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Is it right that the higher the cold water storage tank is above a standard vented cylinder the better pressure is available out of the hot water taps???
Is there a minimum height the tank has to be above the cylinder? |
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"pauliepie" wrote
| Is it right that the higher the cold water storage tank | is above a standard vented cylinder the better pressure | is available out of the hot water taps??? No. It is the height of the tank above the *tap* that matters. | Is there a minimum height the tank has to be above the cylinder? No; some combination tanks have the cold tank immediately above the hot, in the same assembly. Owain |
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Also if the tap is a bath mixer with shower say 1.5m long hose,this will
reduce your head of pressure at outlet For good pressure at shower head you need a minium of 1m from bottom of cold tank to the shower head,and preferably balanced pipework. |
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So if you have a standard airing cupboard with a 36x18 cylinder and a 30 gal cold water storage tank above it and the shower head on the opposite wall in the bathroom mounted the same height as the tank...It is best to move the tank in the loft!!!!
What if there is no room to put a tank in the loft, there will be 1m above the taps but not above the shower head? I guess its the same for a heating header tank, does this have to be a certain height above the top radiator/pipework. Is there a rule to say that the htg hdr tank has to be higher than the cold water tank or vice versa? Many thanks guys |
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![]() "pauliepie" wrote in message news ![]() So if you have a standard airing cupboard with a 36x18 cylinder and a 30 gal cold water storage tank above it and the shower head on the opposite wall in the bathroom mounted the same height as the tank...It is best to move the tank in the loft!!!! What if there is no room to put a tank in the loft, there will be 1m above the taps but not above the shower head? I guess its the same for a heating header tank, does this have to be a certain height above the top radiator/pipework. Is there a rule to say that the htg hdr tank has to be higher than the cold water tank or vice versa? Many thanks guys Best remove the cylinder and tank and fit a thermal store. Then high pressure hot water all around. Cheap enough from: http://www.newarkcyl.freeserve.co.uk Alos look at: http://www.mcdonald-engineers.com http://www.elsonho****er.co.uk/ (make square stirage vessels) http://www.heatweb.com (make heat banks and storage vessels to size) http://www.albion-online.co.uk (make thermal stores and stioarge vessels) http://www.range-cylinders.co.uk (make cylindrical heat banks and storage vessels. Will make to order) http://www.gledhill.net (make heat banks and storage vessels) http://www.newarkcyl.freeserve.co.uk (make cylindrical thermal stores and storage vessels. (They are quite cheap and will make to order) http://www.telford-group.com make cylindrical thermal stores and storage vessels http://www.chelmerheating.co.uk (make cylindrical thermal stores) http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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![]() "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "pauliepie" wrote in message news ![]() So if you have a standard airing cupboard with a 36x18 cylinder and a 30 gal cold water storage tank above it and the shower head on the opposite wall in the bathroom mounted the same height as the tank...It is best to move the tank in the loft!!!! What if there is no room to put a tank in the loft, there will be 1m above the taps but not above the shower head? I guess its the same for a heating header tank, does this have to be a certain height above the top radiator/pipework. Is there a rule to say that the htg hdr tank has to be higher than the cold water tank or vice versa? Many thanks guys Best remove the cylinder and tank and fit a thermal store. Then high pressure hot water all around. Cheap enough from: http://www.newarkcyl.freeserve.co.uk Or just replace the cylinder with a shower coil cylinder. This is a normal low pressure cylinder that has a dedicated shower only coil running though it at the top. The cold mains runs into the coil and is instantly heated giving a high pressure shower. You can fit a blending valve on the hot water draw-off set to 50C and have the stored water at 60, 70, 80C or whatever. A superior alternative to a power shower pump. They are also available in combination cylinders with the cold water tank and hot water cylinder combined, eliminating tanks in the loft. Alsp look at: http://www.mcdonald-engineers.com http://www.elsonho****er.co.uk/ (make square stirage vessels) http://www.heatweb.com (make heat banks and storage vessels to size) http://www.albion-online.co.uk (make thermal stores and stioarge vessels) http://www.range-cylinders.co.uk (make cylindrical heat banks and storage vessels. Will make to order) http://www.gledhill.net (make heat banks and storage vessels) http://www.newarkcyl.freeserve.co.uk (make cylindrical thermal stores and storage vessels. (They are quite cheap and will make to order) http://www.telford-group.com make cylindrical thermal stores and storage vessels http://www.chelmerheating.co.uk (make cylindrical thermal stores) http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/ _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:29:03 +0000, pauliepie wrote:
So if you have a standard airing cupboard with a 36x18 cylinder and a 30 gal cold water storage tank above it and the shower head on the opposite wall in the bathroom mounted the same height as the tank...It is best to move the tank in the loft!!!! What if there is no room to put a tank in the loft, there will be 1m above the taps but not above the shower head? I guess its the same for a heating header tank, does this have to be a certain height above the top radiator/pipework. Is there a rule to say that the htg hdr tank has to be higher than the cold water tank or vice versa? That is if you have a loft... The htg hdr tank can be above or below or on a level with the cold storage cistern. However see my SealedCH FAQ below. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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Thanks
I just always thought that yes with the cold water storage tank, the higher the tank is above the highest tap/shower the better the cold water pressure is coming out the taps/shower, but I cant get my head round the pressure from a vented hot water cylinder. So is it right a cylinder can be fitted either on the ground floor, first floor or a loft in a 3 bedroom semi detatched house just as long as the mcw tank is above the highest tap in the house! If the cylinder was on the ground floor with the tank in the loft would the hot water outlet be better on a first floor bathroom? look forward to any replies thanks |
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