On Fri, 28 May 2021 19:50:16 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

Its much higher with the earlier stuff.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any
electronics.

There isnt much of any real value in a CRT tv.

Even the glass isnt of any real value because
its very specialised glass and there is plenty of
much more useful glass with used drink bottles.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

We do too and all the new stuff is, but we also have VDSL2+
and so do you. I could have said the original better.

Only in a very few outlying areas.

That's not true.

It is in the UK.

Nope.

We even got fibre to the home at 18% a year ago.

Not to all but a very few outlying areas you didn't.

Look up the BT stats. That's where I got the numbers from.

Pretty much everyone has fibre to the cabinet,

That's VDSL2+

We name it more recognisably.

which is usually 40-80Mbit.

Mine will do 130Mb but I only pay for 50Mb.

Mine will do 54 (long way to the cabinet over copper wire) but I pay for 38.

All of our new ones and plenty of existing houses
are fiber to the home and that will do 1Gb

I dunno about new homes here, but I've seen a few people have it retro fitted. I bet when their next door neighbour asks for it, BT has to do **** all to join it on, but charge them the same.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access
in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi.

I do for the smartphone which I use all the time
and for the kindle and for all the fully automated
lights etc and for all the stuff like echo dots, google
home minis and for the video surveillance too.

I'm trying to set up video surveillance - testing some USB cameras,
might go for IP cameras over an ethernet cable. But WiFi is nowhere
near fast enough for several 4K video streams.

Plenty fast enough for the one for each camera.

What is that in English?

There is one wifi stream to each camera.

What I meant was Wifi is shared is it not? Between all the cameras.

Not.

Your WiFi access point will transmit at a certain speed, that's shared among all devices. Unless you have two access points on different channels, which is difficult as then neighbours start interfering.

It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science
projects on it which would eat 4G data.

Yep, you are a real dinosaur tech wise.

I only use tech that I need or want,

But what you need or want is stupid with smartphones.

********, what am I not using that would benefit me?

Google maps to get to where you want to go with
real time turn by turn directions and traffic etc
when you are going somewhere you havent been
before for a gumtree or freecycle pickup etc.

My Satnav does that.

you use it for the sake of it.

Wrong, I use tech that I need or want.

Most of what you have are gimmics.

Wrong.

Still waiting for something useful. Your Alexa isn't for a start you lazy bugger.

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

Its much higher with the earlier stuff.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any
electronics.

There isnt much of any real value in a CRT tv.

Even the glass isnt of any real value because
its very specialised glass and there is plenty of
much more useful glass with used drink bottles.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

We do too and all the new stuff is, but we also have VDSL2+
and so do you. I could have said the original better.

Only in a very few outlying areas.

That's not true.

It is in the UK.

Nope.

We even got fibre to the home at 18% a year ago.

Not to all but a very few outlying areas you didn't.

Look up the BT stats.

They say nothing like that.

That's where I got the numbers from.

But you didn't understand that fiber
to the cabinet isnt fiber to the home.

Pretty much everyone has fibre to the cabinet,

That's VDSL2+

We name it more recognisably.

But you still couldn't work out that fiber
to the cabinet isnt fiber to the home.

which is usually 40-80Mbit.

Mine will do 130Mb but I only pay for 50Mb.

Mine will do 54 (long way to the cabinet over copper wire) but I pay for
38.

I can have 25 but prefer 50 for the higher upload speed,
20. You only get 5 with a 25 download speed.

You can have 1Gb each way with fiber to the home
which lots have.

All of our new ones and plenty of existing houses
are fiber to the home and that will do 1Gb

I dunno about new homes here, but I've seen a few people have it retro
fitted. I bet when their next door neighbour asks for it, BT has to do
**** all to join it on, but charge them the same.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi
access
in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi.

I do for the smartphone which I use all the time
and for the kindle and for all the fully automated
lights etc and for all the stuff like echo dots, google
home minis and for the video surveillance too.

I'm trying to set up video surveillance - testing some USB cameras,
might go for IP cameras over an ethernet cable. But WiFi is nowhere
near fast enough for several 4K video streams.

Plenty fast enough for the one for each camera.

What is that in English?

There is one wifi stream to each camera.

What I meant was Wifi is shared is it not? Between all the cameras.

Not.

Your WiFi access point will transmit at a certain speed, that's shared
among all devices.

Nope, they each get that speed.

Unless you have two access points on different channels, which is
difficult as then neighbours start interfering.

Mangled again.

It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science
projects on it which would eat 4G data.

Yep, you are a real dinosaur tech wise.

I only use tech that I need or want,

But what you need or want is stupid with smartphones.

********, what am I not using that would benefit me?

Google maps to get to where you want to go with
real time turn by turn directions and traffic etc
when you are going somewhere you havent been
before for a gumtree or freecycle pickup etc.

My Satnav does that.

Google maps does it much better with you being
able to do it by the name of the commercial
operation and with real time traffic info as well.

you use it for the sake of it.

Wrong, I use tech that I need or want.

Most of what you have are gimmics.

Wrong.

Still waiting for something useful.

You have got plenty in the past.

Your Alexa isn't for a start you lazy bugger.

Google/nest is much better and you are just plain wrong.

Only a fool switches stuff off when going to bed and on
when getting up instead of saying "hey google, goodnight"
and "hey google, good morning" and getting the weather
forecast as well as the lights done. And don't try claiming
that you can just look out the window, I get up in the dark.

Same with the cooking timer for most meals, "hey google,
timer 3" sets 3 timers at once. Alexa cant do that.

On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 04:51:03 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

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