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Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking?
tdup2 wrote:
I would say you are in the "Fuzzy Edges" when you are no longer turning the complete piece. Using a router, or sculpturing holes in certain areas and things like that would fall into sculpturing. But, given enough axis options, you can take off a little or a lot of wood at very specific places, just as you would doing "normal" carving. Check out some of Mark Sfirri's pieces in the picture of the shelves full of "stuff" on this page. http://www.lynneyamaguchi.com/wordpr...80%99s-july-8/ Hell, take just about any piece on that page - all technically "turned" - but they sure look like sculpture to me. With a special Escoulen ball chuck you have an almost infinite number of "centers" you can use to remove wood almost anywhere you want to. Granted, it may take a lot of head scratching and maybe a brain cramp to do it - but once you go beyond single axis turning there are plenty of options available If you do integral "feet" on a bowl, and that requires some work with some wood rasps and/or a grinder, is it still a turning? What about charring then wire brushing or sand blasting the surface, or some of the surface, of the turned piece? Hunter turns a piece, then bandsaws it up and places the pieces together in a different way. Sculpture or turning. Malcom Tibbet(t) turns two identical bowls, cuts each into equal parts, flips parts and stick things back together again to create mobius strip type pieces. Turning or sculpture? charlie b |
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Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking?
They look like sculpture to me too but id you're using your lathe to turn
them, wouldn't it still be turning? K. "charlieb" wrote in message ... tdup2 wrote: I would say you are in the "Fuzzy Edges" when you are no longer turning the complete piece. Using a router, or sculpturing holes in certain areas and things like that would fall into sculpturing. But, given enough axis options, you can take off a little or a lot of wood at very specific places, just as you would doing "normal" carving. Check out some of Mark Sfirri's pieces in the picture of the shelves full of "stuff" on this page. http://www.lynneyamaguchi.com/wordpr...80%99s-july-8/ Hell, take just about any piece on that page - all technically "turned" - but they sure look like sculpture to me. With a special Escoulen ball chuck you have an almost infinite number of "centers" you can use to remove wood almost anywhere you want to. Granted, it may take a lot of head scratching and maybe a brain cramp to do it - but once you go beyond single axis turning there are plenty of options available If you do integral "feet" on a bowl, and that requires some work with some wood rasps and/or a grinder, is it still a turning? What about charring then wire brushing or sand blasting the surface, or some of the surface, of the turned piece? Hunter turns a piece, then bandsaws it up and places the pieces together in a different way. Sculpture or turning. Malcom Tibbet(t) turns two identical bowls, cuts each into equal parts, flips parts and stick things back together again to create mobius strip type pieces. Turning or sculpture? charlie b |
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Turning - The Fuzzy Edges Form Of Woodworking?
Using labels to put the elements and variations of something into pigeon holes is usually a first step in recognizing the relationships of parts to the whole. This can result in progress, but I think divisive descriptives can also be a misstep that can be counterproductive. Separation of wood turning and wood sculpture into questionably distinct efforts can inhibit our appreciation and best use of both ends of woodturning's broad spectrum. On a larger OT scale, witness the problems that separate federal departments can cause in dealing with international terror. Again OT, but comparable; I remember when the major effort in managing psychiatric problems seemed to be concerned with labelling patients as distinct clinical entities and assigning them to separate diagnostic pigeon holes. That probably hindered true understanding that would have led to better therapy for many sufferers. You could suffer from schizophrenia or from manic depression, but like the old song advised, they didn't "mess with Mr. In-between". If woodturning and wood sculpturing had been restricted to separate disciplines as some would have had us do, think of what we would have lost. Making artistic and/or useful wooden shapes is a continuous endeavor and wood turning isn't fenced off from wood sculpturing. I just stopped in time to avoid saying, "and neither is turned craft fenced off from turned art". Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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