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Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data, Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon.

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.


It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and more
for us.




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On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data, Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon.

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.


It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and more
for us.




It is a plain and simple FUD job done on a company that is cheaper and
ahead and threatens to destroy other pharma profits.


In the context of a global pandemic it is simply disgraceful behaviour
by Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson..,. who stand to gain most.


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On 30/03/2021 13:41, Tim Streater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2021 at 13:11:15 BST, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data, Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon.

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.


It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and more
for us.

It is a plain and simple FUD job done on a company that is cheaper and
ahead and threatens to destroy other pharma profits.

In the context of a global pandemic it is simply disgraceful behaviour
by Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson..,. who stand to gain most.


Apparently A-Z is reconsidering their no-profit approach for the future, since
all it's done is get them stick.


It has however gained them a lot of goodwill in the UK.
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On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data, Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon.

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.


A few days data, that was actually an improvement over the previous data.

It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and more
for us.


We've been here before. AZ are questioning their policy of manufacturing
not for profit, given the damage others, with vested interests,
slighting AZ.

I do feel with the EU, they could have been more honest about delivery
timescales.
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On 30/03/2021 13:41, Tim Streater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2021 at 13:11:15 BST, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data, Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon.

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.


It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and more
for us.

It is a plain and simple FUD job done on a company that is cheaper and
ahead and threatens to destroy other pharma profits.

In the context of a global pandemic it is simply disgraceful behaviour
by Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson..,. who stand to gain most.


Apparently A-Z is reconsidering their no-profit approach for the future, since
all it's done is get them stick.


You beat me to it with your post, that was my understanding too. It's
amazing what good PR can buy.




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On 30/03/2021 15:38, Fredxx wrote:
On 30/03/2021 13:41, Tim Streater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2021 at 13:11:15 BST, The Natural Philosopher

wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
* Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
* Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19
vaccine in
* only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the
pandemic,
* reported CNN.
* But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both
policymakers
* and health officials.
* The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of
the
* vaccine in clinical trials.
* The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial
information from
* public statements.
* U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca
vaccine data,
* saying it didnt include the most recent data.
* Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a
political
* fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.
* [They are] over promising and under delivering by massive
amounts, we all
* see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data,
Philippe
* Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
* Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a
company that
* cannot be relied upon.
* Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
* (NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated
data
* from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.
* It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it
and more
* for us.
It is a plain and simple FUD job done on a company that is cheaper and
ahead and threatens to destroy other pharma profits.

In the context of a global pandemic it is simply disgraceful behaviour
by Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson..,. who stand to gain most.


Apparently A-Z is reconsidering their no-profit approach for the
future, since
all it's done is get them stick.


You beat me to it with your post, that was my understanding too. It's
amazing what good PR can buy.


ISTR there was always a limitation on the "cost" offer anyway - it was
to be in place for the duration of the pandemic, but would be revised
once past that and into the endemic stage.


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On 30/03/2021 15:36, Fredxx wrote:

I do feel with the EU, they could have been more honest about delivery
timescales.


I doubt they expected to have the yield issues that they are currently
experiencing...


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On 30/03/2021 15:17, Steve Walker wrote:
On 30/03/2021 13:41, Tim Streater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2021 at 13:11:15 BST, The Natural Philosopher

wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
* Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
* Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19
vaccine in
* only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the
pandemic,
* reported CNN.
* But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both
policymakers
* and health officials.
* The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of
the
* vaccine in clinical trials.
* The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial
information from
* public statements.
* U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca
vaccine data,
* saying it didnt include the most recent data.
* Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a
political
* fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.
* [They are] over promising and under delivering by massive
amounts, we all
* see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data,
Philippe
* Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
* Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a
company that
* cannot be relied upon.
* Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
* (NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated
data
* from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.
* It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it
and more
* for us.
It is a plain and simple FUD job done on a company that is cheaper and
ahead and threatens to destroy other pharma profits.

In the context of a global pandemic it is simply disgraceful behaviour
by Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson..,. who stand to gain most.


Apparently A-Z is reconsidering their no-profit approach for the
future, since
all it's done is get them stick.


It has however gained them a lot of goodwill in the UK.


And may yet do the same in the commonwealth.

My sister in SA is furious. They are sitting on AZ (whom she used to
work for) and refusing to inoculate because of 'fears about the efficacy)

Now the ANC are not the brightest bulbs in the box, but they are
completely corrupt.

AZ simply haven't filled the brown envelopes. Pfizer have.




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I just feel from listening to people who were involved that it was just good
old human error on the paperwork. No company wouldwant to shoot itself in
the foot by making an unsafe product after all, not in today's sue everyone
culture.
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Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine data,
saying it didn't include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

"[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data," Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBC's "Today
Programme," reported the Express. "So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon."

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented "outdated" data
from a trial of the vaccine's effectiveness.


It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and more
for us.






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On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the
pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information
from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine
data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we
all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data, Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon.

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.


A few days data, that was actually an improvement over the previous data.

It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and
more
for us.


We've been here before. AZ are questioning their policy of manufacturing
not for profit, given the damage others, with vested interests, slighting
AZ.

I do feel with the EU, they could have been more honest about delivery
timescales.


They had a problem with the vaccine manufacturing so couldnt be.



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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 30/03/2021 15:17, Steve Walker wrote:
On 30/03/2021 13:41, Tim Streater wrote:
On 30 Mar 2021 at 13:11:15 BST, The Natural Philosopher

wrote:

On 30/03/2021 12:11, jon wrote:
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19
vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the
pandemic,
reported CNN.
But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both
policymakers
and health officials.
The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of
the
vaccine in clinical trials.
The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial
information from
public statements.
U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine
data,
saying it didnt include the most recent data.
Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a
political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.
[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts,
we all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data,
Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBCs Today
Programme, reported the Express. So everything points to a company
that
cannot be relied upon.
Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented outdated
data
from a trial of the vaccines effectiveness.
It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it
and more
for us.
It is a plain and simple FUD job done on a company that is cheaper and
ahead and threatens to destroy other pharma profits.

In the context of a global pandemic it is simply disgraceful behaviour
by Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson..,. who stand to gain most.

Apparently A-Z is reconsidering their no-profit approach for the future,
since
all it's done is get them stick.


It has however gained them a lot of goodwill in the UK.


And may yet do the same in the commonwealth.

My sister in SA is furious. They are sitting on AZ (whom she used to work
for) and refusing to inoculate because of 'fears about the efficacy)

Now the ANC are not the brightest bulbs in the box, but they are
completely corrupt.

AZ simply haven't filled the brown envelopes. Pfizer have.


Thats mindless bull****. The AZ is rather less effective
against the South African variant than the Pfizer.

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

I just feel from listening to people who were involved that it was just
good old human error on the paperwork.


Not the paperwork so much as what was actually in the vials.

No company wouldwant to shoot itself in the foot by making an unsafe
product after all,


Or look incompetent.

not in today's sue everyone culture.


"jon" wrote in message ...
Astra Zeneca becomes controversial after missteps
Astra Zeneca has likely produced a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine in
only 9 months, a significant achievement that could help end the
pandemic,
reported CNN.

But missteps along the way have led to criticism from both policymakers
and health officials.

The drug maker mistakenly gave some volunteers only half a dose of the
vaccine in clinical trials.

The company has also been criticized for omitting crucial information
from
public statements.

U.S. regulators have questioned the accuracy of Astra Zeneca vaccine
data,
saying it didn't include the most recent data.

Additionally, severe production delays in Europe have created a political
fire storm and breakdown in relations with EU leaders.

"[They are] over promising and under delivering by massive amounts, we
all
see that they have bundled up at least twice their test data," Philippe
Lamberts, a member of the European Parliament, told the BBC's "Today
Programme," reported the Express. "So everything points to a company that
cannot be relied upon."

Meanwhile, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
(NIAID) expressed concerns that Astra Zeneca presented "outdated" data
from a trial of the vaccine's effectiveness.


It would be a good way to stop the Yanks and EU from demanding it and
more
for us.






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