On 25/05/2021 13:58, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/05/2021 12:50, GB wrote:
On 25/05/2021 12:37, Andy Burns wrote:
fred wrote:

Serious explosion bellied caused by cut gas pipe. How ? Presumably it
was in error but what would you be doing for that to happen?

"criminal investigation"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/24/lancashire-gas-explosion-that-killed-two-year-old-caused-by-cut-gas-pipe



Criminal investigation - the police might have in mind Gross
Negligence Manslaughter, for example.

Seeing as how the people who lived in the house are still in a
critical condition, there may never be any prosecution. And, what
would it achieve anyway?

Bearing in mind that the explosion was at 2AM, the most likely
scenario is a very small nick in the pipe that let gas accumulate once
everyone had gone to bed. I take my hat off to anyone able to work out
the cause of the explosion in that wreckage.

Copper melts at a very high temperature, I'm sure a nick in a pipe would
remain visible.

Perhaps gas bubble testers should be mandatory?

I disturbed a lead pipe carrying gas some years ago which created a leak.

I did that by hammering a floor board nail in one side of a pipe and out
of the other :-)

(Mother had just had all the gas pipes replaced, and I was going round
re-fixing the floor boards. One board was a bit mangled in the corner,
so I nailed nearer the middle of the board. That went in rather too
easily. Only then did it occur to me why - the new pipes were not
beneath the suspended floor, but sat in notches in the top of the
joists, and in this case parallel to the floor board)

Thankfully the floorboards were up and I could smell the gas a few hours
later, to discover the sweated T-joint was poor quality and could see a
small gap between the pipes.

Listening carefully for the faint hiss, followed by a small of gas was
enough evidence in this case.

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Cheers,

John.

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On 25/05/2021 14:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 25/05/2021 13:58, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/05/2021 12:50, GB wrote:
On 25/05/2021 12:37, Andy Burns wrote:
fred wrote:

Serious explosion bellied caused by cut gas pipe. How ? Presumably it
was in error but what would you be doing for that to happen?

"criminal investigation"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/24/lancashire-gas-explosion-that-killed-two-year-old-caused-by-cut-gas-pipe



Criminal investigation - the police might have in mind Gross
Negligence Manslaughter, for example.

Seeing as how the people who lived in the house are still in a
critical condition, there may never be any prosecution. And, what
would it achieve anyway?

Bearing in mind that the explosion was at 2AM, the most likely
scenario is a very small nick in the pipe that let gas accumulate
once everyone had gone to bed. I take my hat off to anyone able to
work out the cause of the explosion in that wreckage.

Copper melts at a very high temperature, I'm sure a nick in a pipe
would remain visible.

Perhaps gas bubble testers should be mandatory?

I disturbed a lead pipe carrying gas some years ago which created a leak.

I did that by hammering a floor board nail in one side of a pipe and out
of the other :-)

and you looked sooo innocent in your recent pic.



(Mother had just had all the gas pipes replaced, and I was going round
re-fixing the floor boards. One board was a bit mangled in the corner,
so I nailed nearer the middle of the board. That went in rather too
easily. Only then did it occur to me why - the new pipes were not
beneath the suspended floor, but sat in notches in the top of the
joists, and in this case parallel to the floor board)

Thankfully the floorboards were up and I could smell the gas a few
hours later, to discover the sweated T-joint was poor quality and
could see a small gap between the pipes.

Listening carefully for the faint hiss, followed by a small of gas was
enough evidence in this case.

On 25/05/2021 15:04, Richard wrote:
On 25/05/2021 14:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 25/05/2021 13:58, Fredxx wrote:
On 25/05/2021 12:50, GB wrote:
On 25/05/2021 12:37, Andy Burns wrote:
fred wrote:

Serious explosion bellied caused by cut gas pipe. How ? Presumably it
was in error but what would you be doing for that to happen?

"criminal investigation"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/24/lancashire-gas-explosion-that-killed-two-year-old-caused-by-cut-gas-pipe



Criminal investigation - the police might have in mind Gross
Negligence Manslaughter, for example.

Seeing as how the people who lived in the house are still in a
critical condition, there may never be any prosecution. And, what
would it achieve anyway?

Bearing in mind that the explosion was at 2AM, the most likely
scenario is a very small nick in the pipe that let gas accumulate
once everyone had gone to bed. I take my hat off to anyone able to
work out the cause of the explosion in that wreckage.

Copper melts at a very high temperature, I'm sure a nick in a pipe
would remain visible.

Perhaps gas bubble testers should be mandatory?

I disturbed a lead pipe carrying gas some years ago which created a
leak.

I did that by hammering a floor board nail in one side of a pipe and
out of the other :-)

and you looked sooo innocent in your recent pic.


I probably was then :-)


--
Cheers,

John.

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