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I still have my first lathe given to me by my parents decades ago.
Recently, I had need of a steady rest, and picked one up at the local Woodcrafter's store only to find out that a steady rest built for a 12" lathe doesn't fit a 10" lathe - DUH! So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I also feel like I should put a bumper sticker on the smaller lathe: My other lathe is a 16". And I do have a home made steady rest for it. Thanks Tim |
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Tim Schubach wrote:
[snip] I also feel like I should put a bumper sticker on the smaller lathe: My other lathe is a 16". And I do have a home made steady rest for it. This reminds me -- I've been thinking of getting a license plate frame "I'd rather be driving my Oneway". It couldn't be any more obscure than the current pair of "The Art of Rotodendrology" (thanks to A. Hilton, I think) and "Carpe Lignum, Torne Lignum" (courtesy Lynn Mangiamelli). I should explain -- the plate itself is 'A WDTRNR'. DW |
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"Tim Schubach" wrote: So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I do note that you'd rather buy one, however, I offer a couple pics of the homemade steadies I used on my Delta Midi: http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/SteadyRest.JPG http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/SteadyRest2.JPG The "bearings" are UHMW plastic (ultra-high molecular weight) - this material is very slippery. I drilled a couple holes of varying diameters in a few lengths and then cut the hole in half to fit over the wood spindle to make a pair. You can see the "B" in the second pic to use the drilled pairs as a set. They're held to the steady and against the wood by deStacco clamps. I've had very good success with this setup - just keep the speed under 2500 or so for 1/4" spindles to make sure the plastic doesn't get too hot and begin smoking. -- Owen Lowe Northwest Woodturners Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild ___ Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness. |
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Hi Owen
Owen that's a very need setup, KISS all the way, thanks for showing, I don't think I would have ever considered using the UHMW material for that, I'd have expected it would just wear away to fast. This is just to show, "there's always more to learn". Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo Owen Lowe wrote: In article , "Tim Schubach" wrote: So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I do note that you'd rather buy one, however, I offer a couple pics of the homemade steadies I used on my Delta Midi: http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/SteadyRest.JPG http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/SteadyRest2.JPG The "bearings" are UHMW plastic (ultra-high molecular weight) - this material is very slippery. I drilled a couple holes of varying diameters in a few lengths and then cut the hole in half to fit over the wood spindle to make a pair. You can see the "B" in the second pic to use the drilled pairs as a set. They're held to the steady and against the wood by deStacco clamps. I've had very good success with this setup - just keep the speed under 2500 or so for 1/4" spindles to make sure the plastic doesn't get too hot and begin smoking. -- Owen Lowe Northwest Woodturners Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild ___ Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness. |
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Ingenious, Owen, Fit & proper for the lathe shown, but I do hope you
will paint the base white before insulting the Oneway. ![]() Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:12:01 GMT, Owen Lowe wrote:
I do note that you'd rather buy one, however, I offer a couple pics of the homemade steadies I used on my Delta Midi: http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/SteadyRest.JPG http://users.easystreet.com/onlnlowe/misc/SteadyRest2.JPG The "bearings" are UHMW plastic (ultra-high molecular weight) - this material is very slippery. I drilled a couple holes of varying diameters in a few lengths and then cut the hole in half to fit over the wood spindle to make a pair. You can see the "B" in the second pic to use the drilled pairs as a set. They're held to the steady and against the wood by deStacco clamps. I've had very good success with this setup - just keep the speed under 2500 or so for 1/4" spindles to make sure the plastic doesn't get too hot and begin smoking. Very clever, Owen! Of course, if I could afford jig clamps like yours, I could buy a steady rest.. *g* I was going to build one like this: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...330,49238&ap=1 but your system looks like a better way to go... Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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mac davis wrote: Of course, if I could afford jig clamps like yours, I could buy a steady rest.. *g* I used regular 2" or 3" C-clamps for a while but wanted something that was quicker - there are likely many clamp types that would work. -- Owen Lowe Northwest Woodturners Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild ___ Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness. |
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Owen Lowe wrote:
In article , mac davis wrote: Of course, if I could afford jig clamps like yours, I could buy a steady rest.. *g* I used regular 2" or 3" C-clamps for a while but wanted something that was quicker - there are likely many clamp types that would work. I was gonna ask what the clamps were, then I saw the 'de' in the brand name. Pretty much anything that has 'de' in the name I can't afford. ![]() |
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In article URLCg.19321$hj4.16928@trnddc03,
Lobby Dosser wrote: I used regular 2" or 3" C-clamps for a while but wanted something that was quicker - there are likely many clamp types that would work. I was gonna ask what the clamps were, then I saw the 'de' in the brand name. Pretty much anything that has 'de' in the name I can't afford. ![]() As I recall, these de-Sta-cos were about $13-$14 each. When you compare that to other quality clamps that will hold well - even Vise-Grips, they are in the ballpark and even inside the baseline. -- Owen Lowe Northwest Woodturners Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild ___ Tips fer Turnin': Place a sign, easily seen as you switch on your lathe, warning you to remove any and all rings from your fingers. Called degloving, extended hardware can grab your ring and rip it off your finger. A pic for the strong of stomach: www.itim.nsw.gov.au/go/objectid/2A3AC703-1321-1C29-70B067DC88E16BFC/index.cfm Besides, rings can easily mar the surface of a turning as you check for finished smoothness. |
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:51:28 GMT, Owen Lowe wrote:
In article , mac davis wrote: Of course, if I could afford jig clamps like yours, I could buy a steady rest.. *g* I used regular 2" or 3" C-clamps for a while but wanted something that was quicker - there are likely many clamp types that would work. Those are pretty cool, though... probably great for jig setup and such.. Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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I got in on this post late, but Tim, if you want to take a look at the
design I came up with for building your own, see it on my webpage at www.hdv.net under "Tips" The direct link to a instruction file on how to make it is: http://www.hdv.net/tips/Making%20a%20Steady%20Rest.htm This thing has been copied hundreds of times by now, and everyone that has made it likes it because it's simply, extremely sturdy and cheap to make. Herm "Tim Schubach" wrote in : I still have my first lathe given to me by my parents decades ago. Recently, I had need of a steady rest, and picked one up at the local Woodcrafter's store only to find out that a steady rest built for a 12" lathe doesn't fit a 10" lathe - DUH! So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I also feel like I should put a bumper sticker on the smaller lathe: My other lathe is a 16". And I do have a home made steady rest for it. Thanks Tim |
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:34:36 GMT, Herman de Vries wrote:
I got in on this post late, but Tim, if you want to take a look at the design I came up with for building your own, see it on my webpage at www.hdv.net under "Tips" The direct link to a instruction file on how to make it is: http://www.hdv.net/tips/Making%20a%20Steady%20Rest.htm This thing has been copied hundreds of times by now, and everyone that has made it likes it because it's simply, extremely sturdy and cheap to make. Herm Herm... you lost me at "1½” square steel tubing and weld in ¾” threaded rod"... Not being a welder, I'm outta luck there... Do you think that there be a lot less stability if the threaded rod were fastened to the square tube with bolts and lock washers? Also, would there be any advantage to having maybe 2 rollers on the bottom, to center the work, or is it already self-centering? thanks! "Tim Schubach" wrote in : I still have my first lathe given to me by my parents decades ago. Recently, I had need of a steady rest, and picked one up at the local Woodcrafter's store only to find out that a steady rest built for a 12" lathe doesn't fit a 10" lathe - DUH! So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I also feel like I should put a bumper sticker on the smaller lathe: My other lathe is a 16". And I do have a home made steady rest for it. Thanks Tim Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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mac davis wrote in
: On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:34:36 GMT, Herman de Vries wrote: I got in on this post late, but Tim, if you want to take a look at the design I came up with for building your own, see it on my webpage at www.hdv.net under "Tips" The direct link to a instruction file on how to make it is: http://www.hdv.net/tips/Making%20a%20Steady%20Rest.htm This thing has been copied hundreds of times by now, and everyone that has made it likes it because it's simply, extremely sturdy and cheap to make. Herm Herm... you lost me at "1½” square steel tubing and weld in ¾” threaded rod"... Not being a welder, I'm outta luck there... Do you think that there be a lot less stability if the threaded rod were fastened to the square tube with bolts and lock washers? Also, would there be any advantage to having maybe 2 rollers on the bottom, to center the work, or is it already self-centering? thanks! "Tim Schubach" wrote in m: I still have my first lathe given to me by my parents decades ago. Recently, I had need of a steady rest, and picked one up at the local Woodcrafter's store only to find out that a steady rest built for a 12" lathe doesn't fit a 10" lathe - DUH! So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I also feel like I should put a bumper sticker on the smaller lathe: My other lathe is a 16". And I do have a home made steady rest for it. Thanks Tim Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm Tim, sorry to be late in responding. The advantage to welding the threaded rod into the holes in the sqaure tubing is to give you a bit more capacity on the lower crosspiece. If you had a nut on the top of the square tubing, your lower cross piece could not be lowered as much. You would lose the width of the nut in capacity. There is already 2 wheels on the bottom crosspiece, so I presume you mean the top crosspiece. No need for it. The piece centers itself well. By using light adjustments on the ends of the bottom crosspiece you can get the bottom wheels touching the work at precisely the same time. A half turn or so upward on each nut will keep the piece centered. The top wheel just ensures that the centering won't be lost. I guess you could put two wheels on the top too, if you wished. |
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Hi Herm, thanks. Awful good to see your name and your good advice on a
rcw thread. For any newbies; Herm was and still is, a valued member of this newsgroup. He is a superior turner-instructor in his own right and he initiated a very fine woodturning forum (WOW) with pictures as well as text and he hasn't been as active here as before. Let's keep asking for his advice. ![]() Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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Hi Mac
I can weld, just come by and I will do it for you, ;-)) But seriously, I think you should be able to insert a fitting block inside your lower square tube and drill and tap that, some locktite and a nut underneath and you would be able to use the full lenght that way. How is the new place coming along Mac ?? Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo mac davis wrote: On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:34:36 GMT, Herman de Vries wrote: I got in on this post late, but Tim, if you want to take a look at the design I came up with for building your own, see it on my webpage at www.hdv.net under "Tips" The direct link to a instruction file on how to make it is: http://www.hdv.net/tips/Making%20a%20Steady%20Rest.htm This thing has been copied hundreds of times by now, and everyone that has made it likes it because it's simply, extremely sturdy and cheap to make. Herm Herm... you lost me at "1½" square steel tubing and weld in ¾" threaded rod"... Not being a welder, I'm outta luck there... Do you think that there be a lot less stability if the threaded rod were fastened to the square tube with bolts and lock washers? Also, would there be any advantage to having maybe 2 rollers on the bottom, to center the work, or is it already self-centering? thanks! "Tim Schubach" wrote in : I still have my first lathe given to me by my parents decades ago. Recently, I had need of a steady rest, and picked one up at the local Woodcrafter's store only to find out that a steady rest built for a 12" lathe doesn't fit a 10" lathe - DUH! So I've been on the hunt for a smaller version, and have not been successful so far. Other than building one from scratch, are there any other sources where I might find one for my smaller lathe? I also feel like I should put a bumper sticker on the smaller lathe: My other lathe is a 16". And I do have a home made steady rest for it. Thanks Tim Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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On 12 Sep 2006 21:05:31 -0700, "
wrote: Hi Mac I can weld, just come by and I will do it for you, ;-)) Kind of a long trip, Leo.. and not to my kind of weather! But seriously, I think you should be able to insert a fitting block inside your lower square tube and drill and tap that, some locktite and a nut underneath and you would be able to use the full lenght that way. I have to look at the page again, but I was also thinking about using solid stock instead of the square tube.. then just drill and tap it.. How is the new place coming along Mac ?? Pretty close to finished... the windows went in last week and the doors are just about done... We're going down tomorrow to give the builder more money (stage 5 or whatever) and pick up our visa.... moving truck from Baja will be here on Oct. 12th! I'll try to get some new pictures on the page up, or maybe on the new page... ( davisbaja.com & bajawoodcraft.com) Mac https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm |
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