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![]() "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... FromTheRafters wrote: Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday : Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and antibiotics. This is a little different. The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another. The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes the newer generations. Resistance can build. The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus. The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. but in general language agreed. |
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On Jun 7, 2021 at 4:33:19 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
: "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... FromTheRafters wrote: Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday : Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and antibiotics. This is a little different. The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another. The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes the newer generations. Resistance can build. The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus. The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). but in general language agreed. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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![]() "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 4:33:19 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... FromTheRafters wrote: Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday : Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly. Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and antibiotics. This is a little different. The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another. The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes the newer generations. Resistance can build. The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus. The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. but in general language agreed. |
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 12:31:16 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH more of the two senile pests' usual endless idiotic senile **** -- Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak": "That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******." Message-ID: |
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On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:31:16 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
: The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. No offence, but I did not think you would be able to show any. In science there are few proofs -- but there is often strong support. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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![]() "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:31:16 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. No offence, but I did not think you would be able to show any. I can but dont take that troll bait. In science there are few proofs Thats mindless bull****. -- but there is often strong support. Mindless hair splitting/pathetic trolling. |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:58:33 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
: "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:31:16 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. No offence, but I did not think you would be able to show any. I can but dont take that troll bait. In science there are few proofs Thats mindless bull****. -- but there is often strong support. Mindless hair splitting/pathetic trolling. You were asked to back a claim about proof. You did not. That is OK... you have a belief you cannot back. No attack. No insult. Not interested in yours. As far as proofs -- those are a part of math, not science. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startsw...h=3299dec72fb1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...ientific_proof Etc. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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![]() "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:58:33 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:31:16 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. No offence, but I did not think you would be able to show any. I can but dont take that troll bait. In science there are few proofs Thats mindless bull****. -- but there is often strong support. Mindless hair splitting/pathetic trolling. You were asked to back a claim about proof. You trolled and I didnt take the bait. reams of your troll**** flushed where it belongs |
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On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:05:21 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
: On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:58:33 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : "Snit" wrote in message ... On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:31:16 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote : The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all. Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now. I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms, No you couldnt with that, it has been proven. By all means show the proof (not just support). You are free to chase that up for yourself. No offence, but I did not think you would be able to show any. I can but dont take that troll bait. In science there are few proofs Thats mindless bull****. -- but there is often strong support. Mindless hair splitting/pathetic trolling. You were asked to back a claim about proof. You did not. That is OK... you have a belief you cannot back. No attack. No insult. Not interested in yours. As far as proofs -- those are a part of math, not science. https://www.forbes.com/sites/startsw...h=3299dec72fb1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...ientific_proof Etc. Rod Speed snipped and ran. Whatever. Clearly he just wants the last word. He can have it. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. |
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