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Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take
home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill |
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![]() "williamwright" wrote in message ... Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Not even there https://www.onelook.com/?w=trankliments&ls=a |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 10:05:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "williamwright" wrote in message ... Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Not even there https://www.onelook.com/?w=trankliments&ls=a Hardly surprising, given it's an English regional dialect word. OED2 has "trinklements" which it says is a Lancashire word meaning "trinkets, knick-knacks". |
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Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill Not heard it but guess that its a dialect form of accoutrements. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote:
Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? According to Wright's 1896 "The English Dialect Dictionary" a bit wider: TRANKLIMENT, sb. Cum. Wm. Yks. Chs. Shr. Also written tranklyment Yks.; and in forms tranklement Yks. Shr.1; trantlement Cum.14 Wm. [tra·ŋkliment, tra·ŋklimənt.] 1. A trinket, knick-knack, ornament; a toy; useless article. Cf. trantle, sb.1 2, trinklements. Cum.14 Wm. Thoo mun be a mafflin ta think et I'd knaa what ta meeak a sick trantlements, Brigsteear Gooardy, in Clarke Spec. Dial. (ed. 1885) pt. iii. 23. w.Yks. Ah howd it true wi' him wot sings On golden coorded tranklyment, Pogmoor Olm. (1896) 3; w.Yks.2 Chs. Chs. Sheaf (1884) III. 178. 2. Gear, belongings, odds and ends; gen. used in pl. w.Yks. It's heigh time at we'd a ockshan sale, an sell off all wir ships an' feightin tranklements, Tom Treddlehoyle Bairnsla Ann. (1860) 56. s.Chs.1 Iv ahy aam· t* weyt-wesh dh)aay·s-plee·s, ahy m*n aav· au· dheyz traangk·lim*nts tai·n aayt; ahy m*n aav· * tley*r bongk. Shr.1 Now then, young uns, clier away yore tranklements. I'm a bit surprised you don't have a well-thumbed copy of Wright's so as to be able to educate the grandchildren on their heritage ![]() -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Well, I'm half Yorkshire and had not heard it myself. Sounds like some kind
of composite of two words to me. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "williamwright" wrote in message ... Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill |
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On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 23:37:16 UTC+1, wrote:
Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill Not familiar with that version/spelling, but... tracklement Jump to navigation Jump to search Contents 1 English 1.1 Etymology 1.2 Noun 1.3 References English Etymology Coined in its current sense by the English cookery writer Dorothy Hartley in her book Food in England in 1954, but probably derived from a similar dialect word with variant spellings (e.g. tranklement, tanchiment) used before that date across North and Central England and meaning "ornaments, trinkets; bits of things". Noun tracklement (plural tracklements) (Britain, rare) A savoury condiment (for example a mustard, relish or chutney), especially one served with meat. |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 10:05:37 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Not even there https://www.onelook.com/?w=trankliments&ls=a Actually, the word does exist in variant spellings, you obnoxious senile pest! |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 07:37:40 +0100, Robin wrote:
On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote: Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? According to Wright's 1896 "The English Dialect Dictionary" a bit wider: [] I'm a bit surprised you don't have a well-thumbed copy of Wright's so as to be able to educate the grandchildren on their heritage ![]() As it was possibly written by Bill (or just maybe his forbears) he probably has a number of copies that were presented by his publisher. |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote
Well, I'm half Yorkshire Which half ? Top half, bottom half ? Left half, right half ? Front half, back half ? Bet its the back half. and had not heard it myself. Sounds like some kind of composite of two words to me. Those buggers are to tight to use bits of two words. "williamwright" wrote in message ... Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill |
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On 02/06/2021 01:05, Rod Speed wrote:
"williamwright" wrote in message ... Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Not even there https://www.onelook.com/?w=trankliments&ls=a That must me a cheapskate publication. Bill |
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On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote:
Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? So, Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill |
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On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote:
Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? It's a new one on me. (Lancs) |
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williamwright wrote:
williamwright wrote: Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? So, Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? I'd never heard of it, and all search hits said yorkshire or specifically sheffield ... |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 12:06:45 +0100, williamwright wrote:
On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote: Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? So, Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill I've only ever come across it in Yorkshire. A few miles up the M1 from you its 'tranklements - with an 'e' not an 'i'. A few miles south of you into Derbyshire and it was never heard and had to be explained. |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 19:59:54 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest idiotic troll**** -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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polygonum_on_google wrote:
Coined in its current sense by the English cookery writer Dorothy Hartley in her book Food in England in 1954, but probably derived from a similar dialect word with variant spellings (e.g. tranklement, tanchiment) used before that date across North and Central England and meaning "ornaments, trinkets; bits of things". Noun tracklement (plural tracklements) (Britain, rare) A savoury condiment (for example a mustard, relish or chutney), especially one served with meat. https://www.tracklements.co.uk/about/ Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK @ChrisJDixon1 Plant amazing Acers. |
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On 02/06/2021 12:09, R D S wrote:
On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote: Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? It's a new one on me. (Lancs) Never heard it darn sarf (surrey/East anglia) -- Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early twenty-first centurys developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a rollback of the industrial age. Richard Lindzen |
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On 02/06/2021 10:25, Bev wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 07:37:40 +0100, Robin wrote: On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote: Today, preoccupied, I said to a visiting child who I was about to take home, "Have you got all your your trankliments?" Meaning toys, shoes, phones, etc. Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? According to Wright's 1896 "The English Dialect Dictionary" a bit wider: [] I'm a bit surprised you don't have a well-thumbed copy of Wright's so as to be able to educate the grandchildren on their heritage ![]() As it was possibly written by Bill (or just maybe his forbears) he probably has a number of copies that were presented by his publisher. While Joseph Wright came from Bradford he had no issue who survived beyond childhood so he can't be one of Bill's forebears as such. Possibly a collateral. Not to mention a bloody clever bloke who went from illiterate mill worker to Oxford professor. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 02/06/2021 14:04, Robin wrote:
While Joseph Wright came from Bradford he had no issue who survived beyond childhood so he can't be one of Bill's forebears as such. He might have had a bike. Many of my male ancestors had bikes, I have come to believe. Bill |
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On 02/06/2021 12:18, Bev wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 12:06:45 +0100, williamwright wrote: On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote: Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? So, Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill I've only ever come across it in Yorkshire. A few miles up the M1 from you its 'tranklements - with an 'e' not an 'i'. A few miles south of you into Derbyshire and it was never heard and had to be explained. I have never heard of either. (J38 of M1) -- Adam |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2021 19:31:48 +0100, ARW wrote:
On 02/06/2021 12:18, Bev wrote: On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 12:06:45 +0100, williamwright wrote: On 01/06/2021 23:37, williamwright wrote: Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? So, Is this word in use in other areas, or is it just Yorkshire? Bill I've only ever come across it in Yorkshire. A few miles up the M1 from you its 'tranklements - with an 'e' not an 'i'. A few miles south of you into Derbyshire and it was never heard and had to be explained. I have never heard of either. (J38 of M1) I was a bit further north - J39. Mebbe the cut off point was Woolley Edge? |
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