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Vacu Gouge
About four years ago, I bought a Vacu Gouge from a clearance sale. I
think it is a 1-1/4" roughing gouge. The tube is steel and is about 24" long, with a 3" section of high speed steel at the end which is sharpenend like a rouging gouge. The other end of the gouge is shaped to fit a standard 1-1/4" shop vac hose. When hooked up to a shop vac and used like a standard rouging gouge, the shop vac collectly nearly 100 percent of the shavings. It is pretty impressive. I've posted this information before (several years ago).............. When I first had the tool, I tried it with a variety of woods, both with and without a shop vac attached. Here are my results. When using the gouge with a shop vac, the gouge did all that is promised. It rarely clogged, took nearly 100 percent of the chips and, with a sharp edge all the way around the end, required very little sharpening. What I did not like was three things: 1 - The shop vac hose tended to get in my way. As you twist the tool to get a fresh edge, the hose tends to twist and coil. This made it less convenient as you move the tool on your work piece. 2 - The shop vac must be close by. I have a crowded shop and do not have space for a shop vac at my back. Because the hose is not 100 percent flexible, the location of the shop vac is pretty important for comfortable turning. 3 - Shop vacs are noisy, especially when close to you. I also used the tool without the shop vac attached. When doing this, I positioned a 5 gallon pail at the discard end of the tool to collect chips. This worked pretty well when the wood was very dry and the chips came out small. It worked best when the gouge was held at a steep angle - maybe more steep than you would mornally hold a rouging gouge. Again, nearly 100 percent of the chips found their way into the bucket. However, when the wood was wet or oily, the chips tended to stick in the opening of the gouge causing the gouge to clog. I kept a 3 ft dowel handy to poke the chips from the discharge end back out the cutting opening. Is the gouge a value? The gouge does exactly what it says it will do. If I did a lot of spindle turning, I would consider this tool worthy of considerable use. However, I don't use it very often because I rarely ONLY use a rouging gouge. Consequently, regardless of how many chips I collect in a shop vac or bucket, the balance of the chips from all the other tools go everywhere. It doesn't provide a sufficient incremental improvement in shop cleaning to make it worth my use to compensate for the limitations mentioned. My bowl gouges, hollowing tools, etc. generate far more chips than the rouging gouge. Joe Fleming - San Diego |
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Vacu Gouge
In article .com,
"Joe Fleming" wrote: considerable use. However, I don't use it very often because I rarely ONLY use a rouging gouge. Consequently, regardless of how many chips I collect in a shop vac or bucket, the balance of the chips from all the other tools go everywhere. It doesn't provide a sufficient incremental improvement in shop cleaning to make it worth my use to compensate for the limitations mentioned. My bowl gouges, hollowing tools, etc. generate far more chips than the rouging gouge. My system, which I regard as prior art, while I'm sure the VG inventor would mistakenly claim that his possession of a patent means there was no prior art (I came up with it circa 1980) is much simpler and adapts to many tools. Simply mount a vacuum intake on top of whatever tool, a few inches back from the edge (basically far enough that if you want to look at the edge rather than the profile, you can). Duct tape or more sophisticated means work. If you use a vacuum hose extension you can simply plug into the hose. The disadvantage of being loud is still a problem - one of these days I'll get the dust collector set up and try to see if it works that way. I came up with this when my lathe was located in a shed with a bunch of other stuff at the entrance to my parent's house - it was far faster to collect all the chips directly than to vacuum them out of the crevices and clutter later. With a clear area to work and clean up, it's simpler by far to let them fall, though it might be of worth with those irritant exotic species I hardly ever turn at present. FWIW, I used 2-1/2" vacuum hose, as that was what my shop vac had. I necked down a bit on the collection tube itself so that the tube and tool combination could be grabbed in the hand comfortably. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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Vacu Gouge
Thanks Joe & Lawrence, Two examples of how to post information in an
interesting and informative style from experience. I learned something, not only about the concept & the tool, but also what a good post can be like. Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter http://community.webtv.net/almcc/MacsMusings |
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