Hi all,

In my newly done bathroom I just got a very unpleasant soil pipe whiff.
Unnerved by this I have moved the WC pan to check the waste connections.
What I found was the new wc pan flexi pipe just shoved in to the old
horizontal iron soil pipe with no seal around it!
The plumber /if you can call him that/ was aware of the need to replace
or repair the cracked collar. He did not do it thou and there is
nothing in writing about me asking him to do it.
Are there any regulations which would lay down clearly rules for tight
coupling wc pan to a soil pipe? And where to find them?

Thanks in advance

"Rafal" wrote in message
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Hi all,

In my newly done bathroom I just got a very unpleasant soil pipe whiff.
Unnerved by this I have moved the WC pan to check the waste connections.
What I found was the new wc pan flexi pipe just shoved in to the old
horizontal iron soil pipe with no seal around it!
The plumber /if you can call him that/ was aware of the need to replace
or repair the cracked collar. He did not do it thou and there is
nothing in writing about me asking him to do it.
Are there any regulations which would lay down clearly rules for tight
coupling wc pan to a soil pipe? And where to find them?

Thanks in advance



Sewer gases should never be allowed to leak into a room. These gases can be a
real danger if allowed to build up into any great quantity because they can be
very explosive. Methane Gas ring any bells ? What sort of fitting did the
plumber (?) use to connect the pan to the outflow ? it should have at least had
fins on it to grip the inside walls of the pipe and stop the gases from blowing
back into the room. A proper WC connector isn't an expensive item, especially
from any good plumbers merchants.

Just tell him that you've contacted buildings control at your local authority,
and they've told you that the WC isn't safe or healthy to use in that condition.
If this threat doesn't make him do the job properly, then do contact building
control and show them what this idiot has done. They should be able to give
written confirmation of the regulations that need to be enforced. Then you can
show the plumber (?) that your threats are not idle ones.

To stop any gases blowing into the room until you get the plumber back, just
pack some tightly twisted clothes in the gaps between the pipes. But remember
to tell the buildings control people that is was you that had to put clothes
there to stop the smells.


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"BigWallop" wrote in message
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Sewer gases should never be allowed to leak into a room. These gases can
be a
real danger if allowed to build up into any great quantity because they
can be
very explosive. Methane Gas ring any bells ? What sort of fitting did
the
plumber (?) use to connect the pan to the outflow ? it should have at
least had
fins on it to grip the inside walls of the pipe and stop the gases from
blowing
back into the room. A proper WC connector isn't an expensive item,
especially
from any good plumbers merchants.

Just tell him that you've contacted buildings control at your local
authority,
and they've told you that the WC isn't safe or healthy to use in that
condition.
If this threat doesn't make him do the job properly, then do contact
building
control and show them what this idiot has done. They should be able to
give
written confirmation of the regulations that need to be enforced. Then
you can
show the plumber (?) that your threats are not idle ones.

To stop any gases blowing into the room until you get the plumber back,
just
pack some tightly twisted clothes in the gaps between the pipes. But
remember
to tell the buildings control people that is was you that had to put
clothes
there to stop the smells.


Thank you very much for this extensive reply.
I spoke to him again and he insists that the convoluted pipe positioned
in the iron soil pipe has rubber fin gasket which should seal off any gaps.
I told him that this may be the case but if the pipe twists easily when I
push it
with two fingers the seal is not sufficient and requires additional sealing
perhaps with mastic or something like that.
He replayed that hi did not manufacture any of those parts, they made
to British standard and I can basically f..k off.
So looks like I am indeed off but to Lambeth Building Control office
tomorrow

Rafal

"Rafal" wrote in message
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"BigWallop" wrote in message
...

Sewer gases should never be allowed to leak into a room. These gases can
be a
real danger if allowed to build up into any great quantity because they
can be
very explosive. Methane Gas ring any bells ? What sort of fitting did
the
plumber (?) use to connect the pan to the outflow ? it should have at
least had
fins on it to grip the inside walls of the pipe and stop the gases from
blowing
back into the room. A proper WC connector isn't an expensive item,
especially
from any good plumbers merchants.

Just tell him that you've contacted buildings control at your local
authority,
and they've told you that the WC isn't safe or healthy to use in that
condition.
If this threat doesn't make him do the job properly, then do contact
building
control and show them what this idiot has done. They should be able to
give
written confirmation of the regulations that need to be enforced. Then
you can
show the plumber (?) that your threats are not idle ones.

To stop any gases blowing into the room until you get the plumber back,
just
pack some tightly twisted clothes in the gaps between the pipes. But
remember
to tell the buildings control people that is was you that had to put
clothes
there to stop the smells.


Thank you very much for this extensive reply.
I spoke to him again and he insists that the convoluted pipe positioned
in the iron soil pipe has rubber fin gasket which should seal off any gaps.
I told him that this may be the case but if the pipe twists easily when I
push it
with two fingers the seal is not sufficient and requires additional sealing
perhaps with mastic or something like that.
He replayed that hi did not manufacture any of those parts, they made
to British standard and I can basically f..k off.
So looks like I am indeed off but to Lambeth Building Control office
tomorrow

Rafal



If the pipe is allowing smells to blow back into the room, then it isn't very
tightly fitted at all, is it ? Did you tell the plumber that the smells are bad
from the pipe ? If you've explained everything to the plumber that you're not
happy with, then your next step is the building control. Well done on standing
up for your rights.


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