'Fancy' lights seem to often have a need to fasten directly to the
ceiling, which is a pain as I do find loop-in type roses a nice east
way to get the various wires in place.

Do similar junction boxes exist for use in the space above the ceiling?
The MK et al ones in my various catalougues don't seem to have quite
the right capacity. I tend to move the rose up there, but don't find
it a very elegant solution.

IanC

Do similar junction boxes exist for use in the space above the ceiling?
The MK et al ones in my various catalougues don't seem to have quite
the right capacity. I tend to move the rose up there, but don't find
it a very elegant solution.

A standard round 4 way 20A terminal block is what you need. The terminals
are used for earth, neutral, switched live and perm live. They're not as
easy to wire up as the loop terminals, though, which have separate screws
for each wire, rather than a large shared one, where the other wire always
pops out when you are tightening.

Christian.

Christian McArdle wrote:
A standard round 4 way 20A terminal block is what you need. The
terminals
are used for earth, neutral, switched live and perm live. They're not
as
easy to wire up as the loop terminals, though, which have separate
screws
for each wire, rather than a large shared one, where the other wire
always
pops out when you are tightening.

Christian.

That's just the problem I always have with junction boxes. Not so much
I can't get the job done, but I do find having fewer wires per screw
raises my confidence that they're all house squarely and tightly.

There was a box in the MK catalogue (maybe a standard any brand item?)
with (IIRC) 3-blocks of quad way connectors which is a close-ish match
to what I see as the ideal. It looks like there's space in there for a
single choc-block element for the earth, or maybe joining the switched
live to the actual lamp.

My search continues...

IanC

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wrote:
There was a box in the MK catalogue (maybe a standard any brand item?)
with (IIRC) 3-blocks of quad way connectors which is a close-ish match
to what I see as the ideal.

Think most of these sort are 30 amp, so perhaps rather big for 1mm cable?

It looks like there's space in there for a
single choc-block element for the earth, or maybe joining the switched
live to the actual lamp.

There's no reason why you couldn't use an adaptable steel box with
choc-blocks of your choice.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Think most of these sort are 30 amp, so perhaps rather big for 1mm
cable?

I see what you mean. When the chance arises I'll replace the circuit
with 6mm!

There's no reason why you couldn't use an adaptable steel box with
choc-blocks of your choice.

Yep, but having a nice ready made item for the occasional bit of work I
need to do and not having to cruft something up is what I'm hoping for.

I'll take a look at what I can prepare in advance for the next occasion
using rearranged standard items...

IanC