Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't find, no one wants a CRT
TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping, but does that mean anyone can
use it?

My wifi router.

a router without wifi? (bought by mistake at a hamfest, when I didn't
notice it had no antenna. Otherwise it looked just like the one I was
using.

On 2021-05-25, micky wrote:
a router without wifi? (bought by mistake at a hamfest, when I didn't
notice it had no antenna. Otherwise it looked just like the one I was
using.

Many professional/commercial grade routers do not have built-in wifi.

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On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:59:49 -0400, micky
wrote:

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Best Buy will recycle electronics. They charge $25 for any display
(no matter what the size) and everything else is free.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't find, no one wants a CRT
TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping, but does that mean anyone can
use it?

My wifi router.

a router without wifi? (bought by mistake at a hamfest, when I didn't
notice it had no antenna. Otherwise it looked just like the one I was
using.

micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 25 May 2021 12:06:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.


Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:59:49 -0400, micky
wrote:

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't find, no one wants a CRT
TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping, but does that mean anyone can
use it?

My wifi router.

a router without wifi? (bought by mistake at a hamfest, when I didn't
notice it had no antenna. Otherwise it looked just like the one I was
using.


CRTs are solid waste. The local hazmat place will take them.
Routers are what they will sell for on Ebay (or similar place). There
are people who can use a non-WiFi router. I have one separating my
family LAN from my private one.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:06:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is.

No ****, you ridiculous pathological "expert" in EVERYTHING! LOL

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On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:59:49 -0400, micky
wrote:

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

It depends a lot on where in the world you are.

Here in Norway, everything is regulated to the bone. E-waste is no
exception.

Vendors who sell electronics are required by law to accept e-waste for
free. It does not matter where it was bought or how old it is.

Then, there is, of course, a tax: Vendors who collect less then what
they sell, measured by weight, must pay a tax for the amount of weight
they are "short". This means that the e-waste has actual value to the
vendors, so they lock their e-waste into steel containers to keep it
from getting stolen.

Fixers and tinkerers who just need a thermostat or a capacitor or
whatever, have no choice but to buy a brand new one. Probably from
China.

On Mon, 24 May 2021 23:41:42 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 25 May 2021 12:06:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.


Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

They will pick that stuff up at the curb here but you set it out
separately and the regular trash guys red tag it. Then a different
truck comes for it. (white goods, electronics etc)

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 25 May 2021 11:38:36 +0200, HW
wrote:

On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:59:49 -0400, micky
wrote:

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

It depends a lot on where in the world you are.

Here in Norway, everything is regulated to the bone. E-waste is no
exception.

Vendors who sell electronics are required by law to accept e-waste for
free. It does not matter where it was bought or how old it is.

And do they actually recycle it? Take it apart and save resusable
minerals?

Then, there is, of course, a tax: Vendors who collect less then what
they sell, measured by weight, must pay a tax for the amount of weight
they are "short". This means that the e-waste has actual value to the
vendors, so they lock their e-waste into steel containers to keep it
from getting stolen.

Wow.

But what happens to it? If they just put in a landfill, that would be
no better than here.


Baltimore County no longer has what was called Bulk Collection, so if
you have something big to get rid of you have to have your own truck or
hire someone and they charge a minimum of over $100. That might be worth
it if you have a lot of things, but when there was free collection, once
a month, I think it was, you could just put out one thing. You didn't
have to save up your bulk trask for months until you have $100 worth.
So unlike other money-saving measures by the government, this is a
tremendous inconvenience.

There are 3 places in Baltimore County that accept recycling and trash
and it says they recycle electronics except TVs and monitors, which
they do take as trash. Which makes it all the more surprising that
this place I mentioned says it recycles them. (And not only that, it's
the only place within 50 miles that does so and it's only 3 miles from
here. It doesn't look big enough on satellite view but I talked to the
guy on the phone and he seemed sane and business-like. I'll have more
details in a couple weeks after I've been there.)

**Some things are only accepted at one of the three. I think I had
dirty kerosene that at the time only one place would take. They took
car batteries and other things, and I'm sure thy recycled them.

https://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/de...materials.html

This led to another one I coudln't find before, erevival.com that says
"Unlike other electronics and computer recycling companies, eRevival
Computer and Electronics Recycling offers the highest value for
retired/obsolete computers, monitors, hardware components, networking
equipment, media tapes, phone, fax and copier systems. eRevival
Electronics and Computer Recycling also have a competitive advantage
when it may become necessary to dispose of your equipment when it
exceeds the marketable value."

But doesn't list tv's.

Fixers and tinkerers who just need a thermostat or a capacitor or
whatever, have no choice but to buy a brand new one. Probably from
China.

In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

On 26/05/2021 09:34, Mike Coon wrote:
In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

Was that part of a science lesson in those days? ;-)

On Tue, 25 May 2021 12:10:15 -0400, micky
wrote:

Vendors who sell electronics are required by law to accept e-waste for
free. It does not matter where it was bought or how old it is.

And do they actually recycle it? Take it apart and save resusable
minerals?

The official story is yes. There are companies that are approved for
collecting (from the vendors) and recycling. Here's how one of them
presents itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0UH6fIiz8

(Don't worry about not understanding the Norwegian text. It is just as
pretentious as the video and music.)

But what happens to it? If they just put in a landfill, that would be
no better than here.

Over the years, there have been a few incidents where nosy journalists
have found hundreds of tons of Norwegian e-waste in remote African
villages. Let's hope that's no longer happening.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 02:33:30 +0100, wrote:

On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:59:49 -0400, micky
wrote:

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Best Buy will recycle electronics. They charge $25 for any display
(no matter what the size) and everything else is free.

Take it to the skip for free.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 03:06:12 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any electronics.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi. It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science projects on it which would eat 4G data.

On Tue, 25 May 2021 04:41:42 +0100, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 25 May 2021 12:06:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.

Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

A guy rang my doorbell a few weeks ago having spotted a few car batteries (well 1 car battery and 4 sealed ones from a UPS) lying at the side of my garage (17m from the pavement) and asked if I wanted rid of them. I think you can get a fiver each in bulk, I know someone pays £2 each to a local garage to take dead ones from there, and presumably he makes a profit.

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle, there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs, one to see
the shadow screen (is that what it's called?) that color tvs had with
one hole for every 3 dots. The other was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away
enough of the neck and adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The
thing grew really well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.

On 5/26/2021 8:21 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs, one to see
the shadow screen (is that what it's called?) that color tvs had with
one hole for every 3 dots. The other was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away
enough of the neck and adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The
thing grew really well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.


CRT's are mage of leaded glass to stop radiation. They thus require
special processing.

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

Its much higher with the earlier stuff.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any electronics.

There isnt much of any real value in a CRT tv.

Even the glass isnt of any real value because
its very specialised glass and there is plenty of
much more useful glass with used drink bottles.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

We do too and all the new stuff is, but we also have VDSL2+
and so do you. I could have said the original better.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi.

I do for the smartphone which I use all the time
and for the kindle and for all the fully automated
lights etc and for all the stuff like echo dots, google
home minis and for the video surveillance too.

It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science projects on
it which would eat 4G data.

Yep, you are a real dinosaur tech wise.

Commander Kinsey wrote
micky wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.

Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

A guy rang my doorbell a few weeks ago having spotted a few car batteries
(well 1 car battery and 4 sealed ones from a UPS) lying at the side of my
garage (17m from the pavement) and asked if I wanted rid of them. I think
you can get a fiver each in bulk, I know someone pays £2 each to a local
garage to take dead ones from there, and presumably he makes a profit.

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%,

then you pay shipping.

Or the buyer does.

If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The local facebook buy swap sell groups work much better.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff,

Depends on what it is. No one ever
wants the old CRT tvs or monitors.

and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Same with the local facebook groups.

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 12:53:24 +0100, "Commander
Kinsey" wrote:


I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The freecycle here is dying away. Get far fewer emails from them than 5
years ago. Though someone did take my gas lawnmower on Monday, and I
got a small stack of Handyman magazines yesterday.

But those are exceptions.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Ebay reaches more people. Those here who read Freecycle, or NextDoor,
or a community webpage I could use, don't know how to fiddle with any of
my old stuff.

"micky" wrote in message
...
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs,
one to see the shadow screen (is that what it's called?)

Shadow mask.

that color tvs had with one hole for every 3 dots. The other
was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away enough of the neck and
adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The thing grew really
well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.

On Thu, 27 May 2021 04:46:01 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
TYPICAL retarded "conversation" between sociopath Rodent and sociopath
Birdbrain from August 26th 2018:

Birdbrain: "I have one head but 5 fingers."

Senile Rodent: "Obvious lie. You hairy legged cross dressers are so inbred
that you all have two heads."

Birdbrain: "You're the one that likes hairy legs remember?"

Senile Rodent: "The problem isnt the hairy legs, it's the gross inbreeding
that
produces two headed unemployables like you."

Birdbrain: "So why did you mention hairy legs?"

Senile Rodent: "Because that's what those who arent actually stupid enough
to shave their legs have."

Birdbrain: "You only have hairy legs if both of the following are true:
1) You're quite far back on the evolutionary scale.
2) You haven't learned what a razor is for."

Senile Rodent: "Only a terminal ****wit or a woman shaves their legs."

Birdbrain: "There is literally zero point in having hair all over your
body."

Senile Rodent: "There is even less point in wasting your time changing what
you are born with."

MID:

On Thu, 27 May 2021 04:40:42 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
Typical retarded "conversation" between the Scottish ****** and the senile
Ozzietard:

Birdbrain: "Horse **** doesn't stink."

Senile Rodent: "It does if you roll in it."

Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky ****, but then why does vegetarian human **** stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rodent: "Nope, some cow **** stinks too."

Message-ID:

On Wed, 26 May 2021 15:02:44 -0400, micky mouse, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered again:


The freecycle here is dying away.

Let's hope all you troll-feeding senile asshole will do so too, quickly!

On Thu, 27 May 2021 05:18:22 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
"Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/

On 5/26/2021 12:02 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 12:53:24 +0100, "Commander
Kinsey" wrote:


I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The freecycle here is dying away. Get far fewer emails from them than 5
years ago. Though someone did take my gas lawnmower on Monday, and I
got a small stack of Handyman magazines yesterday.

But those are exceptions.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Ebay reaches more people. Those here who read Freecycle, or NextDoor,
or a community webpage I could use, don't know how to fiddle with any of
my old stuff.


When I post anything usable on freecycle or craigslist "free", it often
goes in minutes.

The 50 yo cast iron table saw table took a couple days.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 10:43:05 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/26/2021 8:21 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs, one to see
the shadow screen (is that what it's called?) that color tvs had with
one hole for every 3 dots. The other was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away
enough of the neck and adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The
thing grew really well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.


CRT's are mage of leaded glass to stop radiation. They thus require
special processing.

I think that is mostly hysteria. The lead in the glass is very well
sequestered in the glass. The amount that could leach out is
infinitesimal and not significant in what we throw in landfills.

On 5/24/2021 8:59 PM, micky wrote:
A westell DSL modem Hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping, but does that mean anyone can
use it?

If you have ADSL... I still have 3M DSL from the telco... I bought my
older used modem on eBay a couple years ago.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 19:40:42 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

Its much higher with the earlier stuff.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any electronics.

There isnt much of any real value in a CRT tv.

Even the glass isnt of any real value because
its very specialised glass and there is plenty of
much more useful glass with used drink bottles.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

We do too and all the new stuff is, but we also have VDSL2+
and so do you. I could have said the original better.

Only in a very few outlying areas.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi.

I do for the smartphone which I use all the time
and for the kindle and for all the fully automated
lights etc and for all the stuff like echo dots, google
home minis and for the video surveillance too.

I'm trying to set up video surveillance - testing some USB cameras, might go for IP cameras over an ethernet cable. But WiFi is nowhere near fast enough for several 4K video streams.

It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science projects on
it which would eat 4G data.

Yep, you are a real dinosaur tech wise.

I only use tech that I need or want, you use it for the sake of it.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 19:46:01 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote
micky wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.

Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

A guy rang my doorbell a few weeks ago having spotted a few car batteries
(well 1 car battery and 4 sealed ones from a UPS) lying at the side of my
garage (17m from the pavement) and asked if I wanted rid of them. I think
you can get a fiver each in bulk, I know someone pays £2 each to a local
garage to take dead ones from there, and presumably he makes a profit..

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%,

then you pay shipping.

Or the buyer does.

Silly way of looking at it. When I buy I look at the whole price. Item + postage, or item + fuel for me to drive there. If something is worth £10 to Mr Smith, but it costs £8 to get it to him, you can only extract £2 from Mr Smith.

If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The local facebook buy swap sell groups work much better.

Maybe they do over there, but here Gumtree and Freecycle work best. I went on a Facebook group and it had about 20 times less stuff. I put a cooker on Gumtree and was phoned in 2 minutes.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff,

Depends on what it is. No one ever
wants the old CRT tvs or monitors.

People with enough space that just want a crappy screen for a Linux server do.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 20:02:44 +0100, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 12:53:24 +0100, "Commander
Kinsey" wrote:


I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The freecycle here is dying away. Get far fewer emails from them than 5
years ago. Though someone did take my gas lawnmower on Monday, and I
got a small stack of Handyman magazines yesterday.

But those are exceptions.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Ebay reaches more people. Those here who read Freecycle, or NextDoor,
or a community webpage I could use, don't know how to fiddle with any of
my old stuff.

I've never found anyone on Ebay to come and collect. Ebay buyers seem to expect postage. Gumtree works best here for come get it stuff that's too big to post. Freecycle is fairly good too.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 21:11:33 +0100, Bob F wrote:

On 5/26/2021 12:02 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 12:53:24 +0100, "Commander
Kinsey" wrote:


I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The freecycle here is dying away. Get far fewer emails from them than 5
years ago. Though someone did take my gas lawnmower on Monday, and I
got a small stack of Handyman magazines yesterday.

But those are exceptions.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Ebay reaches more people. Those here who read Freecycle, or NextDoor,
or a community webpage I could use, don't know how to fiddle with any of
my old stuff.

When I post anything usable on freecycle or craigslist "free", it often
goes in minutes.

I thought Craigslist was a dating site?

The 50 yo cast iron table saw table took a couple days.

To carry it to the destination?

On Wed, 26 May 2021 17:09:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 May 2021 10:43:05 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/26/2021 8:21 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs, one to see
the shadow screen (is that what it's called?) that color tvs had with
one hole for every 3 dots. The other was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away
enough of the neck and adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The
thing grew really well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.


CRT's are mage of leaded glass to stop radiation. They thus require
special processing.

I think that is mostly hysteria. The lead in the glass is very well
sequestered in the glass. The amount that could leach out is
infinitesimal and not significant in what we throw in landfills.

Crystal is leaded, too. Vitrification is one of the best ways to
sequester bad stuff. It would be good for radioactive waste but
somewhat expensive.

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

Its much higher with the earlier stuff.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any electronics.

There isnt much of any real value in a CRT tv.

Even the glass isnt of any real value because
its very specialised glass and there is plenty of
much more useful glass with used drink bottles.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

We do too and all the new stuff is, but we also have VDSL2+
and so do you. I could have said the original better.

Only in a very few outlying areas.

That's not true.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access
in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi.

I do for the smartphone which I use all the time
and for the kindle and for all the fully automated
lights etc and for all the stuff like echo dots, google
home minis and for the video surveillance too.

I'm trying to set up video surveillance - testing some USB cameras, might
go for IP cameras over an ethernet cable. But WiFi is nowhere near fast
enough for several 4K video streams.

Plenty fast enough for the one for each camera.

It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science projects
on it which would eat 4G data.

Yep, you are a real dinosaur tech wise.

I only use tech that I need or want,

But what you need or want is stupid with smartphones.

you use it for the sake of it.

Wrong, I use tech that I need or want.

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote
micky wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access
in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.

Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

A guy rang my doorbell a few weeks ago having spotted a few car
batteries
(well 1 car battery and 4 sealed ones from a UPS) lying at the side of
my
garage (17m from the pavement) and asked if I wanted rid of them. I
think
you can get a fiver each in bulk, I know someone pays £2 each to a local
garage to take dead ones from there, and presumably he makes a profit.

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the
lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%,

then you pay shipping.

Or the buyer does.

Silly way of looking at it.

Yours is.

When I buy I look at the whole price. Item + postage, or item + fuel for
me to drive there.

So does everyone else with a clue.

If something is worth £10 to Mr Smith, but it costs £8 to get it to him,
you can only extract £2 from Mr Smith.

Silly way of looking at it.

If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The local facebook buy swap sell groups work much better.

Maybe they do over there, but here Gumtree and Freecycle work best.

Bull****.

I went on a Facebook group and it had about 20 times less stuff. I put a
cooker on Gumtree and was phoned in 2 minutes.

The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff,

Depends on what it is. No one ever
wants the old CRT tvs or monitors.

People with enough space that just want a crappy screen for a Linux server
do.

There are far fewer of those than there are old CRT tvs or monitors.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 26 May 2021 20:02:44 +0100, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 12:53:24 +0100, "Commander
Kinsey" wrote:


I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay
shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The freecycle here is dying away. Get far fewer emails from them than 5
years ago. Though someone did take my gas lawnmower on Monday, and I
got a small stack of Handyman magazines yesterday.

But those are exceptions.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't
have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Ebay reaches more people. Those here who read Freecycle, or NextDoor,
or a community webpage I could use, don't know how to fiddle with any of
my old stuff.

I've never found anyone on Ebay to come and collect.

Plenty do that with the bigger stuff in big citys and with cars, boats,
houses etc etc etc.

Ebay buyers seem to expect postage.

Plenty don't with the bigger stuff in big citys and with cars, boats, houses
etc etc etc.

Gumtree works best here for come get it stuff that's too big to post.

Bull****.

Freecycle is fairly good too.

Facebook local buy swap sell groups work much better.

On Fri, 28 May 2021 05:44:46 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rodent:

Senile Rodent: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own ****?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the ****."

MID:

On Fri, 28 May 2021 05:47:27 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID:

On 5/27/2021 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2021 17:09:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 May 2021 10:43:05 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/26/2021 8:21 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs, one to see
the shadow screen (is that what it's called?) that color tvs had with
one hole for every 3 dots. The other was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away
enough of the neck and adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The
thing grew really well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.


CRT's are mage of leaded glass to stop radiation. They thus require
special processing.

I think that is mostly hysteria. The lead in the glass is very well
sequestered in the glass. The amount that could leach out is
infinitesimal and not significant in what we throw in landfills.

Crystal is leaded, too. Vitrification is one of the best ways to
sequester bad stuff. It would be good for radioactive waste but
somewhat expensive.


The laws here make it very clear that even putting CRTs in the garbage
is prohibited. Of course, you obviously know way more than the experts