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(Update) - Visible join on Kitchen Ceiling....
"jonni" wrote in message
... Currenlty doing up my old council semi and have stripped the Kitchen out in preperation for the Plasterer arriving on Monday to skim coat the walls. Problem I have is the ceiling...... it will not be skimmed along with the walls and there is quite clearly visible tape from where the plasterboard was joined originally See picture - http://www.btinternet.com/~jonni/kitceiling.jpg What would you recommend the best solution to rectify this? Arranging and paying for the ceiling to be skimmed seems excessive, would it be possible to remove the tape and use a filler with flexibility then smooth it off and repaint? Although it may not look it in the picture, the rest of the ceiling is smooth, it's just the couple of lines of tape which are visible that cause the problem Any advice is appreciated Jonni PS: Incidentallly - I am also considering the 2 day plastering course offered by these guys - any comments? http://www.plasteringworkshop.co.uk/default.aspx 1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. Plasteter arrived a skimmed all walls as planned (paid for by local authority). While he was on site I took the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to 'do' the ceiling (see photo link above). He agreed to strap & sheet then skim - £60 materials £80 labour. 2) Now that the kitchen walls are drying and turning lighter I am noticing some trowel marks and small indentaions, not huge but certainly still noticable I think when coated in paint..........- sorry if I'm being overly fussy it that quite normal for a skimmed wall? - I have to say the majority is nice and smooth (read very smooth) and the beading placed over my old rounded corners is fantastic....... the trovel marks are noticable enough for me to think about buying some ready mix plaster and 'filling them' here and there..... Any thoughts?? 3) How long should I now wait before painitng these walls? what should I use for the first coat?...... I've heard talk of diluted emulsion? 4) I've also arranged for him to come and skim my living room - £300 - 4.2m x 3.2m room, which I thought was reasonable Just finish by saying...... the skim coat has transformed my kitchen!!...... Any plasterers out there give yourself a pat on the back from me! and keep up the good work. Jonni |
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:03:49 GMT, "jonni" wrote:
"jonni" wrote in message .. . Currenlty doing up my old council semi and have stripped the Kitchen out in preperation for the Plasterer arriving on Monday to skim coat the walls. Problem I have is the ceiling...... it will not be skimmed along with the walls and there is quite clearly visible tape from where the plasterboard was joined originally See picture - http://www.btinternet.com/~jonni/kitceiling.jpg What would you recommend the best solution to rectify this? Arranging and paying for the ceiling to be skimmed seems excessive, would it be possible to remove the tape and use a filler with flexibility then smooth it off and repaint? Although it may not look it in the picture, the rest of the ceiling is smooth, it's just the couple of lines of tape which are visible that cause the problem Any advice is appreciated Jonni Pull the tape off and bin it. Use a fine surface filler to fill the crack slightly proud and lightly sand smooth. (What I would do, for what it's worth) |
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1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. Plasteter arrived a skimmed all walls as planned (paid for by local authority). While he was on site I took the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to 'do' the ceiling (see photo link above). He agreed to strap & sheet then skim - £60 materials £80 labour. Jonni What is "strap & sheet" please? |
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In message , jonni
writes "jonni" wrote in message .. . Currenlty doing up my old council semi and have stripped the Kitchen out in preperation for the Plasterer arriving on Monday to skim coat the walls. Problem I have is the ceiling...... it will not be skimmed along with the walls and there is quite clearly visible tape from where the plasterboard was joined originally 1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. 2) Now that the kitchen walls are drying and turning lighter I am noticing some trowel marks and small indentaions, not huge but certainly still noticable I think when coated in paint..........- sorry if I'm being overly fussy it that quite normal for a skimmed wall? - I have to say the majority is nice and smooth (read very smooth) and the beading placed over my old rounded corners is fantastic....... the trovel marks are noticable enough for me to think about buying some ready mix plaster and 'filling them' here and there..... Any thoughts?? Wouldn't bother with ready mixed plaster, a bit of polyfilla will do the job fine. 3) How long should I now wait before painitng these walls? what should I use for the first coat?...... I've heard talk of diluted emulsion? For a skimmed wall a few days is enough - once it looks dry. I use diluted white emulsion (about 20-25%) for the initial coat. you can get stuff like Dulux Supermatt for freshly plastered wall, but IME that isn't necessary for a skim coat. 4) I've also arranged for him to come and skim my living room - £300 - 4.2m x 3.2m room, which I thought was reasonable Yep sounds ok, I've paid a similar price for our rooms. Just finish by saying...... the skim coat has transformed my kitchen!!...... Yep, it makes the world of difference - we've ended up doing nearly all the rooms in our house - smooth walls, and ceilings, crisp corners luverly. -- Chris French, Leeds |
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1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. Plasteter
arrived a skimmed all walls as planned (paid for by local authority). While he was on site I took the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to 'do' the ceiling (see photo link above). He agreed to strap & sheet then skim - £60 materials £80 labour. What materials is he using!? I bought a bag of plaster tonight for just over 3 quid, and plasterboard is only a few quid a sheet isnt it? |
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"a" writes: 1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. Plasteter arrived a skimmed all walls as planned (paid for by local authority). While he was on site I took the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to 'do' the ceiling (see photo link above). He agreed to strap & sheet then skim - £60 materials £80 labour. What materials is he using!? I bought a bag of plaster tonight for just over 3 quid, and plasterboard is only a few quid a sheet isnt it? Tea, biscuits, 4 large bags of sugar... ISTR materials for skimming two of my rooms came to around £50. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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3) How long should I now wait before painitng these walls? what should I
use for the first coat?...... I've heard talk of diluted emulsion? Wait a couple of weeks. Ensure that the colour has changed to dry. A simple skim should do this in a couple of days. Seal using white Dulux Trade Supermatt thinned 25% water, 75% paint. Then paint using your chosen colour Dulux Trade Supermatt. 2 coats. Ensure it is really Supermatt, rather than standard Vinyl emulsion. Use a roller. Cover everything in sheets, the thinned stuff will splash. Christian. |
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In message , Christian
McArdle writes 3) How long should I now wait before painitng these walls? what should I use for the first coat?...... I've heard talk of diluted emulsion? Wait a couple of weeks. Ensure that the colour has changed to dry. A simple skim should do this in a couple of days. Seal using white Dulux Trade Supermatt thinned 25% water, 75% paint. Then paint using your chosen colour Dulux Trade Supermatt. 2 coats. Ensure it is really Supermatt, rather than standard Vinyl emulsion. AIUI Supermatt is really intended for fresh plaster that hasn't had time to fully dry out. Certainly on all the walls and ceilings we have had skimmed (most of them now) I've just used a diluted standard vinyl matt emulsion - normally Dulux Trade and have had no problems some rooms been decorated about 5 years now. -- Chris French, Leeds |
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AIUI Supermatt is really intended for fresh plaster that hasn't had time
to fully dry out. It is also suitable as a general purpose emulsion. It doesn't actually require the plaster to be wet. However, it does take the risk out of the equation if the plaster skim really hasn't dried out yet. It is available in the full range of colours, too. Except for white and magnolia, it is generally mixed to order in the shop. Certainly on all the walls and ceilings we have had skimmed (most of them now) I've just used a diluted standard vinyl matt emulsion Obviously, just doing a skim is less risky that the full bonding and you will probably get away with using a standard emulsion if you leave it long enough, but you might as well use the Supermatt just in case. It isn't grossly expensive, or anything. Christian. |
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"Cycle" wrote in message ... 1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. Plasteter arrived a skimmed all walls as planned (paid for by local authority). While he was on site I took the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to 'do' the ceiling (see photo link above). He agreed to strap & sheet then skim - £60 materials £80 labour. Jonni What is "strap & sheet" please? Think that's trade talk for fix wooden frame and plasterboard it. Jonni |
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:33:00 GMT, EricP wrote:
Pull the tape off and bin it. Use a fine surface filler to fill the crack slightly proud and lightly sand smooth. (What I would do, for what it's worth) I came across a new product in Homebase about a month ago which may be of interest. I was painting a staircase for someone and there was a hairline crack running down the wall. Previously I've made such cracks a little wider and then polyfilla'd, sanded, polyfilla'd again, sanded again, and been left with evidence that there was a crack there once. Anyway, went to Homebase to pick up the required paint. Whilst nosing around I came across a polyfilla product in a round tin, it stated "for filling fine cracks". I thought yeah, big deal, but I'll give anything a try. Took it back, brushed the dust out of from the hairline crack (that was all the preparation I needed to do), and then used a paintbrush to paint this stuff on - no knives or anything. A couple of hours later it had dried and with very light sanding the crack had gone. And I mean gone. When I painted the wall that crack was nowhere to be seen. Paul Daniels wouldn't have been able to make that crack disappear better with his smoke and mirrors. Excellent stuff which I highly recommend for any fine cracks. Minimal preparation, easy to apply, and a piece of p!ss to finish. When you paint it on it feels a bit "rubbery", but it does a damn fine job of filling the crack. Polyfilla have a winner with this one in my opinion. Don't recall the actual name, but it was in the usual Polyfilla colours with their logo. And it was on the fillers shelf. Buy a small tin size (don't know if they do it in anything larger anyway) 'cos you will hardly use anything more than a couple of brush strokes. Andrew |
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"jonni" wrote in message ... "Cycle" wrote in message ... 1) Just wanted to update after receiving advice on above. Plasteter arrived a skimmed all walls as planned (paid for by local authority). While he was on site I took the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to 'do' the ceiling (see photo link above). He agreed to strap & sheet then skim - £60 materials £80 labour. Jonni What is "strap & sheet" please? Think that's trade talk for fix wooden frame and plasterboard it. Jonni Thank you. Cycle. |
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In message , Andrew McKay
writes On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:33:00 GMT, EricP wrote: Pull the tape off and bin it. Use a fine surface filler to fill the crack slightly proud and lightly sand smooth. (What I would do, for what it's worth) I came across a new product in Homebase about a month ago which may be of interest. Actually it's not that new, I bought some a few years ago. Anyway, went to Homebase to pick up the required paint. Whilst nosing around I came across a polyfilla product in a round tin, it stated "for filling fine cracks". I thought yeah, big deal, but I'll give anything a try. I've used it as well and found it worked well. For fine, but larger than hairline cracks I find Fine Surface polyfilla works well. -- Chris French, Leeds |
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