Putting up plasterboard:
What's the point of Screwfix 'plasterboard- jagged'' nails as
compared to galvanised clout nails, and how far apart should they be?

cheers

Jacob

"jacob" wrote in message
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Putting up plasterboard:
What's the point of Screwfix 'plasterboard- jagged'' nails as
compared to galvanised clout nails, and how far apart should they be?

cheers

Jacob

Jacob,

I know it doesn't answer your question, but my advice is to use plasterboard
('drywall') screws. Much easier to get set to the right depth without
damaging the boards, and they hold better.

Andrew Mawson

"jacob" wrote in message
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Putting up plasterboard:
What's the point of Screwfix 'plasterboard- jagged'' nails as
compared to galvanised clout nails, and how far apart should they be?

cheers

Jacob

Clout nails have a large flat head, used for nailing roofing felt. The problem
about using them for plasterboard is that the skim coat of plaster doesn't
adhere to the large head and usually falls off leaving a hole - proper
plasterboard nails have much smaller heads. But I agree with Andrew - use
drywall screws if you can - 32mm for 9mm plasterboard and 38mm for 12mm board.
It's also much quicker and easier, especially if you're working alone.

Peter

"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
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"jacob" wrote in message
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Putting up plasterboard:
What's the point of Screwfix 'plasterboard- jagged'' nails as
compared to galvanised clout nails, and how far apart should they be?

cheers

Jacob

Clout nails have a large flat head, used for nailing roofing felt. The
problem
about using them for plasterboard is that the skim coat of plaster doesn't
adhere to the large head and usually falls off leaving a hole - proper
plasterboard nails have much smaller heads. But I agree with Andrew - use
drywall screws if you can - 32mm for 9mm plasterboard and 38mm for 12mm
board.
It's also much quicker and easier, especially if you're working alone.


Although it can be frustrating when you rip the heads off :-(

Then again, I was screwing through lats, having removed the old plaster,
instead of straight into joists.

Screws are easier than nails, expecially if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver.

HTH
Dave R

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...

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Screws are easier than nails, expecially if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver

Screws are easier than nails, ONLY if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver )

"Peter Taylor" wrote in message
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
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Screws are easier than nails, expecially if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver

Screws are easier than nails, ONLY if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver )








Well OK but I just put up a large ceiling with a cordless, then saw a lovely
proper (though mains powered) 'dry wall screwdriver' on eBay for £15 that I
couldn't resist - so all equipped for the next time g Do you find yourself
solving problems 'after the event' !!!!!

Andrew Mawson

Peter Taylor wrote:
"jacob" wrote...
Putting up plasterboard:
What's the point of Screwfix 'plasterboard- jagged'' nails as
compared to galvanised clout nails, and how far apart should
they be?

They're supposed not to pull out so easily. I don't see the
point, myself - ELH clouts (modern name!) every 4" or 6" are
fine, they should be decent gauge and long enough.


Clout nails have a large flat head, used for nailing roofing
felt. The problem about using them for plasterboard is that
the skim coat of plaster doesn't adhere to the large head and
usually falls off leaving a hole - proper plasterboard nails
have much smaller heads.

The problem is that they're rarely put in close enough together
or fully home. This means that there can be a gap, or a gap can
develop, between the PB and joist - then when someone pushes on
the PB, all the heads push up little domes of skim and discs of
plaster can fall off! To repair this, the PB must be pushed up
tight, existing nails must be punched down, new ones put in if
need be, and the lot filled.


But I agree with Andrew - use drywall screws if you can - 32mm
for 9mm plasterboard and 38mm for 12mm board.

This is OK but there can still be big problems with inept fitting,
especially where too few screws are used and/or they are over-
driven and the heads break through the outer layer into the
plaster; this can lead to whole boards falling off!!


It's also much quicker and easier, especially if you're working
alone.

No, I don't agree with that at all.


J.B.

"Peter Taylor" wrote in message ...
"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
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Screws are easier than nails, expecially if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver

Screws are easier than nails, ONLY if you have a cordless
drill/screwdriver )

Naa, did mine with the mains drill. Couldnt find the codless charger


I quite agree with one picee of advice: use screws not nails. I used
both and what a difference!


Regards, NT

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Peter Taylor wrote:
"jacob" wrote...
Putting up plasterboard:
What's the point of Screwfix 'plasterboard- jagged'' nails as
compared to galvanised clout nails, and how far apart should
they be?

snip

But I agree with Andrew - use drywall screws if you can - 32mm
for 9mm plasterboard and 38mm for 12mm board.

This is OK but there can still be big problems with inept fitting,
especially where too few screws are used and/or they are over-
driven and the heads break through the outer layer into the
plaster; this can lead to whole boards falling off!!

Do people think that adapters like this;

http://tinyurl.com/3yc6n

would be of any use with an ordinary cordless driver?

Mark

Mark Walters wrote:
"Jerry Built" wrote...
[ problems screwing plasterboard sheets in place ]

Do people think that adapters like this;

http://tinyurl.com/3yc6n

would be of any use with an ordinary cordless driver?

One of the comments in the blurb says yes! That looks like a
pretty good item (I bet it chews bits, though!). I'd certainly
try one, at the mo. when I screw up PB I set the clutch to
slip early, and finish by hand.
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J.B.