At some point in the past someone has overenthusiatically sanded the
window frames of my house, and managed to put small scratches around
the edges of nearly all the windows. I'd like to polish the scratches
out, and I've done some research through the archives to discover that
jewellers' rouge is the stuff to get.

But I've also found this available from Screwfix
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...21851&id=30347
What do the panel think? Anyone tried it? Seems to come with quite a
small amount of 'polishing powder' and they don't sell the powder by
itself.

Or would this stuff be any good?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...22270&id=31076

"Martin Pentreath" wrote in message
om...
At some point in the past someone has overenthusiatically sanded the
window frames of my house, and managed to put small scratches around
the edges of nearly all the windows. I'd like to polish the scratches
out, and I've done some research through the archives to discover that
jewellers' rouge is the stuff to get.

But I've also found this available from Screwfix
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...21851&id=30347
What do the panel think? Anyone tried it? Seems to come with quite a
small amount of 'polishing powder' and they don't sell the powder by
itself.

Or would this stuff be any good?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...22270&id=31076

I'd go with this one http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=21851&id=30347
as the metal polishing powder might be a bit to abrasive for glass. Toothpaste on a
buffing pad is also ideal for glass because it isn't to abrasive either, and it leaves
a lovely smell in the room. :-)

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"Martin Pentreath" wrote in message
om...

At some point in the past someone has overenthusiatically sanded the
window frames of my house, and managed to put small scratches around
the edges of nearly all the windows. I'd like to polish the scratches
out, and I've done some research through the archives to discover that
jewellers' rouge is the stuff to get.

But I've also found this available from Screwfix
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...21851&id=30347
What do the panel think? Anyone tried it? Seems to come with quite a
small amount of 'polishing powder' and they don't sell the powder by
itself.

Or would this stuff be any good?
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...22270&id=31076


I'd go with this one http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=21851&id=30347
as the metal polishing powder might be a bit to abrasive for glass. Toothpaste on a
buffing pad is also ideal for glass because it isn't to abrasive either, and it leaves
a lovely smell in the room. :-)



Frost Auto Restorers sell a kit that is claimed to polish scratches out
of car windscreens etc. I don't know if my scratches are too deep or I
didn't press hard enough - little concerned that I might find out how
much a Range Rover windscreen cost! - but it didn't work for me. So I'd
love to hear how you get on with whatever you choose to use because I
still have the scratches!

Richard

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Martin Pentreath wrote:

At some point in the past someone has overenthusiatically sanded the
window frames of my house, and managed to put small scratches around
the edges of nearly all the windows. I'd like to polish the scratches
out, and I've done some research through the archives to discover that
jewellers' rouge is the stuff to get.

My Father In Law is a glass engraver, and is often asked if it is
possible to remove scratches, or change/erase the engraving on glass.
The usual answer is that while not 100% effective, you can significantly
diminish most scratches with a rubber wheel on the end of a dremmel type
tool.

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John.

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John Rumm wrote in message ...
Martin Pentreath wrote:

At some point in the past someone has overenthusiatically sanded the
window frames of my house, and managed to put small scratches around
the edges of nearly all the windows. I'd like to polish the scratches
out, and I've done some research through the archives to discover that
jewellers' rouge is the stuff to get.

My Father In Law is a glass engraver, and is often asked if it is
possible to remove scratches, or change/erase the engraving on glass.
The usual answer is that while not 100% effective, you can significantly
diminish most scratches with a rubber wheel on the end of a dremmel type
tool.

You mean with rouge on it?

Regards, NT

John Rumm wrote in message
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My Father In Law is a glass engraver, and is often asked if it is
possible to remove scratches, or change/erase the engraving on glass.
The usual answer is that while not 100% effective, you can significantly
diminish most scratches with a rubber wheel on the end of a dremmel type
tool.

Looks like the "bobbins" in
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...21851&id=30347
are just rubber wheels.

I wonder whether the white powder is cerium oxide. I'm planning to order a
kit once I've got enough other stuff on my shopping list to get the order up
to £45 for free delivery ;-) I'll report back on progress.

N. Thornton wrote:

My Father In Law is a glass engraver, and is often asked if it is
possible to remove scratches, or change/erase the engraving on glass.
The usual answer is that while not 100% effective, you can significantly
diminish most scratches with a rubber wheel on the end of a dremmel type
tool.


You mean with rouge on it?

I will ask - I have a feeling that he just uses a (hard) rubber wheel on
its own. Having said that, most of the glass he is polishing is very
soft (i.e. 24% lead crystal).

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John.

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John Rumm wrote:

I will ask - I have a feeling that he just uses a (hard) rubber wheel on
its own. Having said that, most of the glass he is polishing is very
soft (i.e. 24% lead crystal).

I asked my FIL (http://www.bertcollis.co.uk/engrave.htm) about hard
glass (i.e. normal window glass) in particular, and this is the response:-

"Removing scratches from plain glass is a) difficult, B) tedious, c)
time consuming. To do it properly (ie successfully) one needs a set of
felt cones impregnated with diminishing sizes of polishing grits in
paste form.

Endless patience is essential. ( I have a small kit of polishes and felt
tips but not the patience!) Personally I only polish out engraving or
scratches if I am going to re engrave the affected area since one is of
course altering the surface level and thus the angles of reflection.
There is a man in Purleigh who specialises in repairing scratched or
broken glassware and he has a whole armoury of powered discs and belts."

So there you have it!

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John.

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Martin Pentreath wrote in message
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Looks like the "bobbins" in
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...21851&id=30347
are just rubber wheels.

I wonder whether the white powder is cerium oxide. I'm planning to order a
kit once I've got enough other stuff on my shopping list to get the order
up
to £45 for free delivery ;-) I'll report back on progress.

OK, well I've got the screwfix kit. The bobbins are made of felt, and as far
as I can tell the powder is cerium oxide. I've just spent about 30 minutes
polishing some scratches out of my windows, and it does work, although
progress is slow. The scratches I'm removing from the glass have been caused
by someone sanding the frames, and they're not particularly deep, just
annoying. Even though they aren't deep they still take quite a while to
polish out, so I wouldn't fancy doing this if the scratches were much worse.

It seems a bit mean only providing two bobbins, I'm not sure they're going
to last the course, and I don't want to shell out another £20 for two felt
bobbins! Lots, more windows to polish yet, maybe I should have just reglazed
the damn things Probably any sane person would live with scratches, I
think I'm becoming obsessive.

Martin

On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:02:20 +0100, "Martin Pentreath"
wrote:

Martin Pentreath wrote in message
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Looks like the "bobbins" in
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...21851&id=30347
are just rubber wheels.

I wonder whether the white powder is cerium oxide. I'm planning to order a
kit once I've got enough other stuff on my shopping list to get the order
up
to £45 for free delivery ;-) I'll report back on progress.

OK, well I've got the screwfix kit. The bobbins are made of felt, and as far
as I can tell the powder is cerium oxide. I've just spent about 30 minutes
polishing some scratches out of my windows, and it does work, although
progress is slow. The scratches I'm removing from the glass have been caused
by someone sanding the frames, and they're not particularly deep, just
annoying. Even though they aren't deep they still take quite a while to
polish out, so I wouldn't fancy doing this if the scratches were much worse.

It seems a bit mean only providing two bobbins, I'm not sure they're going
to last the course, and I don't want to shell out another £20 for two felt
bobbins! Lots, more windows to polish yet, maybe I should have just reglazed
the damn things Probably any sane person would live with scratches, I
think I'm becoming obsessive.

Hi,

Maybe filling the scratches with superglue, clear epoxy or windscreen
repair and polishing that out would be easier.

cheers,
Pete.