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Ed Rear
 
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Just bought a new bathroom suite where the tap holes are in the middle of
one side. I was going to fit it with the taps against the wall, but I'm a
bit worried about access to the pipework if there are any problems in the
future. I did consider having the taps on the front side, but feel they may
look odd, or be in the way. I have seen taps fitted at the back quite often,
so any comments?
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Ed Rear wrote:

Just bought a new bathroom suite where the tap holes are in the middle of
one side. I was going to fit it with the taps against the wall, but I'm a
bit worried about access to the pipework if there are any problems in the
future. I did consider having the taps on the front side, but feel they may
look odd, or be in the way. I have seen taps fitted at the back quite often,
so any comments?


It comes down to luck really - do you think that, for the life of
the system you will never need access? Having the taps in what
you consider might be a less pleasing location is the price for
not having to rip the bathroom apart if there is a problem.

Probably a bit late now, but my system uses a bath filler fed via
a diverter from the thermostatic valve it shares with the shower.
it needs a high pressure supply, but there are no taps at all,
and you just set the temperature and let the bath fill.

Chris
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Ed Rear wrote:

Just bought a new bathroom suite where the tap holes are in the middle of
one side. I was going to fit it with the taps against the wall, but I'm a
bit worried about access to the pipework if there are any problems in the
future. I did consider having the taps on the front side, but feel they
may
look odd, or be in the way. I have seen taps fitted at the back quite
often,
so any comments?



I have a similar bath that I installed over 5 years ago. I have it so the
taps are on the front side just incase of any problems, none so far, it
looks OK and nobody has commented otherwise. I have seen these types of
baths installed with the taps against the wall and a 'hatch' cut through
from the other side of the wall and then covered over with something
suitable, so quick (and tidy) access could be made if necessary. Obviously
this will be dependant upon your room layouts and structure of your walls, I
wouldn't like to do this through a brick wall but a stoothing wall at the
back of a built in wardrobe (or behind one), now that's a different kettle
of fish...

HTH

John


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Ed Rear wrote:

Just bought a new bathroom suite where the tap holes are in the middle of
one side. I was going to fit it with the taps against the wall, but I'm a
bit worried about access to the pipework if there are any problems in the
future. I did consider having the taps on the front side, but feel they
may
look odd, or be in the way. I have seen taps fitted at the back quite
often,
so any comments?


I have a similar bath that I installed over 5 years ago. I have it so the
taps are on the front side just incase of any problems, none so far, it
looks OK and nobody has commented otherwise. I have seen these types of
baths installed with the taps against the wall and a 'hatch' cut through
from the other side of the wall and then covered over with something
suitable, so quick (and tidy) access could be made if necessary. Obviously
this will be dependant upon your room layouts and structure of your walls, I
wouldn't like to do this through a brick wall but a stoothing wall at the
back of a built in wardrobe (or behind one), now that's a different kettle
of fish...

HTH

John


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"John" wrote in message
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Ed Rear wrote:

Just bought a new bathroom suite where the tap holes are in the middle of
one side. I was going to fit it with the taps against the wall, but I'm a
bit worried about access to the pipework if there are any problems in the
future. I did consider having the taps on the front side, but feel they
may
look odd, or be in the way. I have seen taps fitted at the back quite
often,
so any comments?



I have a similar bath that I installed over 5 years ago. I have it so the
taps are on the front side just incase of any problems, none so far, it
looks OK and nobody has commented otherwise. I have seen these types of
baths installed with the taps against the wall and a 'hatch' cut through
from the other side of the wall and then covered over with something
suitable, so quick (and tidy) access could be made if necessary.
Obviously this will be dependant upon your room layouts and structure of
your walls, I wouldn't like to do this through a brick wall but a
stoothing wall at the back of a built in wardrobe (or behind one), now
that's a different kettle of fish...

HTH

John
Thanks for that John, I had thought about access from the next room, it
would be possible. I suppose I could even leave the access hatch until/if
it is needed. By the way what is a stoothing wall? Was that a typing error?
I've never come across that word or one like it.

Ed




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Ed Rear wrote:
Just bought a new bathroom suite where the tap holes are in the
middle of one side. I was going to fit it with the taps against the
wall, but I'm a bit worried about access to the pipework if there are
any problems in the future. I did consider having the taps on the
front side, but feel they may look odd, or be in the way. I have seen
taps fitted at the back quite often, so any comments?


Only that there are few things that I can imagine which would be more
painful than slipping in the bath and landing legs astride the side,
and that's slipping in the bath and landing astride the side when
there's a tap fitted there...

Otherwise, no comments!

David
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Lobster wrote:


Only that there are few things that I can imagine which would be more
painful than slipping in the bath and landing legs astride the side,
and that's slipping in the bath and landing astride the side when
there's a tap fitted there...

Specially if you do it twice! g
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"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
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Probably a bit late now, but my system uses a bath filler fed via
a diverter from the thermostatic valve it shares with the shower.
it needs a high pressure supply, but there are no taps at all,
and you just set the temperature and let the bath fill.

Chris; can you provide a little extra info?
Diverter,... shares with shower,... no taps ...
set temperature and let bath fill .
Details, details?

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Just fitted a bath exactly as you describe - taps in the middle against
the wall. I've taken a few precautions - used flexibles to connect the
last 12" to the taps, otherwise all end feed joints, and used decent
'O' rings instead of the crap fibre washers (meaning you get a good
seal at little more than finger tight), and there's a service valve for
the hot & cold where it can be got at fast. Plus, this bath appear to
bulge by about 1" - 2" where the taps are - with long arms &
determination I reckon I could get there to service any faults, at
least to use a long screwdriver to undo the two screws that hold the
tap block to the bath allowing it to be pulled upward to access the
flex connections.


Phil.

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Just fitted a bath exactly as you describe - taps in the middle against
the wall. I've taken a few precautions - used flexibles to connect the
last 12" to the taps, otherwise all end feed joints, and used decent
'O' rings instead of the crap fibre washers (meaning you get a good
seal at little more than finger tight), and there's a service valve for
the hot & cold where it can be got at fast. Plus, this bath appear to
bulge by about 1" - 2" where the taps are - with long arms &
determination I reckon I could get there to service any faults, at
least to use a long screwdriver to undo the two screws that hold the
tap block to the bath allowing it to be pulled upward to access the
flex connections.


Phil.



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Brian Sharrock wrote:

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
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Probably a bit late now, but my system uses a bath filler fed via
a diverter from the thermostatic valve it shares with the shower.
it needs a high pressure supply, but there are no taps at all,
and you just set the temperature and let the bath fill.

Chris; can you provide a little extra info?
Diverter,... shares with shower,... no taps ...
set temperature and let bath fill .
Details, details?


Right. For completeness I will try to cover the whole system.
As we went for a large capacity bath, and water capacity had to
be increased, I took the opportunity to have the whole heating
system re-vamped.

I have a Worcester Greenstar 28HE condensing boiler and a
conventional vented system. The larger hot water cylinder was
moved to the garage where we have also fitted a Monsoon twin 4
bar pump.

The outputs from this pump go to a Bristan Prism thermostatic
shower valve, mounted in the usual way.

From this the mixed output goes to a Bristan Prism 5-way
diverter. (It is hidden on their web site, searches don't turn
it up)

(If you will forgive me a quick ramble, this is where we fell
foul of Bristan's bizarre nomenclature. Their three-way valve
has two inputs (one to be blanked off) and two outputs. To get
three outputs needs a five-way valve. Go figure.)

The three outputs go to a wall mounted shower, a bath-side pencil
shower and a bath filler.

The Bristan bath filler looks like a slightly bigger pop-up
waste, and combines in one device pop-up waste control, overflow
and water inlet.

So, for a normal shower, set the diverter and turn on the shower.

We went for the Raindance Unica. This site sold us on it, and we
are very pleased with the result
http://www.hansgrohe-raindance.com/

For a bath, centre the diverter, select the temperature and just
let it fill. No fiddling with a bit more hot, a bit more cold,
oops got it wrong again.

If, having luxuriated in the bath, you want to rinse the shampoo
out of your hair, select the pencil shower, withdraw the hose out
of the bath side, and away you go. It is also handy for bath
cleaning.

It took a bit to convince the installers that what I wanted was
feasible, and even then I had to produce a piping diagram and
personally supervise every step.

The end result works well, just as we had hoped. If I have any
technical gripe, it is that the diverter does not completely seal
off the unselected outputs, so they can drip a little when not
wanted, but this is not a big problem.

There are equivalents to the parts we used available from a
number of other manufacturers, but this is clearly not yet a
mainstream solution.

Chris
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