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Hugo Nebula
 
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Default The first knackered Potterton PCB of the season.

My Potterton Suprima 30 was refusing to fire up for more than a few
seconds yesterday, so I followed Potterton's Fault Finding flow chart.
This got me as far as "are the two yellow wires to the thermister
(sic) shorted?", which was a no. The next but one step was "are the
two white wires to the temp control shorted?", which was a yes and
therefore "replace Electronic Control", by which I assume they mean
the PCB.

However, as part of checking, I inspected the wiring to the thermistor
and carefully pulled it in and out. On reassembling everything, it
now seems to be working as normal. Is it possible that it is the
thermistor not conducting heat properly rather than the PCB?
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PHG
 
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Sorry - I can't help with your question but an an aside, how do I get hold
of a
Fault Finding flowchart for my boiler: a Potterton Netaheat 60e ?
The only relevant document I can find is the User's Guide at
http://www.potterton.co.uk/literatur...e_30-80_ug.pdf

Thanks Paul


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My Potterton Suprima 30 was refusing to fire up for more than a few
seconds yesterday, so I followed Potterton's Fault Finding flow chart.
This got me as far as "are the two yellow wires to the thermister
(sic) shorted?", which was a no. The next but one step was "are the
two white wires to the temp control shorted?", which was a yes and
therefore "replace Electronic Control", by which I assume they mean
the PCB.

However, as part of checking, I inspected the wiring to the thermistor
and carefully pulled it in and out. On reassembling everything, it
now seems to be working as normal. Is it possible that it is the
thermistor not conducting heat properly rather than the PCB?
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a piece of this, just how far from the pack have you strayed?"'




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In message , Hugo Nebula
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My Potterton Suprima 30 was refusing to fire up for more than a few
seconds yesterday, so I followed Potterton's Fault Finding flow chart.
This got me as far as "are the two yellow wires to the thermister
(sic) shorted?", which was a no. The next but one step was "are the
two white wires to the temp control shorted?", which was a yes and
therefore "replace Electronic Control", by which I assume they mean
the PCB.

However, as part of checking, I inspected the wiring to the thermistor
and carefully pulled it in and out. On reassembling everything, it
now seems to be working as normal. Is it possible that it is the
thermistor not conducting heat properly rather than the PCB?


Unlikely I would have thought

Even if it doesn't have heat sink compound around it, being physically
held in place, there's bound to be reasonable conduction to it from the
immediate area.

What's the resistance at room temp and up at operating temperature ?

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Doesn't seem to have stopped them:
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Who are they, anyway?

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Sorry - I can't help with your question but an an aside, how do I get hold
of a
Fault Finding flowchart for my boiler: a Potterton Netaheat 60e ?
The only relevant document I can find is the User's Guide at
http://www.potterton.co.uk/literatur...e_30-80_ug.pdf

Thanks Paul


Flowchart?

You're joking


A) don't top post
B) give us the symptoms

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Doesn't seem to have stopped them:
http://www.diyprojects.info/bb/ftopic2556.html

Who are they, anyway?


This disclaimer means that at least there are grounds to stop them

Unless anyone has a better disclaimer, I suggest anyone who takes
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raden wrote:
In message , Mike Tomlinson
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In article , raden
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Doesn't seem to have stopped them:
http://www.diyprojects.info/bb/ftopic2556.html

Who are they, anyway?


This disclaimer means that at least there are grounds to stop them

Unless anyone has a better disclaimer, I suggest anyone who takes
offence to them stealing Uk-diy material, use what I have written
above, i.e.

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then we can complain to their ISP, as this specifically states that
they are not allowed to reproduce it



What you need is a disclaimer along the lines of "diyprojects promise to pay
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acceptance of these terms".
Either that or start a thread with a title they wouldn't like and keep
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Hugo Nebula wrote:

My Potterton Suprima 30 was refusing to fire up for more than a few
seconds yesterday, so I followed Potterton's Fault Finding flow chart.
This got me as far as "are the two yellow wires to the thermister
(sic) shorted?", which was a no. The next but one step was "are the
two white wires to the temp control shorted?", which was a yes and
therefore "replace Electronic Control", by which I assume they mean
the PCB.

However, as part of checking, I inspected the wiring to the thermistor
and carefully pulled it in and out. On reassembling everything, it
now seems to be working as normal. Is it possible that it is the
thermistor not conducting heat properly rather than the PCB?



When my P S 80 adopteded the 'fire, fail to fault' mode of operating
this time last year I remade all the solder joints on the PCB and it has
worked fine ever since. Correction; it has worked as well as one can
expect from that model ;-)

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In message , James Hart
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raden wrote:
In message , Mike Tomlinson
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In article , raden
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The information contained in this post
may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diyprojects.info

Doesn't seem to have stopped them:
http://www.diyprojects.info/bb/ftopic2556.html

Who are they, anyway?


This disclaimer means that at least there are grounds to stop them

Unless anyone has a better disclaimer, I suggest anyone who takes
offence to them stealing Uk-diy material, use what I have written
above, i.e.

The information contained in this post
may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diyprojects.info

then we can complain to their ISP, as this specifically states that
they are not allowed to reproduce it



What you need is a disclaimer along the lines of "diyprojects promise to pay
me £100 for each post reproduced. Reproduction of this post constitutes
acceptance of these terms".
Either that or start a thread with a title they wouldn't like and keep
replying to it to put it at the top of their forum each time.


Err ... no

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some come back with their ISP and thus they can be kicked

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:56:58 +0000, PHG wrote:

Sorry - I can't help with your question but an an aside, how do I get hold
of a
Fault Finding flowchart for my boiler: a Potterton Netaheat 60e ?
The only relevant document I can find is the User's Guide at
http://www.potterton.co.uk/literatur...e_30-80_ug.pdf

The Netaheat is not a complex boiler although it was ahead of the game 20
years ago.

What's the problem?



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raden wrote:
In message , James Hart
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raden wrote:

In message , Mike Tomlinson
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In article , raden
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The information contained in this post
may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diyprojects.info


Doesn't seem to have stopped them:
http://www.diyprojects.info/bb/ftopic2556.html

Who are they, anyway?


This disclaimer means that at least there are grounds to stop them

Unless anyone has a better disclaimer, I suggest anyone who takes
offence to them stealing Uk-diy material, use what I have written
above, i.e.

The information contained in this post
may not be published in, or used by
http://www.diyprojects.info

then we can complain to their ISP, as this specifically states that
they are not allowed to reproduce it




What you need is a disclaimer along the lines of "diyprojects promise
to pay
me £100 for each post reproduced. Reproduction of this post constitutes
acceptance of these terms".
Either that or start a thread with a title they wouldn't like and keep
replying to it to put it at the top of their forum each time.


Err ... no

by copying posts which they are specifically told they may not, there is
some come back with their ISP and thus they can be kicked


in a similar theme, who gave google to reproduce posts, and place
contextual adverts? it would be interesting how much advertising money
google get from people searching through this group...

prehaps google could provide some sort of community web space for
hosting faq's or similar to compensate?

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In message , PHG
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Sorry - I can't help with your question but an an aside, how do I get

hold
of a
Fault Finding flowchart for my boiler: a Potterton Netaheat 60e ?
The only relevant document I can find is the User's Guide at


http://www.potterton.co.uk/literatur...ile_30-80_ug.p

df

Thanks Paul


Flowchart?

You're joking


A) don't top post
B) give us the symptoms

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