On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke car types that
are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new tyres have a 100% VAT put on them.

On 10/03/2021 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke car types that
are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new tyres have a 100% VAT put on them.

Are you suggesting a manufacturer would make their tyres irreparable? I
don't get your point?

Practicalities of custom and practice, and of course safety will always
feature.

"Fredxx" wrote in message
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On 10/03/2021 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke car
types that are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new tyres
have a 100% VAT put on them.

Are you suggesting a manufacturer would make their tyres irreparable? I
don't get your point?

I didnt the first time I read it, but do now. He is suggesting
that we should be encouraged to retread tyres by having a
100% VAT on new ones. Clearly he doesnt own a car.

Practicalities of custom and practice, and of course safety will always
feature.

On 10/03/2021 22:08, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxx" wrote in message
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On 10/03/2021 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like
apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Â* Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke
car types that are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new
tyres have a 100% VAT put on them.

Are you suggesting a manufacturer would make their tyres irreparable?
I don't get your point?

I didnt the first time I read it, but do now. He is suggesting
that we should be encouraged to retread tyres by having a
100% VAT on new ones. Clearly he doesnt own a car.

I see, if it save resources then I don't see the issue in a 100% duty.
However, old tyres do have alternative uses, such as tiles. Not all go
to landfill.

Practicalities of custom and practice, and of course safety will
always feature.

"Fredxx" wrote in message
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On 10/03/2021 22:08, Rod Speed wrote:


"Fredxx" wrote in message
...
On 10/03/2021 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be
an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like
apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative
is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke
car types that are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new
tyres have a 100% VAT put on them.

Are you suggesting a manufacturer would make their tyres irreparable? I
don't get your point?

I didnt the first time I read it, but do now. He is suggesting
that we should be encouraged to retread tyres by having a
100% VAT on new ones. Clearly he doesnt own a car.

I see, if it save resources then I don't see the issue in a 100% duty.

I do when only fools use retread car tyres anymore.

However, old tyres do have alternative uses,

Yeah, slum dwellers sometimes use them to keep the roof on.
https://www.alamy.com/slums-in-sweet...150353732.html

such as tiles.

And some very rugged flip flops/sandals in the 3rd world.

Not all go to landfill.

Practicalities of custom and practice, and of course safety will always
feature.

On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:55:50 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke car types that
are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new tyres have a 100% VAT put on them.
Are you suggesting a manufacturer would make their tyres irreparable? I
don't get your point?

How often could you take a tyre to be repaired rather than replaced. I don't know.
Why do people buy new tyres ?


Practicalities of custom and practice, and of course safety will always
feature.

It also depends on the product I guess. I doubt many would want a mobile phone the size
of the 1980s models.

I have a 12 year old washing machine it sort of works but can take 12 hours to do a cycle,
but sometimes just the usual time, they don;t make spare parts for it anymore.

My fridge freezer is 10 years old and not very efficint electricity wise.
I doubyt it's worth replacing the motor and the rubber door seals and sanding down the
rusting edges of the door and redoing and then theirs the broken egg tray.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:55:50 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 13:49, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 at 13:44:40 UTC, Fredxx wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:50, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 10/03/2021 12:39, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:43:47 +0000, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

On 10/03/2021 08:49, Jeff Layman wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56340077

Will this make any practical difference?

Hopefully.

Apple needs to change its ways.

Making their batteries user replaceable would be a start.

Making all parts third party replaceable as well.

Apple is now locking part compatibility in software, you need to be
an
authorized Apple Tech to make major part changes to a device.
Perhaps the tax regime should be different for manufacturers like
apple,
where a super VAT band is introduced for ones not conforming.

There is no point in forcing Apple to conform, where the alternative
is
that they, or perhaps their users, pay handsomely for the privilege.

Not very practical. Of course you could apply this to things lioke car
types that
are dumped, you have to get the old ones repaied new tyres have a 100%
VAT put on them.
Are you suggesting a manufacturer would make their tyres irreparable? I
don't get your point?

How often could you take a tyre to be repaired rather than replaced.

Most of the time with a puncture. None of the time when the tread is gone.

I don't know.

Nothing new there.

Why do people buy new tyres ?

Because retreads are useless now and some
damage means its not practical to repair.

Practicalities of custom and practice, and
of course safety will always feature.

It also depends on the product I guess.
I doubt many would want a mobile
phone the size of the 1980s models.

I have a 12 year old washing machine it sort of works but
can take 12 hours to do a cycle, but sometimes just the
usual time, they don;t make spare parts for it anymore.

Thats when you get the part you need from a scrapped one.

My fridge freezer is 10 years old and not very efficint electricity wise.
I doubyt it's worth replacing the motor

The problem isnt the motor.

and the rubber door seals and sanding down
the rusting edges of the door and redoing

That is if your time is free.

and then theirs the broken egg tray.

Usually quite easy to fix if you still have the pieces.

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