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Liz
 
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This may be a bit of a pipe dream but not far from where I live there is a
run down old house in the middle of the field. The roof sags a bit and
there are no windows, but the location is wonderful with even better views
than my present house if that's possible. Leaving aside the fact that I
have no idea who owns it, - what things would I need to take into
consideration when trying to make it habitable? And what sort of
costs/timescales would I be thinking of - principles rather than actual
costs. At the moment it's a one up one down with attached barn - standard
peak district stuff. How would access be agreed with any neighbours whose
land would need to be crossed?

Has anyone else done such a thing? I'm sure lots of you have.

Ideas for reference materials, websites, magazines, - anything please.

Many thanks

Liz


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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:12:45 +0100, "Liz" wrote:

This may be a bit of a pipe dream but not far from where I live there is a
run down old house in the middle of the field.


Lovely !

Basically it's a new build, but with simpler planning permission.
BTDT, worked out very well.

There are a couple of pretty good self-build mags around these days
(any big newsagent) and the whole process (especially mortgages) is
much easier now than it was 10 years ago.

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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:12:45 +0100, "Liz" wrote:

This may be a bit of a pipe dream but not far from where I live there is

a
run down old house in the middle of the field.


Lovely !

Basically it's a new build, but with simpler planning permission.
BTDT, worked out very well.


It is not a new build. A new build means demolishing the existing and
building fresh. In a new build you get "all" the VAT back, but not in a
renovation.


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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:52:34 +0100, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 23:12:45 +0100, "Liz" wrote:

This may be a bit of a pipe dream but not far from where I live there is

a
run down old house in the middle of the field.


Lovely !

Basically it's a new build, but with simpler planning permission.
BTDT, worked out very well.


It is not a new build. A new build means demolishing the existing and
building fresh. In a new build you get "all" the VAT back, but not in a
renovation.


So it would probably be cost effective to have it as a new build and
not a renovation... a couple of days demolishing and skip hire
against all that VAT...

Jim.

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"Liz" wrote in message
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costs. At the moment it's a one up one down with attached barn - standard
peak district stuff.


In the National Park? The authorities don't want people
to actually living there and ruining the views, you realize.




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what things would I need to take into
consideration when trying to make it habitable?


Planning permission that you have almost no chance whatsoever of getting
particularly if it is in the National Park.



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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:33:31 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
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Planning permission that you have almost no chance whatsoever of getting
particularly if it is in the National Park.


OTOH, if it's "refurbishment" (as ours was) then you can do it, even
in a particularly well-defended piece of green belt. Our starting
point was a pair of cottages that had been empty and derelict for 20
years, with little more than the walls standing.

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Planning permission that you have almost no chance whatsoever of getting
particularly if it is in the National Park.


OTOH, if it's "refurbishment" (as ours was) then you can do it, even
in a particularly well-defended piece of green belt. Our starting
point was a pair of cottages that had been empty and derelict for 20
years, with little more than the walls standing.


How long ago was that? Current guidance to planners is different.


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"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
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what things would I need to take into
consideration when trying to make it habitable?


Planning permission that you have almost no chance whatsoever of getting
particularly if it is in the National Park.


Demolishing an existing house and rebuilding to a similar local vernacular
design is common.



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