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williamwright wrote:
On 13/04/2021 17:03, Rod Speed wrote: Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase likelihood of mutation; "With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“ Thats mindless bull****. There arent that many variants. So yer a virologist now as well as a bighead? Bill https://nextstrain.org/sars-cov-2#sit-reps https://academic.oup.com/bioinformat...3/4121/5001388 See figure 1 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-tracker.html Someone here, maybe a year ago, showed a much nicer version of figure 1, with way more dots on it. It has the same mutation capability, as seasonal flu does. Seasonal flu, you can't use the same "vat of stew" as last year. The vat may say something like "H7N9" on the side, but it's not the exact same from year to year. And that's what we don't want to happen. We don't want this to be seasonal flu. But it's sure looking that way at times. The deal is, the mutations to date, have been pretty good to us. It didn't become as bad as measles (high infection rate), or we'd be ****ed. We'd all be on N95 masks if that happened. It's when you put "selection pressure" on a pest, that you find out what it's really made of. And whether it has staying power. Obviously, seasonal flu is a champ at what it does. Notice how this one, it successfully attacks multiple animals, but it's not really "optimized" for any of them, and then it's a matter of what the mutations do, as to whether it can "tune up" for the animal its in. That's why we're watching it, and making our little diagrams, to figure out whether it can be stamped out, or it is here to stay. The mutation capability is what matters. Not all mutations are viable. Some of them can't even reproduce. Even if a mutation can reproduce, if the body easily defeats it, it's still a dead end. And that's why the diagram doesn't have millions of dots, because the rubbish experiments it's doing, don't leave a trace. It's the successful ones, that get assigned a dot. And only the "variants of concern", that get their own portrait photo at the portrait studio. Paul |
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![]() "Paul" wrote in message ... williamwright wrote: On 13/04/2021 17:03, Rod Speed wrote: Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase likelihood of mutation; "With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“ Thats mindless bull****. There arent that many variants. So yer a virologist now as well as a bighead? https://nextstrain.org/sars-cov-2#sit-reps https://academic.oup.com/bioinformat...3/4121/5001388 See figure 1 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-tracker.html Someone here, maybe a year ago, showed a much nicer version of figure 1, with way more dots on it. It has the same mutation capability, as seasonal flu does. No it does not mutation rate wise. Seasonal flu, you can't use the same "vat of stew" as last year. The vat may say something like "H7N9" on the side, but it's not the exact same from year to year. And we know that that isnt what has happened with covid in its first year. And that's what we don't want to happen. We don't want this to be seasonal flu. But it's sure looking that way at times. No it isnt. The deal is, the mutations to date, have been pretty good to us. It didn't become as bad as measles (high infection rate), or we'd be ****ed. We'd all be on N95 masks if that happened. Nope, we can twiddle the vaccine much more quickly now. It's when you put "selection pressure" on a pest, that you find out what it's really made of. And whether it has staying power. Obviously, seasonal flu is a champ at what it does. Notice how this one, it successfully attacks multiple animals, but it's not really "optimized" for any of them, and then it's a matter of what the mutations do, as to whether it can "tune up" for the animal its in. That's why we're watching it, and making our little diagrams, to figure out whether it can be stamped out, or it is here to stay. The mutation capability is what matters. Some just die out like SARS did. Not all mutations are viable. Some of them can't even reproduce. Even if a mutation can reproduce, if the body easily defeats it, it's still a dead end. And that's why the diagram doesn't have millions of dots, because the rubbish experiments it's doing, don't leave a trace. It's the successful ones, that get assigned a dot. And only the "variants of concern", that get their own portrait photo at the portrait studio. |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 19:55:17 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread |
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