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speedfit to copper
A quick question:
I am about to replumb the entire bathroom and for ease of work (for my benefit) am going to use SpeedFit stuff for the work. However I have 4 pipes (cold,water, rad-in and rad-out) that are copper. can I get away with just using the speed fit connectors or do I have to use compression connectors for the initial connection between copper and plastic pipe? Cheers Paul |
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P.A.Osborne wrote:
I am about to replumb the entire bathroom and for ease of work (for my benefit) am going to use SpeedFit stuff for the work. However I have 4 pipes (cold,water, rad-in and rad-out) that are copper. can I get away with just using the speed fit connectors or do I have to use compression connectors for the initial connection between copper and plastic pipe? As long as the copper pipes are clean and not scratched, SpeedFit will work just fine. -- Grunff |
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IMM wrote:
Use Marley Equator. It is better. Oh for heaven's sake, just get over it. They use exactly the same sealing method. -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: Use Marley Equator. It is better. Oh for heaven's sake, just get over it. They use exactly the same sealing method. Read my post on why it is better. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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IMM wrote:
Read my post on why it is better. What, because the fittings are partially steel with steel inserts? That isn't an argument. The weakest point in a pushfit fitting is the O ring. If anything's gonna give, it'll be that. I reckon you'll get an easy 40-50 years life out of an O ring, which for most people is plenty. -- Grunff |
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Grunff wrote:
As long as the copper pipes are clean and not scratched, SpeedFit will work just fine. Thats what I wanted to hear! Thanks very much. --Paul --has a lounge full of bathroom stuff waiting to be installed now --the roof has been fixed. |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: Read my post on why it is better. What, because the fittings are partially steel with steel inserts? That isn't an argument. You know nothing of pipework. If you did you would not come out with such a silly statement. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: You know nothing of pipework. If you did you would not come out with such a silly statement. You really do genuinely believe that you know *everything*, don't you... A damn site more than you sunshine, and you had better believe it. PS I'm no amateur --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:58 UTC, "IMM" wrote:
Use Marley Equator. It is better. Given the source, Paul, I think that's a recommendation NOT to use Marley Equator.... -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325*4; PS/2s 9585, 8595, 9595*2, 8580*3, P70, PC/AT.. |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:58 UTC, "IMM" wrote: Use Marley Equator. It is better. Given the source, Paul, I think that's a recommendation NOT to use Marley Equator.... Another one...Some mothers do have em...it must be the heat wave. OK knock it off all of you, you have enough willy waving wars elsewhere on the group. Is there nowhere safe for a simple question? I wish I had asked the question as follows: I intend to use quick-installable-overpriced-but-easy-even-if-you-do-need- extra-supports plastic plumbing in the bathroom and want to connect it to copper...... --Paul --already bought the speedfit stuff on reccomendations of others --so the arguing makes no difference to me. PS: I also have a Dyson DC02 around 7 years old which works fine and dandy |
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"P.A.Osborne" wrote in message ... "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:58 UTC, "IMM" wrote: Use Marley Equator. It is better. Given the source, Paul, I think that's a recommendation NOT to use Marley Equator.... Another one...Some mothers do have em...it must be the heat wave. OK knock it off all of you, you have enough willy waving wars elsewhere on the group. Is there nowhere safe for a simple question? I wish I had asked the question as follows: I intend to use quick-installable-overpriced-but-easy-even-if-you-do-need- extra-supports plastic plumbing in the bathroom and want to connect it to copper...... --Paul --already bought the speedfit stuff on reccomendations of others --so the arguing makes no difference to me. Send it back. It is notorious for leaks when under strain and hot. When cool it may re-seal itself. Who recommend it? A DIYer? Please!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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In article , P.A.Osborne
writes OK knock it off all of you, you have enough willy waving wars elsewhere on the group. Is there nowhere safe for a simple question? I wish I had asked the question as follows: I intend to use quick-installable-overpriced-but-easy-even-if-you-do-need- extra-supports plastic plumbing in the bathroom and want to connect it to copper...... The fittings are designed to go straight to copper so no problem, I wouldn't worry too much about the sagging, it will make no difference, mine sags all over the place *and* there's sideways pressure on the joints where I've cabled the stuff, as long as you've pushed the pipe fully home it will work fine. -- David |
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"David" wrote in message ... In article , P.A.Osborne writes OK knock it off all of you, you have enough willy waving wars elsewhere on the group. Is there nowhere safe for a simple question? I wish I had asked the question as follows: I intend to use quick-installable-overpriced-but-easy-even-if-you-do-need- extra-supports plastic plumbing in the bathroom and want to connect it to copper...... The fittings are designed to go straight to copper so no problem, I wouldn't worry too much about the sagging, it will make no difference, What??? Support it at all points. In fact long length sould be fixed ona wood baton, as old lead was. Long straight lengths are best in copper. mine sags all over the place *and* there's sideways pressure on the joints where I've cabled the stuff, as long as you've pushed the pipe fully home it will work fine. What nonsense! Clip and support the right away. If there is a big leak and it is not supported correctly the insurance will not pay. I would hate to buy your house in the future. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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In article , IMM
writes "David" wrote in message .. . In article , P.A.Osborne writes OK knock it off all of you, you have enough willy waving wars elsewhere on the group. Is there nowhere safe for a simple question? I wish I had asked the question as follows: I intend to use quick-installable-overpriced-but-easy-even-if-you-do-need- extra-supports plastic plumbing in the bathroom and want to connect it to copper...... The fittings are designed to go straight to copper so no problem, I wouldn't worry too much about the sagging, it will make no difference, What??? Support it at all points. In fact long length sould be fixed ona wood baton, as old lead was. Long straight lengths are best in copper. mine sags all over the place *and* there's sideways pressure on the joints where I've cabled the stuff, as long as you've pushed the pipe fully home it will work fine. What nonsense! Clip and support the right away. If there is a big leak and it is not supported correctly the insurance will not pay. I would hate to buy your house in the future. You speak out of your arse most of the time so you're not worth getting into a discussion with -- David |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: The fittings are designed to go straight to copper so no problem, I wouldn't worry too much about the sagging, it will make no difference, What??? Support it at all points. In fact long length sould be fixed ona wood baton, as old lead was. Long straight lengths are best in copper. LOL!! Have you ever actually used the stuff? Or ever accidentally snagged a burried MDPE pipe with a digger?? The fittings are extremely robust, much more so than soldered joints. You haven't a clue. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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IMM wrote:
You haven't a clue. Faced with such a well reasoned and comprehensive argument I find myself at a total loss... -- Grunff |
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"Grunff" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: You haven't a clue. Faced with such a well reasoned and comprehensive argument I find myself at a total loss... Correct, you are a loss. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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"David" wrote in message ... In article , IMM writes "David" wrote in message .. . In article , P.A.Osborne writes OK knock it off all of you, you have enough willy waving wars elsewhere on the group. Is there nowhere safe for a simple question? I wish I had asked the question as follows: I intend to use quick-installable-overpriced-but-easy-even-if-you-do-need- extra-supports plastic plumbing in the bathroom and want to connect it to copper...... The fittings are designed to go straight to copper so no problem, I wouldn't worry too much about the sagging, it will make no difference, What??? Support it at all points. In fact long length sould be fixed ona wood baton, as old lead was. Long straight lengths are best in copper. mine sags all over the place *and* there's sideways pressure on the joints where I've cabled the stuff, as long as you've pushed the pipe fully home it will work fine. What nonsense! Clip and support the right away. If there is a big leak and it is not supported correctly the insurance will not pay. I would hate to buy your house in the future. You speak out of your arse most of the time so you're not worth getting into a discussion with What is it? I hit a raw nerve. You obviously realised you may have a big problem. Get it fixed and now. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05/06/2003 |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:38:28 UTC, "P.A.Osborne" wrote:
--Paul --already bought the speedfit stuff on reccomendations of others --so the arguing makes no difference to me. PS: I also have a Dyson DC02 around 7 years old which works fine and dandy Ah, but do you have an Aga? :-) -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325*4; PS/2s 9585, 8595, 9595*2, 8580*3, P70, PC/AT.. |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:38:28 UTC, "P.A.Osborne" wrote: --Paul --already bought the speedfit stuff on reccomendations of others --so the arguing makes no difference to me. PS: I also have a Dyson DC02 around 7 years old which works fine and dandy Ah, but do you have an Aga? :-) That would cap it all. --- -- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
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Bob Eager wrote:
--Paul --already bought the speedfit stuff on reccomendations of others --so the arguing makes no difference to me. PS: I also have a Dyson DC02 around 7 years old which works fine and dandy Ah, but do you have an Aga? :-) No, can't say that I want one either. --Paul --imm wondering where my killfile has got to... |
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