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Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a
fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. -- Adam |
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On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote:
Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. Customer or house? So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW
wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. I assume you told her all the sockets would need to be changed. |
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On 26/04/2021 19:42, Richard wrote:
On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. Customer or house? Have a look at an early (full of ads sorry fella) early 60's installation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...on-bikini.html Now when conducing an EICR you have to consider the safety and condition of the installation and give a date when it next needs inspecting. The Welsh bra is only a C3. The condition of the the contents of the bra is a FI. -- Adam |
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On 26/04/2021 20:16, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. Moral?: always get your customers to demonstrate the fault before you start to fix it. Like the ones that got a tingling feeling when they put their arms in the fish pond and said the deeper their arms were in the water the bigger the tingling sensation? -- Adam |
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So what on earth, pun intended is the problem to make such sparks. Any
normal person would get the power cord and plug changed I'd have thought. I had a knock off Dell psu whose low voltage lead went this way due to over zealous use of plastic welding into the plug. Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "ARW" wrote in message ... Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. -- Adam |
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Define a normal person?
On 26/04/2021 21:09, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: So what on earth, pun intended is the problem to make such sparks. Any normal person would get the power cord and plug changed I'd have thought. I had a knock off Dell psu whose low voltage lead went this way due to over zealous use of plastic welding into the plug. Brian -- Adam |
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On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote:
So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" You need to change all the sockets! ![]() |
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On 26/04/2021 23:02, R D S wrote:
On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote: So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" You need to change all the sockets! ![]() +1 LOL |
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On 26/04/2021 20:24, ARW wrote:
On 26/04/2021 19:42, Richard wrote: On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. Customer or house? Have a look at an early (full of ads sorry fella) early 60's installation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...on-bikini.html Now when conducing an EICR you have to consider the safety and condition of the installation and give a date when it next needs inspecting. The Welsh bra is only a C3. The condition of the the contents of the bra is a FI. ![]() |
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On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote:
Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. so you didn't charge her obviously ? ... |
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On 26/04/2021 20:16, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. Moral?: always get your customers to demonstrate the fault before you start to fix it. yes his fault ...so he won't have charged her..... |
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On 27/04/2021 08:34, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/04/2021 20:16, Chris Hogg wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. Moral?: always get your customers to demonstrate the fault before you start to fix it. yes his fault ...so he won't have charged her..... That depends on the instructions. If the customer asked to replace the socket then shouldn't it be replaced? If given the opportunity I might have asked 'why'. |
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Someone who doesn't draw a willy on his voting slip ?.
Andrew On 26/04/2021 21:52, ARW wrote: Define a normal person? On 26/04/2021 21:09, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote: So what on earth, pun intended is the problem to make such sparks. Any normal person would get the power cord and plug changed I'd have thought. Â* I had a knock off Dell psu whose low voltage lead went this way due to over zealous use of plastic welding into the plug. Â* Brian |
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On 27/04/2021 08:33, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. so you didn't charge her obviously ? ... Call-out fee, travelling, deep-cleaning, PPE, ... ? |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 20:24:53 +0100, ARW wrote:
On 26/04/2021 19:42, Richard wrote: On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. Customer or house? Have a look at an early (full of ads sorry fella) early 60's installation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Vorderman-60- puts-busty-display-TINY-Welsh-Dragon-bikini.html Now when conducing an EICR you have to consider the safety and condition of the installation and give a date when it next needs inspecting. The Welsh bra is only a C3. The condition of the the contents of the bra is a FI. Didn't know she had a funny eye.. |
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On 27/04/2021 18:02, jon wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 20:24:53 +0100, ARW wrote: On 26/04/2021 19:42, Richard wrote: On 26/04/2021 19:34, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. Customer or house? Have a look at an early (full of ads sorry fella) early 60's installation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-Vorderman-60- puts-busty-display-TINY-Welsh-Dragon-bikini.html Now when conducing an EICR you have to consider the safety and condition of the installation and give a date when it next needs inspecting. The Welsh bra is only a C3. The condition of the the contents of the bra is a FI. Didn't know she had a funny eye.. Over your head. -- Adam |
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![]() "Fredxx" wrote in message ... On 27/04/2021 08:34, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 26/04/2021 20:16, Chris Hogg wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. Moral?: always get your customers to demonstrate the fault before you start to fix it. yes his fault ...so he won't have charged her..... That depends on the instructions. If the customer asked to replace the socket then shouldn't it be replaced? Nope, not if replacing the socket wont fix the problem. If given the opportunity I might have asked 'why'. |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 05:17:15 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Nope LOL!!! Pathological senile cretin! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On 26/04/2021 20:24, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. I assume you told her all the sockets would need to be changed. :-) To be fair I did an earth loop on the socket before I swapped it. There was nothing to report as it was in expected values. I was thinking along the lines of dirty worn live or neutral earth connections on the sleeves of the socket. Now I did find two sockets on an EICR a few weeks ago that had no earth with the plug in earth loop test. The earth loop was fine if conducted on the terminals of the socket using the prongs. I took a few photos after stripping the socket down that I will post them over the weekend. The sockets had no earth when a socket was inserted! -- Adam |
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ARW wrote:
On 26/04/2021 20:24, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. I assume you told her all the sockets would need to be changed. :-) To be fair I did an earth loop on the socket before I swapped it. There was nothing to report as it was in expected values. I was thinking along the lines of dirty worn live or neutral earth connections on the sleeves of the socket. Now I did find two sockets on an EICR a few weeks ago that had no earth with the plug in earth loop test. The earth loop was fine if conducted on the terminals of the socket using the prongs. I took a few photos after stripping the socket down that I will post them over the weekend. The sockets had no earth when a socket was inserted! A plug surely? ;-) Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 29/04/2021 18:56, Tim+ wrote:
ARW wrote: On 26/04/2021 20:24, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:34:31 +0100, ARW wrote: Went to a job today where the customer said the landing socket made a fizzing noise when it was used. Late 60's early 70's build and probably the original socket. So I just swapped it. The customer then said "I'll go and get the hairdrier as that the only thing that makes it fizz. Mind you it does that to all the sockets in the house" FFS You could see the sparks on the hairdrier flex when she turned it on. I assume you told her all the sockets would need to be changed. :-) To be fair I did an earth loop on the socket before I swapped it. There was nothing to report as it was in expected values. I was thinking along the lines of dirty worn live or neutral earth connections on the sleeves of the socket. Now I did find two sockets on an EICR a few weeks ago that had no earth with the plug in earth loop test. The earth loop was fine if conducted on the terminals of the socket using the prongs. I took a few photos after stripping the socket down that I will post them over the weekend. The sockets had no earth when a socket was inserted! A plug surely? ;-) Thanks for that. I stripped down the back of the socket and inserted a plug to see what happened. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/...thonsocket.jpg -- Adam |
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