Please note this comment as you read the article...

"Officials have not decided whether to track plants bought at the
store, which might be difficult in the case of cash purchases, Waltz
said, or to put out a public alert."

I guess that way the public won't know who to blame when all their
trees start dying.

TMT




Oak-killing pathogen appears in Indiana Tue Aug 1


A tree disease that's killed hundreds of thousands of oak trees in
California is now in Indiana after arriving in a shipment of shrubs
from Oregon, state officials said.

The funguslike organism that causes Sudden Oak Death by encircling oak
trees and strangling them was found two weeks ago in a Viburnum shrub
at a Sears Hardware in Portage, state entomologist Robert Waltz said.

"It's worrisome. It's a very bad pathogen, no doubt about it," he said.

The disease, Phytophthora ramorum, doesn't spread from oak to oak but
to oaks from host plants such as rhododendrons and maple trees.

The infected shrub in Portage was buried in a landfill, but Waltz said
there is no way to know whether other plants sold to the public might
have been infected.

"All we know is that at least one plant was infected, but whether there
were two plants or 10 plants, we don't know," he said.

The Indiana Department of Natural Resources tested the plants after
being alerted by federal officials.

Officials have not decided whether to track plants bought at the store,
which might be difficult in the case of cash purchases, Waltz said, or
to put out a public alert.

The pathogen, which appeared suddenly in California and Western Europe
in the mid-1990s, has been found in 14 California counties, southern
Oregon and Washington, said Brian L. Anacker, a researcher at Sonoma
State University in California.

Indiana is considered at moderate risk, but Waltz said most of its
forests are in the southern part of the state, where the pathogen might
be able to gain a foothold. If it did, the damage could be significant.

About half of all Indiana trees more than 20 inches in diameter are
oak, state foresters have said, and the state has about 1.8 million
acres of oak and hickory-type forests. Lumber is the fifth-largest
industry in the state.

___

Information from: The Indianapolis Star, http://www.indystar.com

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message

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Oh, oh ... based on this you can bet the price at the lumberyard is going up
.... this afternoon.

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......

The funguslike organism that causes Sudden Oak Death by encircling oak
trees and strangling them was found two weeks ago in a Viburnum shrub
at a Sears Hardware in Portage, state entomologist Robert Waltz said.


It effects more then the Oak though, it also effects Rhody's (really and
issue in the PNW)

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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message

Oak-killing pathogen appears in Indiana Tue Aug 1

Oh, oh ... based on this you can bet the price at the lumberyard is going up
... this afternoon.

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...
Please note this comment as you read the article...

"Officials have not decided whether to track plants bought at the
store, which might be difficult in the case of cash purchases, Waltz
said, or to put out a public alert."

I guess that way the public won't know who to blame when all their
trees start dying.

TMT



I keep saying, there is something wrong with California. People and things
are more susceptible to disease in California than any where else in the US.
;~)

And ripped from the headlines on MSNBC.com

Early-Onset of Type 2 Diabetes Linked to Early Death

Do they really think Diabetes is caused by death?


Seems more likely that Early Death would be linked to Early-onset of Type 2
Diabetes.

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Please note this comment as you read the article...

"Officials have not decided whether to track plants bought at the
store, which might be difficult in the case of cash purchases, Waltz
said, or to put out a public alert."

I guess that way the public won't know who to blame when all their
trees start dying.



Like, is there some reason they can't do both?

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"Swingman" wrote in message
...
"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message

Oak-killing pathogen appears in Indiana Tue Aug 1

Oh, oh ... based on this you can bet the price at the lumberyard is
going up
... this afternoon.

No doubt the lumber industry has been taking notes from the
petro-chemical industry.

--
"New Wave" Dave In Houston

We have it in Texas too. I think they are calling it Oak wilt here, but
pretty sure it is the same thing you are describing. Not sure how it was
originated, probably in similar fashion to Dutch Elm Disease.
Charlie

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
ups.com...
Please note this comment as you read the article...

"Officials have not decided whether to track plants bought at the
store, which might be difficult in the case of cash purchases, Waltz
said, or to put out a public alert."

I guess that way the public won't know who to blame when all their
trees start dying.

TMT




Oak-killing pathogen appears in Indiana Tue Aug 1


A tree disease that's killed hundreds of thousands of oak trees in
California is now in Indiana after arriving in a shipment of shrubs
from Oregon, state officials said.

The funguslike organism that causes Sudden Oak Death by encircling oak
trees and strangling them was found two weeks ago in a Viburnum shrub
at a Sears Hardware in Portage, state entomologist Robert Waltz said.

"It's worrisome. It's a very bad pathogen, no doubt about it," he said.

The disease, Phytophthora ramorum, doesn't spread from oak to oak but
to oaks from host plants such as rhododendrons and maple trees.

The infected shrub in Portage was buried in a landfill, but Waltz said
there is no way to know whether other plants sold to the public might
have been infected.

"All we know is that at least one plant was infected, but whether there
were two plants or 10 plants, we don't know," he said.

The Indiana Department of Natural Resources tested the plants after
being alerted by federal officials.

Officials have not decided whether to track plants bought at the store,
which might be difficult in the case of cash purchases, Waltz said, or
to put out a public alert.

The pathogen, which appeared suddenly in California and Western Europe
in the mid-1990s, has been found in 14 California counties, southern
Oregon and Washington, said Brian L. Anacker, a researcher at Sonoma
State University in California.

Indiana is considered at moderate risk, but Waltz said most of its
forests are in the southern part of the state, where the pathogen might
be able to gain a foothold. If it did, the damage could be significant.

About half of all Indiana trees more than 20 inches in diameter are
oak, state foresters have said, and the state has about 1.8 million
acres of oak and hickory-type forests. Lumber is the fifth-largest
industry in the state.

___

Information from: The Indianapolis Star, http://www.indystar.com

Charlie H. wrote:
We have it in Texas too. I think they are calling it Oak wilt here, but
pretty sure it is the same thing you are describing. Not sure how it was
originated, probably in similar fashion to Dutch Elm Disease.
Charlie


Charlie,

Not that it necessarily makes a damn bit of difference, but Oak Wilt is
a different fungus, ceratocystis fagacearum. Very easily mistaken for
Sudden Oak Death, phytophthora ramorum. Regardless, Oak Wilt is
decimating the eastern forests, SOD is decimating the western. Nasty
*******s, both. And SOD can kill certain maples, too, as well as a
host of other shrubs (huckleberry being one of them, and as someone
mentioned above, rhododendrons). Doug firs can become infected too,
but as a rule aren't dying from it.

Right now there is no known cure for SOD, but there is a fungicide
being recommended as a preventive measure. Phytophthora fungi, like
most any others, are very good at forming resistant colonies, so
there's a good chance that one fungicide won't work by itself for long.
(Another form of phytophthora was responsible for the Irish Potato
Famines.)

Funny you mentioned Dutch Elm disease...the Netherlands currently has
SOD too.

Oak wilt? Sudden Oak Death? How does one tell the difference?

In the past, I have seen oaks die from the botttom up and others who
died from the top down....in the same backyard.

Also, how easily is it spread by using the dead tree for firewood?

Thanks

TMT

wrote:
Charlie H. wrote:
We have it in Texas too. I think they are calling it Oak wilt here, but
pretty sure it is the same thing you are describing. Not sure how it was
originated, probably in similar fashion to Dutch Elm Disease.
Charlie


Charlie,

Not that it necessarily makes a damn bit of difference, but Oak Wilt is
a different fungus, ceratocystis fagacearum. Very easily mistaken for
Sudden Oak Death, phytophthora ramorum. Regardless, Oak Wilt is
decimating the eastern forests, SOD is decimating the western. Nasty
*******s, both. And SOD can kill certain maples, too, as well as a
host of other shrubs (huckleberry being one of them, and as someone
mentioned above, rhododendrons). Doug firs can become infected too,
but as a rule aren't dying from it.

Right now there is no known cure for SOD, but there is a fungicide
being recommended as a preventive measure. Phytophthora fungi, like
most any others, are very good at forming resistant colonies, so
there's a good chance that one fungicide won't work by itself for long.
(Another form of phytophthora was responsible for the Irish Potato
Famines.)

Funny you mentioned Dutch Elm disease...the Netherlands currently has
SOD too.

Thanks for the update I didn't know about SOD, unfortunately it is even
worse than I though it was, and I thought that it was pretty bad.
Charlie

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ups.com...

Charlie H. wrote:
We have it in Texas too. I think they are calling it Oak wilt here, but
pretty sure it is the same thing you are describing. Not sure how it was
originated, probably in similar fashion to Dutch Elm Disease.
Charlie


Charlie,

Not that it necessarily makes a damn bit of difference, but Oak Wilt is
a different fungus, ceratocystis fagacearum. Very easily mistaken for
Sudden Oak Death, phytophthora ramorum. Regardless, Oak Wilt is
decimating the eastern forests, SOD is decimating the western. Nasty
*******s, both. And SOD can kill certain maples, too, as well as a
host of other shrubs (huckleberry being one of them, and as someone
mentioned above, rhododendrons). Doug firs can become infected too,
but as a rule aren't dying from it.

Right now there is no known cure for SOD, but there is a fungicide
being recommended as a preventive measure. Phytophthora fungi, like
most any others, are very good at forming resistant colonies, so
there's a good chance that one fungicide won't work by itself for long.
(Another form of phytophthora was responsible for the Irish Potato
Famines.)

Funny you mentioned Dutch Elm disease...the Netherlands currently has
SOD too.

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Oak wilt? Sudden Oak Death? How does one tell the difference?

In the past, I have seen oaks die from the botttom up and others who
died from the top down....in the same backyard.

Also, how easily is it spread by using the dead tree for firewood?

Thanks

TMT


Using the dead tree for firewood is probably a good thing...that's how
they're attempting to eradicate infected trees in the wild--by burning.

As far as telling the difference between Oak Wilt and SOD, you can tell
by the "sores" on the tree, and at this time by your geography. In
other words, if you don't live in California/Oregon (or parts of
Europe), the chances of you having SOD are basically nill. SOD is a
very new development, and it has not been found, at least to any real
extent, in the wild outside of that range. As for identifying by the
sores, check out this website:

http://nature.berkeley.edu/comtf/htm...toms.html#oaks

With SOD, there are canker sores which appear to "bleed."

In a "Thank God for small mercies" way, it appears that white oak
species are not susceptible to SOD...it is only the red oaks that are
succumbing.

One correction from my earlier post--maple trees are not actually dying
from SOD...although they can become infected and serve as hosts. Like
the Doug firs, it causes them some damage, but they ultimately survive.

The reason why I ask about using the wood for firewood is that the
firewood is taken to new locations where the disease can then be spread
to other trees located farther from the location of the dead tree than
it might have spread without assistance.

TMT



wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Oak wilt? Sudden Oak Death? How does one tell the difference?

In the past, I have seen oaks die from the botttom up and others who
died from the top down....in the same backyard.

Also, how easily is it spread by using the dead tree for firewood?

Thanks

TMT


Using the dead tree for firewood is probably a good thing...that's how
they're attempting to eradicate infected trees in the wild--by burning.

As far as telling the difference between Oak Wilt and SOD, you can tell
by the "sores" on the tree, and at this time by your geography. In
other words, if you don't live in California/Oregon (or parts of
Europe), the chances of you having SOD are basically nill. SOD is a
very new development, and it has not been found, at least to any real
extent, in the wild outside of that range. As for identifying by the
sores, check out this website:

http://nature.berkeley.edu/comtf/htm...toms.html#oaks

With SOD, there are canker sores which appear to "bleed."

In a "Thank God for small mercies" way, it appears that white oak
species are not susceptible to SOD...it is only the red oaks that are
succumbing.

One correction from my earlier post--maple trees are not actually dying
from SOD...although they can become infected and serve as hosts. Like
the Doug firs, it causes them some damage, but they ultimately survive.

writes:

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
Oak wilt? Sudden Oak Death? How does one tell the difference?

In the past, I have seen oaks die from the botttom up and others who
died from the top down....in the same backyard.

Also, how easily is it spread by using the dead tree for firewood?

Thanks

TMT


Using the dead tree for firewood is probably a good thing...that's how
they're attempting to eradicate infected trees in the wild--by burning.

As far as telling the difference between Oak Wilt and SOD, you can tell
by the "sores" on the tree, and at this time by your geography. In
other words, if you don't live in California/Oregon (or parts of
Europe), the chances of you having SOD are basically nill. SOD is a
very new development, and it has not been found, at least to any real
extent, in the wild outside of that range. As for identifying by the
sores, check out this website:

http://nature.berkeley.edu/comtf/htm...toms.html#oaks

With SOD, there are canker sores which appear to "bleed."

In a "Thank God for small mercies" way, it appears that white oak
species are not susceptible to SOD...it is only the red oaks that are
succumbing.

Live oaks in Ca. Lost mine in 1997.

scott