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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Were you shirtless and surrounded by broken glass? Or is that just how
they do it around these parts?

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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

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Snowed here.

Cheers


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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Snowed here.

Cheers



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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

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no apprentices, then?
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Very happy for you.... *******. ;-)

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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?


No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.

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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Were you shirtless and surrounded by broken glass? Or is that just how
they do it around these parts?


I was posh for the day and went to Lincoln.

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On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Were you shirtless and surrounded by broken glass? Or is that just how
they do it around these parts?


Friends sent me some photos of their visit to the pub today - in the pub
garden in the snow!

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So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

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I did exactly the same thing.

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On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Were you shirtless and surrounded by broken glass? Or is that just how
they do it around these parts?


I was posh for the day and went to Lincoln.

Funnily enough so did I.

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:33:39 +0100, ARW wrote:

So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Snowed here.

Cheers



I took my big coat just in case.


Yes I took mine.

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On 12/04/2021 19:31, R D S wrote:
On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Were you shirtless and surrounded by broken glass? Or is that just how
they do it around these parts?


Friends sent me some photos of their visit to the pub today - in the pub
garden in the snow!


Who says the British weather does not have a sense of humour? :-)


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On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?


No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.


Do you get any dyslexics attending that course?


It snowed when we did the practical test that was outdoors.




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And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in infections
as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in infections
as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.


Yep, it was manic. I kept well away.
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On 12/04/2021 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?


No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.

It snowed when we did the practical test that was outdoors.


Don't! You're bringing back memories - of checking the calibration of a
pressure transmitter, 80 feet up the outside of a factory, on a swaying
scaffold (accessed by a very long and bouncy ladder), during a howling
gale, with heavy snow, in the early 2000s. And it was a bloody Saturday
morning, I wasn't supposed to work Saturdays and didn't get paid overtime!

I also remember driving back from that, on the M62, when my washers
froze. Vehicles were kicking up all sorts of muck and I dared not use my
wipers, as they just smeared it and made it even worse.
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On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.


Were you shirtless and surrounded by broken glass? Or is that just how
they do it around these parts?


Friends sent me some photos of their visit to the pub today - in the pub
garden in the snow!


Somewhere, I have a photo of myself and a friend, sunbathing on top of a
boat on the Norfolk Broads. Typical postcard style - rolled up sleeves
and trousers and knotted handkerchiefs on our heads. Only when you look
closer can you see the heavy rain bouncing back up off the roof of the boat.
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in infections
as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.


Yep, it was manic. I kept well away.


Darwinism at work. ;-)

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I was posh for the day and went to Lincoln.


Nah then.... Lincoln? Posh?
By 'eck, duck, things must be bloody rough round your way if yer think this is posh!
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On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?


No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.

It snowed when we did the practical test that was outdoors.


So, I looked up IFAP, and found that it referred to MEWPs, so I looked
up MEWPs ....

I remember my father encouraging me to look up a word in the dictionary
when I was quite small. So, I looked it up, and there were three words
in the definition that I didn't understand. So, he told me to look those
up, too. We both learnt a lesson, that day, in the power of exponential
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And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in infections
as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.
Brian


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations from the
increased number of infections.


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And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections
as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.
Â* Brian


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations from the
increased number of infections.


We don't have to grow our own mutations, although we did that very
successfully in Kent last autumn. We can import mutations from overseas.
The Brazilians have some really impressive ones!

The P1 variation has brought Manaus to its knees a second time. 76% of
the population had antibodies after their first wave, and a large
proportion (estimated as 25-60%) of the current patients with the P1
variant are thought to have had Covid previously.




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On 12/04/2021 21:27, ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2021 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?


No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.

It snowed when we did the practical test that was outdoors.


So, I looked up IFAP, and found that it referred to MEWPs, so I looked
up MEWPs ....


It is an annoying term - what was wrong with the much more descriptive
Cherry Picker and Scissor Lift?

I remember my father encouraging me to look up a word in the dictionary
when I was quite small. So, I looked it up, and there were three words
in the definition that I didn't understand. So, he told me to look those
up, too.Â* We both learnt a lesson, that day, in the power of exponential
growth.


Try Engineering specifications that reference 20-odd Standards and Codes
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote


And judging by the reports in the media,
probably a huge surge in infections as well,
despite the pubs and shops best efforts.


Its like the January sales.


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.


That assumes most are vaccinated but that isnt true yet.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood
of mutations from the increased number of infections.


The mutations come from those with severely compromised
immune systems that take a long time to recover from the
virus or die from it now that treatment is so much better.
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Fredxx wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote


And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.


Its like the January sales.


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.


That assumes most are vaccinated but that isnt true yet.


But the ones who are vulnerable and most likely to die have.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations from
the increased number of infections.


The mutations come from those with severely compromised
immune systems that take a long time to recover from the
virus or die from it now that treatment is so much better.


That is a thought but I doubt you'll find a cite saying it is directly
caused by a severely compromised immune systems.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...mmune-systems/

Gives an account the patient showed that the virus evolved rapidly after
being given convalescent plasma.

This article:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...g-the-pandemic

Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase
likelihood of mutation;
"With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“
picking up a letter in its genetic code here, another being deleted
there or swapped for something different."



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Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote


And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.


Its like the January sales.


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.


That assumes most are vaccinated but that isnt true yet.


But the ones who are vulnerable and most likely to die have.


Thats not true, it still isnt clear who many
of the vulnerable and most likely to die are.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations from the
increased number of infections.


The mutations come from those with severely compromised
immune systems that take a long time to recover from the
virus or die from it now that treatment is so much better.


That is a thought but I doubt you'll find a cite saying it is directly
caused by a severely compromised immune systems.


Fraid so.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...mmune-systems/


Gives an account the patient showed that the virus evolved rapidly after
being given convalescent plasma.


Thats not something that common at all so isnt
likely to have been the cause of most variants.

This article:


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...g-the-pandemic


Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase
likelihood of mutation;
"With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“


Thats mindless bull****. There arent that many variants.

picking up a letter in its genetic code here, another being deleted there
or swapped for something different."


Just more **** from some arts graduate like that other
steaming turd you waved around from the New Scientist.

They are clearly recruiting those who can write clear and
error free english but dont have any way of weeding out
those who wouldnt know what logic or analytical thought
was if it bit them on their collective lard arses.

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Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote


And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.


Its like the January sales.


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.


That assumes most are vaccinated but that isnt true yet.


But the ones who are vulnerable and most likely to die have.


Thats not true, it still isnt clear who many
of the vulnerable and most likely to die are.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations from
the increased number of infections.


The mutations come from those with severely compromised
immune systems that take a long time to recover from the
virus or die from it now that treatment is so much better.


That is a thought but I doubt you'll find a cite saying it is directly
caused by a severely compromised immune systems.


Fraid so.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...mmune-systems/


Gives an account the patient showed that the virus evolved rapidly
after being given convalescent plasma.


Thats not something that common at all so isnt
likely to have been the cause of most variants.

This article:


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...g-the-pandemic


Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase
likelihood of mutation;
Â* "With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“


Thats mindless bull****. There arent that many variants.


That's show your lack of knowledge. Most mutations will fail in one way
or another. The most successful mutation is one that doesn't kill the
host and lives indefinitely in the body.

picking up a letter in its genetic code here, another being deleted
there or swapped for something different."


Just more **** from some arts graduate like that other
steaming turd you waved around from the New Scientist.


Don't you like being shown you're wrong?


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Fredxx wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote


And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.


Its like the January sales.


Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.


That assumes most are vaccinated but that isnt true yet.


But the ones who are vulnerable and most likely to die have.


Thats not true, it still isnt clear who many
of the vulnerable and most likely to die are.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations from
the increased number of infections.


The mutations come from those with severely compromised
immune systems that take a long time to recover from the
virus or die from it now that treatment is so much better.


That is a thought but I doubt you'll find a cite saying it is directly
caused by a severely compromised immune systems.


Fraid so.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...mmune-systems/


Gives an account the patient showed that the virus evolved rapidly after
being given convalescent plasma.


Thats not something that common at all so isnt
likely to have been the cause of most variants.

This article:


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...g-the-pandemic


Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase
likelihood of mutation;
"With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“


Thats mindless bull****. There arent that many variants.


That's show your lack of knowledge.


Bull****.

Most mutations will fail in one way or another.


Yes, but if they fail quickly, there would be no way to know that stupid
claim.

The most successful mutation is one that doesn't kill the host and lives
indefinitely in the body.


We havent seen any like that with this virus.

picking up a letter in its genetic code here, another being deleted
there or swapped for something different."


Just more **** from some arts graduate like that other
steaming turd you waved around from the New Scientist.


Don't you like being shown you're wrong?


You're projecting now given that you never had the balls
to admit that that New Scientist steaming turd you waved
around proved you wrong. Same with the virus in Sweden.

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Fredxx wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Fredxx wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.

Its like the January sales.

Maybe lots of infections but few hospitalisations.

That assumes most are vaccinated but that isnt true yet.

But the ones who are vulnerable and most likely to die have.

Thats not true, it still isnt clear who many
of the vulnerable and most likely to die are.

My main concern would be the increased likelihood of mutations
from the increased number of infections.

The mutations come from those with severely compromised
immune systems that take a long time to recover from the
virus or die from it now that treatment is so much better.

That is a thought but I doubt you'll find a cite saying it is
directly caused by a severely compromised immune systems.

Fraid so.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...mmune-systems/


Gives an account the patient showed that the virus evolved rapidly
after being given convalescent plasma.

Thats not something that common at all so isnt
likely to have been the cause of most variants.

This article:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...g-the-pandemic


Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase
likelihood of mutation;
Â* "With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“

Thats mindless bull****. There arent that many variants.


That's show your lack of knowledge.


Bull****.

Most mutations will fail in one way or another.


Yes, but if they fail quickly, there would be no way to know that stupid
claim.

The most successful mutation is one that doesn't kill the host and
lives indefinitely in the body.


We havent seen any like that with this virus.


There are coronaviruses that are mere colds. So no reason to create a
vaccine against them and they are free to propagate without lockdowns or
anything sinister.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...19-cases-68146

picking up a letter in its genetic code here, another being deleted
there or swapped for something different."


Just more **** from some arts graduate like that other
steaming turd you waved around from the New Scientist.


Don't you like being shown you're wrong?


You're projecting now given that you never had the balls
to admit that that New Scientist steaming turd you waved
around proved you wrong.


Hardly a turd, it was an example of a mutation that occurred indirectly
through a compromised immune system. I don't see how one example changes
the validity of my post. However much you might wish otherwise.

We have a choice, accept an article in the New Scientist or a senile
phool in Australia posting to a UK newsgroup. Tough one isn't it?

Same with the virus in Sweden.


That's right, you didn't understand the meaning of 'rate'.
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On 12/04/2021 21:27, ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2021 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?

No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.

It snowed when we did the practical test that was outdoors.


So, I looked up IFAP, and found that it referred to MEWPs, so I looked
up MEWPs ....


It is an annoying term - what was wrong with the much more descriptive
Cherry Picker and Scissor Lift?


Too many types. I did 3a and 3b. PAV thrown in for free.

So I cannot use ones with stabilisers - or in English I cannot use a
static boom.


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On 13/04/2021 14:23, Steve Walker wrote:
On 13/04/2021 12:21, GB wrote:
On 12/04/2021 21:27, ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2021 20:57, newshound wrote:
On 12/04/2021 18:33, ARW wrote:
So I took a day off work and went to the pub.

The sun on your back and a pint in your hand and with good company.



no apprentices, then?

No. But I had one on Saturday when we did the IPAF course.

It snowed when we did the practical test that was outdoors.


So, I looked up IFAP, and found that it referred to MEWPs, so I looked
up MEWPs ....


It is an annoying term - what was wrong with the much more descriptive
Cherry Picker and Scissor Lift?


Doesn't really cover all the modern kit such as mast lifts?


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On 13/04/2021 09:02, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.


Yep, it was manic. I kept well away.


The pubs will be the first to be blamed if the infection rate rises.

It will of course have nothing to do with gyms, shoppers or snotty nosed
school kids.



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On 13/04/2021 19:28, ARW wrote:
On 13/04/2021 09:02, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.


Yep, it was manic. I kept well away.


The pubs will be the first to be blamed if the infection rate rises.

It will of course have nothing to do with gyms, shoppers or snotty nosed
school kids.


The "snotty nosed school kids" have already been at school for a while
so can't possible attract any blame.

Of course opening everything else at once just means directed blame
becomes easier.


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On 13/04/2021 19:28, ARW wrote:
On 13/04/2021 09:02, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.


Yep, it was manic. I kept well away.


The pubs will be the first to be blamed if the infection rate rises.


Yep, that's why the infection rate was so high during all the months
that the pubs were shut


It will of course have nothing to do with gyms, shoppers or snotty nosed
school kids.


The novelty of sitting in cold pub garden seems to have worn off very
quickly. I passed 5 pubs today (12:30 to 1pm), all with outside seating
and saw a total of 3 customers


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On 13/04/2021 16:06, Fredxx wrote:
This article:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...g-the-pandemic


Highlights it is the number and duration of infection that increase
likelihood of mutation;
Â* "With almost every person it infects, the virus changes very subtly €“
picking up a letter in its genetic code here, another being deleted
there or swapped for something different."


I read that quote and immediately distrust the article.

The code is sets of 3 letters. If you delete one then you scramble the
rest of it - you have to delete (or insert) a multiple of 3.

Deletions and insertions are rare compared with substitutions.

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On 13/04/2021 19:28, ARW wrote:
On 13/04/2021 09:02, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Brian Gaff (Sofa) formulated the question :
And judging by the reports in the media, probably a huge surge in
infections as well, despite the pubs and shops best efforts.
Its like the January sales.


Yep, it was manic. I kept well away.


The pubs will be the first to be blamed if the infection rate rises.

It will of course have nothing to do with gyms, shoppers or snotty nosed
school kids.


All a part of it. However pubs are the only place that people spend
hours in close proximity, without masks, talking or even shouting over
the noise of other conversations and drinking, which lowers inhibitions
and reduces the chances of following rules.
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