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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:59:38 -0000, "Peter Scott"
wrote: Where do lost scissors go? Not to mention Stanley knives. And steel tape measures. -- Frank Erskine |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Peter Scott" wrote in message ... Where do lost scissors go? A planet similar to the one to which biros flee? I once saw a calculation about needles and pins. This sad character had found out the annual production of UK factories and then wondered why we are not constantly falling over them. I found a needle in the grden the other day. It was rusty so in a fit of recklessness I put it in the dustbin. It had some black thread in it ... perhaps I should fish it out ... a bit of WD40 and some fine emery paper .... Mary Peter Scott I hope you meant recycle bin! Peter Scott |
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"Peter Scott" wrote in message news  "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... "Peter Scott" wrote in message ... Where do lost scissors go? A planet similar to the one to which biros flee? I once saw a calculation about needles and pins. This sad character had found out the annual production of UK factories and then wondered why we are not constantly falling over them. I found a needle in the grden the other day. It was rusty so in a fit of recklessness I put it in the dustbin. It had some black thread in it ... perhaps I should fish it out ... a bit of WD40 and some fine emery paper ... Mary Peter Scott I hope you meant recycle bin! No sharps allowed in ours :-( Mary Peter Scott |
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"Frank Erskine" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:59:38 -0000, "Peter Scott" wrote: Where do lost scissors go? Not to mention Stanley knives. And steel tape measures. All kinds of tape measures - including rulers. Mary -- Frank Erskine |
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"Peter Scott" wrote in message ... 13. You've got the plumber's, electrician's and builder's mobile numbers in your phone in case of a DIY feck up. No chance! A real diyer knows feckups happen and is equipped to deal with them all if they do. Its just part of the job. And why do onlookers get so overexcited about it? Shh! You don't know who's reading this. I assumed that all DIYers kept quiet about the fact that they sometimes (?) make mistakes, occasionally expensive ones. After all we can can always bluff our way out to the loved ones as we high-tail it to the merchants to replace the blown-up or wrong-sized. I think that there is a new coming of age for the offspring of DIYers. My youngest son has just had his trouser leg rolled up and the apron put on (figuratively speaking). He is now so skilled that I told him the eternal secret. 'If you can see that something needs doing I now trust you to do it. If you muck it up don't worry, I DO IT TOO!.' (Sorry about caps but this is earth shattering stuff! Now that is a real coming of age. Keep your bar Mitvah, first hangover or hunting ritual. BTW I also told him about the Easter Bunny and Father Christmas at the same time. Spouse couldn't wait for our sons' rites of passage. They were barely walking when he handed them a spanner. I'd have done the same with the girls except that it had to wait until I found the scissors ... Mary Peter Scott |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Spouse couldn't wait for our sons' rites of passage. They were barely walking when he handed them a spanner. I'd have done the same with the girls except that it had to wait until I found the scissors ... Come to think of it same son always used to nick my tools, let alone give them to him. From about age four he would always grab any things that no longer worked and take them to bits. I knew he had the makings when he could put them back together. However.... we did have our blowups when he didn't bring the tools back. He got to recognise the pitch of bellow from me when looking in my tool case and used to come scurrying. Perhaps this is the way to protect the great DIY tradition? Like the Jesuits, get em young? Anyway for those not yet embarked on sibling training, it is worth the effort because if I leave a job long enough he sometimes does it, and often better than me. Peter Scott |
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Anyway for those not yet embarked on sibling training, it is worth the effort because if I leave a job long enough he sometimes does it, and often better than me. Didn't mean 'sibling' of course. Substitute brat or offspring! Peter Scott |
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"Peter Scott" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message et... Spouse couldn't wait for our sons' rites of passage. They were barely walking when he handed them a spanner. I'd have done the same with the girls except that it had to wait until I found the scissors ... Come to think of it same son always used to nick my tools, let alone give them to him. From about age four he would always grab any things that no longer worked and take them to bits. I knew he had the makings when he could put them back together. However.... we did have our blowups when he didn't bring the tools back. He got to recognise the pitch of bellow from me when looking in my tool case and used to come scurrying. Perhaps this is the way to protect the great DIY tradition? Like the Jesuits, get em young? It's worked with ours. But the taking-apart syndrome can be almost disastrous. The number of radios, clocks etc. which have been taken apart then, in true d-i-y tradition, one little bit lost ... Spouse was never amused, I kept a special oil for troubled waters. That particular son is coming for dinner today with his brood for a substitute Christmas. His present - a hammer drill. One of his sons left his garage window open and some tools took flight. Come-uppance time :-) Anyway for those not yet embarked on sibling training, it is worth the effort because if I leave a job long enough he sometimes does it, and often better than me. It's even more useful the older you get. You can feign frailty and they leap in to do it. You can tidy up the bits you don't like when they've gone :-) Mary Peter Scott |
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Roger wrote:
The message from Andrew Chesters contains these words: Sounds good to me - but how often do you find scerws that werent driven home? NT Seldom, but whatever was screwed on could have rotted away. I haven't been paying much attention to this thread but I don't think anyone has mentioned the easy way to get a screw out if you don't much care about the damage. First line up the claw with the screwhead. Take a second hammer and belt face of first hammer until claw is under head. Extract as for nail. I hope you wear your safety goggles when you do that!! Hammer heads are hardened to the extent that shattering would be a _very real possibility_. |
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It's worked with ours. But the taking-apart syndrome can be almost disastrous. The number of radios, clocks etc. which have been taken apart then, in true d-i-y tradition, one little bit lost ... Spouse was never amused, I kept a special oil for troubled waters. That particular son is coming for dinner today with his brood for a substitute Christmas. His present - a hammer drill. One of his sons left his garage window open and some tools took flight. Come-uppance time :-) Anyway for those not yet embarked on sibling training, it is worth the effort because if I leave a job long enough he sometimes does it, and often better than me. It's even more useful the older you get. You can feign frailty and they leap in to do it. You can tidy up the bits you don't like when they've gone :-) Mary Male pride will not allow this I am afraid. However the 'Son you're a real man now. You kin do jest lark yer ole pappy.' That does Peter Scott |
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I know I'm going to regret this, but ... I still have the Stanley knife I
bought some 30 years ago. Me too although not that old. Must buy some new blades. |
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Shh! You don't know who's reading this. I assumed that all DIYers kept
quiet about the fact that they sometimes (?) make mistakes, occasionally expensive I made the classic comedy mistake/event of climbing back down the ladder and putting my foot in a bucket of cold water. |
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On 30 Jan 2005, Rob Nicholson wrote
Shh! You don't know who's reading this. I assumed that all DIYers kept quiet about the fact that they sometimes (?) make mistakes, occasionally expensive I made the classic comedy mistake/event of climbing back down the ladder and putting my foot in a bucket of cold water. I'm getting better at avoiding this one, but my repeating mistake -- annoying, not expensive -- is wiring something up before realising I've not strung the cover/cap/whatever on the cable. Done that *way* too many times. -- Cheers, Harvey |
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Done that *way* too many times.
Did it once with a 25 way serial connector years ago and never since! |
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On 30 Jan 2005, Rob Nicholson wrote
Done that *way* too many times. Did it once with a 25 way serial connector years ago and never since! Maybe if I'd done that, it would've sunk in.  (I last did it a few weeks ago making up a coax cable; simple enough to correct, but still reelie stoopid.) -- Cheers, Harvey |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:57:20 GMT, "Mark" strung
together this: Im still using a Wolf elec drill from c1950, excellent plaster mixer. My mate uses one of those as a core drill. Not reconnended for working at the top of a ladder! -- SJW Please reply to group or use 'usenet' in email subject |
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Huge wrote:
"Rob Nicholson" writes: Shh! You don't know who's reading this. I assumed that all DIYers kept quiet about the fact that they sometimes (?) make mistakes, occasionally expensive I made the classic comedy mistake/event of climbing back down the ladder and putting my foot in a bucket of cold water. Have you ever dipped the paintbrush in the cup of coffee? That's marginally better than drinking from the paint-pot. Not that my DIY has ever got that bad. Andrew |
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In article ,
"Mark" writes: Huge typed: "Bob Eager" writes: On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:54:12 UTC, (Huge) wrote: Not to mention Stanley knives. And steel tape measures. I know I'm going to regret this, but ... I still have the Stanley knife I bought some 30 years ago. One of the good old ones, I guess. Mine is only 25 years old...but I have the Stanley hand drill I bought 40 years ago...I think it is the only tool that has survived that long! I still have a Stanley pump-action screwdriver of the same vintage. Ouch Yankee screwdrivers need a safety warning as Huge as a chainsaw. Im still using a Wolf elec drill from c1950, excellent plaster mixer. My father still has his 1950's B&D drill. Sometime around 1960, it was treated to a new set of windings courtesy of the electricity board, when they changed the mains voltage from 200V to 240V in Reading. They over-stamped the voltage plate, so you can see it has been changed. I think my Stanley knife is about 30 years old. Also, one of the best screwdrivers I've ever had is now 35 years old. It is a Meccano screwdriver which came with the chiming clock kit. It has a very comfortable handle (used to say Meccano on it, but it's almost completely rubbed off), and seems to be a nice quality steal tip. I have reground it twice now, once after a slight accident shorting out the ring circuit which blow the tip off, and again after general wear, and it came up very nicely each time. I also still have the Meccano clock although it's in need of a few replacement parts. ;-) -- Andrew Gabriel |
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In article ,
Andrew Chesters writes: Huge wrote: "Rob Nicholson" writes: I made the classic comedy mistake/event of climbing back down the ladder and putting my foot in a bucket of cold water. I've done that more than once whilst plastering, so it's the bucket with the plaster slop in the bottom, and usually gets tipped over in the process... Have you ever dipped the paintbrush in the cup of coffee? That's marginally better than drinking from the paint-pot. Not that my DIY has ever got that bad. Had a school friend who was in to developing his own photos with a dark room at home. In the dark, he knocked over a jar of fixer (or one of the other chemicals, not sure I ever knew quite which). Anyway, when he'd got the lights back on and finished clearing up the spillage, he finished off his mug of tea. Only after he swallowed it did he realise it tasted off -- some of the chemical had spilt into it. He was ill for about a year after that before eventually recovering and returning to school. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember (Andrew Gabriel) saying something like: Had a school friend who was in to developing his own photos with a dark room at home. In the dark, he knocked over a jar of fixer (or one of the other chemicals, not sure I ever knew quite which). Anyway, when he'd got the lights back on and finished clearing up the spillage, he finished off his mug of tea. Only after he swallowed it did he realise it tasted off -- some of the chemical had spilt into it. He was ill for about a year after that before eventually recovering and returning to school. Ah yes. Blithely unaware of the toxicity of developers and fixers, I was happily messing around developing films and prints at an early age. Just as well nobody else seemed to be aware of the dangers, else my hobby may have been curtailed. The old sodium metabisulphite fixer doesn't seem to be particularly dangerous if swallowed, so perhaps he knocked back some developer. Doing a google brings up some interesting stuff in relation to some toxic developers. This one's nasty... http://www.setonresourcecenter.com/m...a/wcd01ade.htm Even the old ID11 Ilford b&w developer isn't something you'd want to swallow... http://www.ilford.com/html/us_englis...s/04410071.pdf -- Dave |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... Lurch typed: On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:57:20 GMT, "Mark" strung together this: Im still using a Wolf elec drill from c1950, excellent plaster mixer. My mate uses one of those as a core drill. Not reconnended for working at the top of a ladder! indeed their heavy solid aluminium and indestructible, don't spin very fast but enough torque to lift you off your feet if it stalls. Fabulous for mixing plaster but im not brave enough to drill anything with it. It belonged to my father, ive also got some moulding planes that belonged to my grandfather. Well I have some ... Hey! Don't you think this would make a good - separate - thread? Mary |
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"Peter Scott" wrote in message ... It's even more useful the older you get. You can feign frailty and they leap in to do it. You can tidy up the bits you don't like when they've gone :-) Mary Male pride will not allow this I am afraid. However the 'Son you're a real man now. You kin do jest lark yer ole pappy.' That does Tell you what, I've just waved off No1 grandson. He knows even more than his father, our son. I can get him to do anything I want! Mary Peter Scott |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... Had a school friend who was in to developing his own photos with a dark room at home. In the dark, he knocked over a jar of fixer (or one of the other chemicals, not sure I ever knew quite which). Anyway, when he'd got the lights back on and finished clearing up the spillage, he finished off his mug of tea. Only after he swallowed it did he realise it tasted off -- some of the chemical had spilt into it. He was ill for about a year after that before eventually recovering and returning to school. That reminds me of Letters From a Lost Uncle (Mervyn Peake) in which the hero relates that on his first day at school he drank so much ink that he was too ill to go again until the time he left. Mary -- Andrew Gabriel |
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"Lurch" wrote
| Have you ever dipped the paintbrush in the cup of coffee? | I've poured orange juice on my corn flakes and milk in the | glass before, does that count? I once confused the little sachets in a fast-food restaurant. Salty tea is not nice, but the chips were okay :-) Owain |
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"Owain" writes: "Lurch" wrote | Have you ever dipped the paintbrush in the cup of coffee? | I've poured orange juice on my corn flakes and milk in the | glass before, does that count? I once confused the little sachets in a fast-food restaurant. Salty tea is not nice, but the chips were okay :-) That reminds me -- one of my grandmothers baking a cake when staying with my parents. Suddenly noticed she had just carefully measured out 1/2 lb of dishwasher detergent (fortunately before it went into the mixing bowl)... -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Just as well nobody else seemed to be aware of the dangers, else my
hobby may have been curtailed. The old sodium metabisulphite fixer doesn't seem to be particularly dangerous if swallowed, so perhaps he knocked back some developer. Doing a google brings up some interesting stuff in relation =ADto some toxic developers. Didnt take long to realise you can do anything if you dont tell the grown ups. We mucked about with blueprinting, which is a cyanide based process. At least the developer is only tap water. http://216.239.59.104/search?q=3Dcac...edu/~mollusk/= ChemArt/photo/cyanotype.html+blueprint+cyanide&hl=3Den NT |
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"Owain" wrote in message t... "Lurch" wrote | Have you ever dipped the paintbrush in the cup of coffee? | I've poured orange juice on my corn flakes and milk in the | glass before, does that count? I once confused the little sachets in a fast-food restaurant. Salty tea is not nice, but the chips were okay :-) Sounds as though you're older than I thought ... :-) Mary Owain |
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Paul Mc Cann wrote:
My mother once complained that one of the crisps in her bag was very salty. Turned out she had eaten the little blue twist of salt. Now, who remembers them ? I do. Last year I bought a packet of chips (Walker's, but subtitled SmITh's) which contained a little blue plasticy packet of salt. The twists were much easier to open. Sheila |
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My mother once complained that one of the crisps in her bag was very salty. Turned out she had eaten the little blue twist of salt. Now, who remembers them ? MEMEME! er -what do you mean, remember them? You can still buy crisps, I've seen the empty bags blowing around in the street ... Mary -- Paul Mc Cann |
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In message , Paul Mc Cann
writes In article , says... My mother once complained that one of the crisps in her bag was very salty. Turned out she had eaten the little blue twist of salt. Now, who remembers them ? Oh yes - 4d a packet -- geoff |
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"Paul Mc Cann" wrote in message .. . In article , says... In message , Paul Mc Cann writes In article , says... My mother once complained that one of the crisps in her bag was very salty. Turned out she had eaten the little blue twist of salt. Now, who remembers them ? Oh yes - 4d a packet Bar of Cowans toffee was 3d, chocolate version was 4d Never heard of that. I just about remember Five Boys chocolate. What a great name, and the heads of 5 boys on the packet. They knew more about marketing then. Bar of Cadburys was 6d, Mars bar 6d. Trouble was weekly pocket money was 6d ! I had a friend who used to main line oxo cubes. Ate them straight out of the little silver paper cube they came in. _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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"S Viemeister" wrote in message ... Paul Mc Cann wrote: My mother once complained that one of the crisps in her bag was very salty. Turned out she had eaten the little blue twist of salt. Now, who remembers them ? I do. Last year I bought a packet of chips (Walker's, but subtitled SmITh's) which contained a little blue plasticy packet of salt. The twists were much easier to open. Yes but the salt was nearly always damp in the packets from our village shop when I were a lad |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Paul Mc Cann writes In article , says... My mother once complained that one of the crisps in her bag was very salty. Turned out she had eaten the little blue twist of salt. Now, who remembers them ? Oh yes - 4d a packet Do you remember the vans that carried the packets of crisps in tin cube boxes? Long before the advent of motorways when even 'major' highways were narrow and overtaking was a 'takes-yer-chance' operation; the Smith's Crisps vans had writing at the top rear offside which IIRC stated;- "We wish to extend the Courtesy of the Road if you wish to overtake please sound your horn" Those were the days ... courtesy and twisted blue wrapped salt! -- Brian |
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"http://tinyurl.com/7y8y4" wrote in message ... Bar of Cowans toffee was 3d, chocolate version was 4d Never heard of that. I just about remember Five Boys chocolate. What a great name, and the heads of 5 boys on the packet. They knew more about marketing then. So why is Mars still sold and 5 boys not? Mary who doesn't like Mars by the way |
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