I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to
show her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the
toilet cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via
the in line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set
from a Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools
we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:50:40 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to
show her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the
toilet cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via
the in line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set
from a Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools
we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

My daughters have the "IKEA" tool set, 4 screwdrivers, hammer, pliers.

Rick

Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.

I`ll start the list...

Screwdrivers (flat headed and posidrive)
Pliers
Gland pliers
Claw hammer
Adjustable spanner (small + large)
A box of assorted screws
Scraper (for wallpapering)
A sponge (ditto)
A drill (a cheap corded one would probably do you fine)
A few different drill bits (masonry / metal / wood)

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I'd add a mini mole wrench (with lessons if necessary) and explain how much
easier cross-point screws are than slotted. Given the amount of stuff held
together with allen keys, perhaps a set of them (e.g. the Screwfix ball end
ones). Oh, and plumbers two part epoxy sticks. And some rolls of PVC tape.
Araldite. PVA adhesive if they are going to do any decorating. And a
stud/wire detector if they go for the drill and masonry bits.

"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
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Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.

I`ll start the list...

Screwdrivers (flat headed and posidrive)
Pliers
Gland pliers
Claw hammer
Adjustable spanner (small + large)
A box of assorted screws
Scraper (for wallpapering)
A sponge (ditto)
A drill (a cheap corded one would probably do you fine)
A few different drill bits (masonry / metal / wood)

selection raw plugs
pencil
spirit level
your phone numbers
no nails
mastic gun
masking tape

your phone numbers

LOL

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Broadback wrote:
I am renovating a small house for my daughter. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit?

http://terrisfp.com/sue/tools.html

In k,
Space_Cowby wrote:
"Colin Wilson" wrote in message
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Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.

I`ll start the list...

Screwdrivers (flat headed and posidrive)
Pliers
Gland pliers
Claw hammer
Adjustable spanner (small + large)
A box of assorted screws
Scraper (for wallpapering)
A sponge (ditto)
A drill (a cheap corded one would probably do you fine)
A few different drill bits (masonry / metal / wood)

selection raw plugs
pencil
spirit level
your phone numbers
no nails
mastic gun
masking tape

gaffer tape
- screwdrivers with suregrip handles, please. (or rechargeable)
awl
craft knife
torch
rule

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Hi,

This sort of thing is a reasonable start, it sometimes is on sale for
£30 which makes it a good buy IMHO:

http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=2501&productId=102471&clickfrom=name

Or have a trawl through Froogle to get some ideas:

http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=%22tool+kit%22&scoring=p&sa=N

cheers,
Pete.

"Broadback" wrote in message
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I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to show
her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the toilet
cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via the in line
isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set from a Christmas
cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a useful, comprehensive but
not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools we should but to make up a
kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

All the suggestions are good - but the most essential tool is the knowledge
of how to use any of the others ...

Mary

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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"Broadback" wrote in message
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I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to show
her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the toilet
cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via the in
line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set from a
Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a useful,
comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools we should
but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

All the suggestions are good - but the most essential tool is the
knowledge of how to use any of the others ...

Mary

Add..... oh, god, it's MF, ok, you know the score... a cheap (horrible) DIY
basics book

Mary Fisher wrote:

All the suggestions are good - but the most essential tool is the knowledge
of how to use any of the others ...

A copy of the Collins manual should help.

Sheila

"Broadback" wrote in message
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I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to show
her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the toilet
cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via the in line
isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set from a Christmas
cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a useful, comprehensive but
not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools we should but to make up a
kit, at reasonable expense.

I would keep it as simple as possible. A medium size flat blade screwdriver,
a No 2 Posidrive screwdriver, a 4oz cross pein hammer, a pair of pliers, a
pair of pincers, a junior hacksaw, a Stanley knife and an adjustable
spanner. If you can trust her with things electrical, add an insulated
terminal screwdriver and a pair of insulated wire cutters. That, with a reel
of gaffer tape, a reel of electrician's insulating tape and some general
purpose glue is the emergency tool kit I keep at my lady friend's place. It
will deal with most common problems and can be expanded as she gains
knowledge / confidence.

Colin Bignell

Broadback wrote:

I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to
show her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the
toilet cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via
the in line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set
from a Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools
we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

Buy what you need when you actually need it. That way yo never end up
with tools that are not useful, and save money.

The first thing she needs is a box or bag to put them in.

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:05:50 -0000, Colin Wilson
wrote:

Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.

I`ll start the list...

Screwdrivers (flat headed and posidrive)
Pliers
Gland pliers
Claw hammer
Adjustable spanner (small + large)
A box of assorted screws
Scraper (for wallpapering)
A sponge (ditto)
A drill (a cheap corded one would probably do you fine)
A few different drill bits (masonry / metal / wood)

+ Woodsaw
+ Hacksaw
+ Assortment of tap washers
+ Emergency pipe repair tape/putty

Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable
expense.

Roll of Duck Tape, can of WD40.

Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
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Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable
expense.

Roll of Duck Tape, can of WD40.

Dave

I hadn't thought of WD40 (being resourceful, like most women - we have to
be - I use other substances for freeing stuck stuff) but
gaffer/duck/whatever tape is a must.

It's wonderful for taping up big mouths.

Mary

Sorry, that subject line has set me off, I must have been watching too much
Little Britain.

Scene: B&Q, a miserable underpaid assistant is stacking the shelves.

Enter one flouncey, dodgy-looking woman in a flowing white dress, false
eyelashes and too much makeup.

Lady: Falsetto voice Could you possibly tell me where I can find
implements suitable for maintaining the residence of a lady?

Assistant: What's wrong wiv yer 'ouse, mate?

Lady: How could I possibly know? I am a lady. Perhaps it needs some
stencilled motifs in the front passage.

etc, etc

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Broadback wrote:

I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to
show her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the
toilet cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via
the in line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set
from a Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools
we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

Buy what you need when you actually need it. That way yo never end up
with tools that are not useful, and save money.
True.
And when you have to replace the ceiling because you couldn't find a
screwdriver to turn off an inline shut-off valve, when no shops were open
at 3AM on a sunday morning, you'll be glad you can put the 3.99 towards the
several hundred pounds plumbers and plasterers bill.

"Mary Fisher" wrote
| gaffer/duck/whatever tape is a must.
| It's wonderful for taping up big mouths.
| Before anyone feels slighted - I meant children's mouths.

You're not allowed to do that any more Mary.

Now go and let the grandchildren out of the cellar ...

Owain

Ian Stirling wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Broadback wrote:


I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to
show her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the
toilet cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via
the in line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set
from a Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools
we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

Buy what you need when you actually need it. That way yo never end up
with tools that are not useful, and save money.

True.
And when you have to replace the ceiling because you couldn't find a
screwdriver to turn off an inline shut-off valve, when no shops were open
at 3AM on a sunday morning, you'll be glad you can put the 3.99 towards the
several hundred pounds plumbers and plasterers bill.

One assumes that you would have considered the purchase of a screwdriver
before tackling such a project.

Or had the presence of mind to use a kitchen knife.

Or not started teh job at 3 a.m. om a Sunday.

Some people are simply too stupid to tackle DIY.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Broadback wrote:


I am renovating a small house for my daughter, as I go along I try to
show her basic house maintenance. Yesterday she had a problem with the
toilet cistern, and following my instructions turned off the water via
the in line isolating valve, all she had to hand was a screwdriver set
from a Christmas cracker. So any ideas as to where we could get a
useful, comprehensive but not too sophisticated tool kit? Or what tools
we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable expense.
TIA

Buy what you need when you actually need it. That way yo never end up
with tools that are not useful, and save money.

True.
And when you have to replace the ceiling because you couldn't find a
screwdriver to turn off an inline shut-off valve, when no shops were open
at 3AM on a sunday morning, you'll be glad you can put the 3.99 towards the
several hundred pounds plumbers and plasterers bill.
snip
Some people are simply too stupid to tackle DIY.

I was referring to an accident, needing a screwdriver (or other tool) urgently.

For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would have
been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare glass) that
broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have lost 10-20
panes.
Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so weather window at 6PM would
have been difficult, if not impossible.

The 5 quid glasscutter saved up to 100 quids worth of glass being purchased.

In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:
For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.

I personally don't like having glass lying around.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:
For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.

And cut it with?
And got it from?

I personally don't like having glass lying around.

Ian Stirling wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:

For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.


And cut it with?

Dressmakers scissors

And got it from?

Old cardboard boxes or cereal packets.



I personally don't like having glass lying around.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:

For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.


And cut it with?

Dressmakers scissors

And got it from?

Old cardboard boxes or cereal packets.

And you'd expect that to stand up to gusts of 90MPH driving rain?

Ian Stirling wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Ian Stirling wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:


In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:


For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.


And cut it with?

Dressmakers scissors


And got it from?

Old cardboard boxes or cereal packets.


And you'd expect that to stand up to gusts of 90MPH driving rain?

Certainly.

Trabants did. :-)

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:26:14 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Dave" wrote in message
roups.com...
Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable
expense.

Roll of Duck Tape, can of WD40.

Dave

I hadn't thought of WD40 (being resourceful, like most women - we have to
be - I use other substances for freeing stuck stuff)

Hmm 'other substances' .. or did you mean Semtex .. or KY Jelly
possibly? That's good for .. em .. er ... well it won't rot rubber
... oh I know .. freeing a childs head thats stuck between railings
...or was I thinking of a chainsaw ..?

All the best ..

T i m

"T i m" wrote in message
...
Or what tools we should but to make up a kit, at reasonable
expense.

Roll of Duck Tape, can of WD40.

Dave

I hadn't thought of WD40 (being resourceful, like most women - we have to
be - I use other substances for freeing stuck stuff)

Hmm 'other substances' .. or did you mean Semtex .. or KY Jelly
possibly? That's good for .. em .. er ... well it won't rot rubber
.. oh I know .. freeing a childs head thats stuck between railings
..or was I thinking of a chainsaw ..?

A chainsaw! That would work ...

For cleaning and restoring garden finds (e.g. rusted up bike wheels,
secateurs and the like) I start with vegetable oil - or butter, lard,
anything to hand - then washing up liquid interspersed with oil, I've never
been beaten yet.

For removing intractable adhesives I use talcum powder.

Homely recipes which work are good, don't cost much, always to hand, safe
and have other applications.

Don't have Semtex or KY but there have been times I'd have like to have
some of the former ...

Mary

....


I personally don't like having glass lying around.

It's not a good way to store it but I wouldn't have expextedanything else
from that source ...

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message
...
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Ian Stirling wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:

For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so
weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.


And cut it with?

Dressmakers scissors

And got it from?

Old cardboard boxes or cereal packets.

And you'd expect that to stand up to gusts of 90MPH driving rain?

He has to find a use for the packaging from his spare boilers ...

"Owain" wrote in message
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"Mary Fisher" wrote
| gaffer/duck/whatever tape is a must.
| It's wonderful for taping up big mouths.
| Before anyone feels slighted - I meant children's mouths.

You're not allowed to do that any more Mary.

Now go and let the grandchildren out of the cellar ...

Just back from staying with the little bitc ... darlings for a pseudo
Christmas. We've done something right - they were very enthusiastic about
their longbows etc, made more arrows and said it was the best present they'd
ever had!

But I'm not throwing away the tape. I don't care if it's not allowed, it's
effective.

Mary



Owain

Mary Fisher wrote:

"Ian Stirling" wrote in message
...

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Ian Stirling wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:


In article ,
Ian Stirling wrote:


For example, if I had not owned a glasscutter yesterday night, I would
have been unable to replace the 3 panes in the greenhouse (using spare
glass) that broke early on during a lull in the wind, and may well have
lost 10-20 panes. Obtaining cut panes of glass in the hour or so
weather
window at 6PM would have been difficult, if not impossible.

Most would have used hardboard or similar as a temporary repair.


And cut it with?

Dressmakers scissors


And got it from?

Old cardboard boxes or cereal packets.

And you'd expect that to stand up to gusts of 90MPH driving rain?


He has to find a use for the packaging from his spare boilers ...


????????????

In article ,
Mary Fisher wrote:
I personally don't like having glass lying around.

It's not a good way to store it but I wouldn't have expextedanything
else from that source ...

Since you're quoting me, perhaps you'd explain yourself? ;-)

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