresh cut wood. Immediately seal the ends with Anchorseal and you have the next year or two worth of turning. .... Thanks, Darrell. I know the routine, but I live amidst the blight of a large southern city. It's 20-40 miles just to get to outer suburbia. If I invested more time into procuring stuff, I might do better, but with gas and time being at a premium... Greg G. |
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I hear ya Greg. Try an arborist in the city. Even in the urban and suburban
blight we manifest so well, there are usually trees and some of them need to come down now and then. While some of the arborists sell wood, most have a disposal problem and will sell it cheaply or give it away. Sometimes a bowl or two can be exchanged for a lot of wood. Worth looking into and can't hurt. -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com "Greg G." wrote in message ... Darrell Feltmate said: If you are handy the country, see if you can locate a firewood dealer and buy a half cord or so of fresh cut wood. Immediately seal the ends with Anchorseal and you have the next year or two worth of turning. .... Thanks, Darrell. I know the routine, but I live amidst the blight of a large southern city. It's 20-40 miles just to get to outer suburbia. If I invested more time into procuring stuff, I might do better, but with gas and time being at a premium... Greg G. |
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very nice work! There someone out there that would be willing to part with
their money for something that looks this nice. "Greg G." wrote in message ... First turning of the winter. Australian Lacewood, Peruvian Walnut, Maple, and Black Mesquite with Maple and Ebonized veneer details. Lacquer Finish - incomplete. Ended up "thicker" than intended. Now using larger graph paper and drawing to scale to better predict the final shape. Next one should be more what I'm after. Side: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood01.jpg Top/Bottom: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood02.jpg Waaay too many hours. Now to find some fool who wants a $500 pot. ;-) FWIW, Greg G. |
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Steven Raphael said:
very nice work! There someone out there that would be willing to part with their money for something that looks this nice. Thanks, Steven. I'm hoping so. I could use an ambient air cleaner to deal with the toxic black walnut and sapore dust this stuff kicks up. Greg G. |
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Hello Greg,
I built one using an old squirrel cage fan and motor from a house furnace. I built a box around it and stack 2 or 3 furnace filters in the input side. It sits about 2 foot off the floor of the shop and works. How do I know? the filters get dirty. Now hanging it from the ceiling closer to the lathe would be better but space is not available. On Dec 6, 3:38 pm, Greg wrote: Steven Raphael said: very nice work! There someone out there that would be willing to part with their money for something that looks this nice. Thanks, Steven. I'm hoping so. I could use an ambient air cleaner to deal with the toxic black walnut and sapore dust this stuff kicks up. Greg G. |
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Kevin said:
I built one using an old squirrel cage fan and motor from a house furnace. I built a box around it and stack 2 or 3 furnace filters in the input side. It sits about 2 foot off the floor of the shop and works. How do I know? the filters get dirty. Now hanging it from the ceiling closer to the lathe would be better but space is not available. Thanks, Kevin. I would do what you suggest, but I'm not in the HVAC business, and the local dump won't let you scavenge. What a waste, eh? A local dealer has the small Jet for $220, and by the time I drive around and look for "parts", I could just buy one. With an electrostatic + pocket filter and a timer/remote. I have used a box fan with an allergen filter, and it helps, but the super fine dust from 600+ sandpaper applied to exotics and lacquer remains a problem. I just built a dust hood for the lathe out of scraps, and this seems to help considerably. In the warmer months, the dust collector goes outside, but in the winter I can't afford the heat loss. Scrap Materials Lathe Hood: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...atheHood01.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...atheHood02.jpg Greg G. |
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Greg
Nice pictures and a good idea. I have something like it but not as nice. Mind if I use the pictures on the web site, with credit of course. Send me a private e-mail if you like. It is an easy link off the site. -- God bless and safe turning Darrell Feltmate Truro, NS Canada http://aroundthewoods.com http://roundopinions.blogspot.com "Greg G." wrote in message ... Kevin said: I built one using an old squirrel cage fan and motor from a house furnace. I built a box around it and stack 2 or 3 furnace filters in the input side. It sits about 2 foot off the floor of the shop and works. How do I know? the filters get dirty. Now hanging it from the ceiling closer to the lathe would be better but space is not available. Thanks, Kevin. I would do what you suggest, but I'm not in the HVAC business, and the local dump won't let you scavenge. What a waste, eh? A local dealer has the small Jet for $220, and by the time I drive around and look for "parts", I could just buy one. With an electrostatic + pocket filter and a timer/remote. I have used a box fan with an allergen filter, and it helps, but the super fine dust from 600+ sandpaper applied to exotics and lacquer remains a problem. I just built a dust hood for the lathe out of scraps, and this seems to help considerably. In the warmer months, the dust collector goes outside, but in the winter I can't afford the heat loss. Scrap Materials Lathe Hood: http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...atheHood01.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...atheHood02.jpg Greg G. |
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That's one handsome bowl, Greg. It would be even without segmenting. I
don't turn anything that requires graphing, which is one reason why your _bowl bottoms look better than my _bowl tops. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Arch said:
That's one handsome bowl, Greg. It would be even without segmenting. I don't turn anything that requires graphing, which is one reason why your _bowl bottoms look better than my _bowl tops. Thanks, Arch. But remember that two years ago, I had never seen a lathe, and it was all the good advise from the sages here in r.c.w that led me down this slippery slope of expensive tool acquisitions. Me thinks you might exaggerate a wee bit, however, but thanks for the vote of confidence. Maybe in a dozen or so more years. Now if I could find green wood that isn't pine, or being guarded and ultimately trucked off to Georgia Pacific. :-\ Greg G. |
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On Dec 6, 5:17 am, Greg wrote:
First turning of the winter. Australian Lacewood, Peruvian Walnut, Maple, and Black Mesquite with Maple and Ebonized veneer details. Lacquer Finish - incomplete. Ended up "thicker" than intended. Now using larger graph paper and drawing to scale to better predict the final shape. Next one should be more what I'm after. Side:http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood01.jpg Top/Bottom:http://webpages.charter.net/videodoc...lacewood02.jpg Waaay too many hours. Now to find some fool who wants a $500 pot. ;-) FWIW, Greg G. Hi Greg, If your not happy with the thickness why not remount it and reduce it a bit. If you can't get the calipers inside because of the smaller opening why not cut the rim off, re-turn it and put it back. Usually too thick isn't a problem. Better too thick than too thin. Also unless you really enjoy the drawing process a program like woodturner pro will save a lot of time and headaches. While I like the drawing process it gets old after a while. I'd much rather be building and turning than drawing. Bob http://www.outofcontrol-woodturning.com |
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turnerbob said:
Hi Greg, If your not happy with the thickness why not remount it and reduce it a bit. If you can't get the calipers inside because of the smaller opening why not cut the rim off, re-turn it and put it back. Usually too thick isn't a problem. Better too thick than too thin. By thickness, I was referring to the ultimate shape more than wall thickness. There is no "extra" material there to work with. It just seems rather blobby, and I was after a slimmer, more modern look. Unfortunately, the close dimensions I cut this stuff to doesn't leave much room for variation in shape once planned and cut. Also unless you really enjoy the drawing process a program like woodturner pro will save a lot of time and headaches. While I like the drawing process it gets old after a while. I'd much rather be building and turning than drawing. I understand. I have a computer program, but unfortunately it doesn't really show the whole picture. Subtle aspect ratio variations occur between the image on the screen and the resulting bowl. So I draw half the shape (and mirror) and use those measurements to plan the cut list. Due to the high cost of some of the woods, I leave only an approximate 1/16" margin for error. I haven't tried Woodturner Pro in a few years, but I preferred Segmented Project Planner at the time. I ended up writing my own program in C++ so that coding mods could be made easily in-house. Greg G. |
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