https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]

There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

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On 02/03/2021 08:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

just asking the question based on the evidence.....

Jimmy Stewart ... wrote

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Corse they are, just like you hairy legged cross dressing haggis
gorgers as as regards skin cancer when exposed to lots of sun etc.

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In article ,
Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 02/03/2021 08:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

just asking the question based on the evidence.....

More like using 'evidence' to support a prejudice.

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Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 02/03/2021 08:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood
types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

just asking the question based on the evidence.....

Did you look further than your nose ?

Using Worldometer, I discovered that Darkies in
a Darkie country had half the death rate of Canadians,
from the COVID.

That tells you that sometimes, it's environment,
not genetics, that makes the difference. Maybe
living in the UK, with Deep Fried Mars Bars, isn't
good for you.

In that video clip you watched, how much science was
there ? And how much complaining ?

Not everyone is in a favorable socioeconomic situation
to eat well. I bet if you interviewed white scum,
you'd find just as many premature deaths there.
But we choose not to do that sort of analysis.
Rich white against poor white.

My uncle is 93. He has got to be the oldest male
ever, in both sides of the family tree. How does he
do it ? Well, he was blessed with a disease. He
has very few foods he can eat, without digestive
upset. His digestive system tells him how he is
to live. He is as thin as a rake. And... he's going
to live forever. That's an example of environment
at work. The genetics for males in the family
are terrible. He has now lived one year longer,
than the longest lived female. I don't think this
is a fluke. He won't be eating any Deep Fried
Mars bars. It doesn't matter what country he
lives in, his body will force him to eat right.

And no, I don't have a list of what he can eat.

*******

The sickle cell trait of blacks, is an adaptation
for malaria. It's a result of living in malaria
country for long enough, for evolution to favor
a modification against malaria. Presumably, if
they live long enough in non-malaria countries,
the trait will be less-favored.

*******

https://www.sicklecellsociety.org/coronavirus-and-scd/

"How many people with inherited anaemias have had Covid-19?"

"The picture is not yet complete"

"the available results show that of the 263 patients (23rd September):
244 have recovered (93%)
15 have died (6%)
4 are currently inpatient or unknown (1%)
the people who died were more likely to have other medical
problems such as heart disease, cancer, kidney disease,
diabetes and high blood pressure

it is too early to say whether patients with inherited anaemias do
any worse than the general population

children with sickle cell disease, thalassaemia and rare anaemias
who do not have other risk factors, do not seem to be at increased
risk of having severe disease

it is important to note that there have been many people
with inherited anaemias who have had few or no symptoms
with their COVID-19 infection, and who have fully recovered
"

Paul

Paul wrote
Jimmy Stewart ... wrote
Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood
types are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably
deliberately trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in
the way many diseases affect different populations, and it is very
interesting and of course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or
your religion

just asking the question based on the evidence.....

Did you look further than your nose ?

Using Worldometer, I discovered that Darkies in a Darkie country had half
the death rate of Canadians, from the COVID.

Most likely because they dont bother to count why
most died, let alone have autopsys to determine that.

That tells you that sometimes, it's environment, not genetics, that makes
the difference.

Nope, not unless they count those killed by the virus properly.

Maybe living in the UK, with Deep Fried Mars Bars, isn't good for you.

If that was the case, there wouldnt be more darkies
being killed by the virus per head of population
because it isnt the darkies that eat more of those.

In that video clip you watched, how much science was there ?

Bet there was more than your stupid claim.

And how much complaining ?

Not everyone is in a favorable socioeconomic situation to eat well.

No evidence that eating well has any effect
on how likely you are to be killed by this virus.

I bet if you interviewed white scum, you'd find just as many premature
deaths there.

We know there arent with those killed by this virus.

But we choose not to do that sort of analysis.
Rich white against poor white.

More bull****, we do that all the time.

My uncle is 93. He has got to be the oldest male
ever, in both sides of the family tree. How does he do it ? Well, he was
blessed with a disease. He
has very few foods he can eat, without digestive
upset. His digestive system tells him how he is
to live. He is as thin as a rake. And... he's going
to live forever.

No chance. And being severely underweights dont do that.

That's an example of environment at work.

Nope, his genetics.

The genetics for males in the family are terrible.

Doesnt mean that his medical problem is environmental.

He has now lived one year longer,
than the longest lived female.

Thats not unusual, my dad did too.

I don't think this is a fluke.

It could well be.

He won't be eating any Deep Fried Mars bars.

None of mine ever have or anything close to that either.

It doesn't matter what country he lives in, his body will force him to eat
right.

But it could well be his genetics that has done
that and he clearly isnt eating right given that he is as
skinny as a rake and that has real longevity downsides.

And no, I don't have a list of what he can eat.

*******

The sickle cell trait of blacks, is an adaptation
for malaria. It's a result of living in malaria
country for long enough, for evolution to favor a modification against
malaria.

And has other significant health downsides.

Presumably, if they live long enough in non-malaria countries, the trait
will be less-favored.

Yes, because it has significant health downsides.

*******

https://www.sicklecellsociety.org/coronavirus-and-scd/

"How many people with inherited anaemias have had Covid-19?"

"The picture is not yet complete"

"the available results show that of the 263 patients (23rd September):
244 have recovered (93%)
15 have died (6%)
4 are currently inpatient or unknown (1%)
the people who died were more likely to have other medical problems
such as heart disease, cancer, kidney disease, diabetes and high blood
pressure

it is too early to say whether patients with inherited anaemias do any
worse than the general population

children with sickle cell disease, thalassaemia and rare anaemias who
do not have other risk factors, do not seem to be at increased risk of
having severe disease

it is important to note that there have been many people
with inherited anaemias who have had few or no symptoms
with their COVID-19 infection, and who have fully recovered
"

On 02/03/2021 07:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


A significant part of it could all come down to vitamin D deficiency. It
plays a key role in regulating the immune system. People with dark skin
living at higher latitudes are particularly vulnerable as they don't
absorb enough UV to make sufficient D.

No-one, white or black, gets enough in their diet alone.

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In article ,
Reentrant wrote:
On 02/03/2021 07:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


A significant part of it could all come down to vitamin D deficiency. It
plays a key role in regulating the immune system. People with dark skin
living at higher latitudes are particularly vulnerable as they don't
absorb enough UV to make sufficient D.

No-one, white or black, gets enough in their diet alone.

which is why SWMBO, a biologist, insisted I took a daily Vit D tablet last
autumn.

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"Jimmy Stewart ..." wrote in message
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On 02/03/2021 08:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood
types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

just asking the question based on the evidence.....

if it was simply a genetic thing, then the Covid deaths in countries where
what to us is an ethnic minority, make up the majority, would be higher

but they aren't

It must be a lifestyle thing

On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 07:51:36 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


I was very annoyed by this programme. The presenter was told that
there was nothing hereditary in 'people of colour' like him, it was
just that they tend to be in unhealthy surroundings. The presenter
seemed to think this was the Government's fault. As he produced the
programme I bet he isn't at any greater risk than your typical whitey.
--
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On 02/03/2021 09:02, Rod Speed wrote:
Jimmy Stewart ... wrote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


Corse they are, just like you hairy legged cross dressing haggis
gorgers as as regards skin cancer when exposed to lots of sun etc.
na not the reason

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"Jimmy Stewart ..." wrote in message
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On 02/03/2021 08:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood
types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and
of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

just asking the question based on the evidence.....

if it was simply a genetic thing, then the Covid deaths in countries where
what to us is an ethnic minority, make up the majority, would be higher

but they aren't

That isnt clear given that most of those dont have proper autopsys
to determine why most die, or even decent death stats either.

It must be a lifestyle thing

Wrong.

"Jimmy Stewart ..." wrote in message
...
On 02/03/2021 09:02, Rod Speed wrote:
Jimmy Stewart ... wrote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]

Corse they are, just like you hairy legged cross dressing haggis
gorgers are as regards skin cancer when exposed to lots of sun etc.

na not the reason

Corse it is with you hairy legged cross dressing haggis gorgers
are as regards skin cancer when exposed to lots of sun etc.

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On 03/03/2021 16:11, tim... wrote:
if it was simply a genetic thing, then the Covid deaths in countries
where what to us is an ethnic minority, make up the majority, would be
higher

but they aren't

Actually, they are. Brazil in particular is in dire straits.
But no one actually knows, because 'they' are also inferior at testing
and identifying...



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On 03/03/2021 17:02, Dave W wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 07:51:36 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]

I was very annoyed by this programme. The presenter was told that
there was nothing hereditary in 'people of colour' like him, it was
just that they tend to be in unhealthy surroundings. The presenter
seemed to think this was the Government's fault. As he produced the
programme I bet he isn't at any greater risk than your typical whitey.


The rationale goes like this.

It is *offensive* to consider that a persons color has any meaning
beyond chromatic.

Therefore if they underperform in any way, it's down to bigotry and
institutional racism, not because they are crap.

Therefore if they get more ill in any way, it's down to
oppression/poverty, not because they are born vulnerable.

Since the original assumption is as much an article of faith as the
deepest bigotry of a white supremacist, there is nothing more to be said.

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Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


Here is a gentleman who is *immune* to COVID,
with no injection. His antibodies are strong
enough, they can be diluted 10,000 times, and
still work. And they continue to take blood
samples, to see how long this effect lasts
(or if it even declines at all).

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...d-19-1.5947880

And guess what colour he is.

This is why we study everything, to find clues.
In terms of a lock-and-key model, his immune
system recognizes something, that other peoples
immune systems do not.

More than one person has this. And we need to study
why that is, to make better vaccines (so we're not
playing catchup constantly). Right now, our vaccine
strategy looks like amateur-hour. Yes, the current vaccine
keeps people from becoming "very sick", but we
need something where, if someone coughs in your
face, you get to laugh it off. Now, that's a vaccine.

If everyone had his immune system, COVID would die right out.

Paul

On 03/03/2021 08:38, charles wrote:
In article ,
Reentrant wrote:
On 02/03/2021 07:51, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


A significant part of it could all come down to vitamin D deficiency. It
plays a key role in regulating the immune system. People with dark skin
living at higher latitudes are particularly vulnerable as they don't
absorb enough UV to make sufficient D.

No-one, white or black, gets enough in their diet alone.

which is why SWMBO, a biologist, insisted I took a daily Vit D tablet last
autumn.

As with everything, there can always be too much:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...101:-Vitamin-D

Paul wrote
Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]

Here is a gentleman who is *immune* to COVID, with no injection.

You dont know that with the worst variants.

His antibodies are strong enough, they can be diluted 10,000 times, and
still work. And they continue to take blood samples, to see how long this
effect lasts (or if it even declines at all).

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...d-19-1.5947880

Not exactly what you might call a peer reviewed scientific journal.

And guess what colour he is.

This is why we study everything, to find clues.
In terms of a lock-and-key model, his immune
system recognizes something, that other peoples
immune systems do not.

That mangles the real story.

More than one person has this. And we need to study why that is, to make
better vaccines (so we're not playing catchup constantly).

No evidence that he is immune to the worst
variants more than the best vaccines are.

Right now, our vaccine strategy looks like amateur-hour.

BULL****.

Yes, the current vaccine keeps people from becoming "very sick",

And dying.

but we need something where, if someone coughs in your face, you get to
laugh it off.

We have that already.

Now, that's a vaccine.

If everyone had his immune system, COVID would die right out.

You dont know that either.

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On Tuesday, 2 March 2021 at 08:30:11 UTC, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 02/03/2021 08:21, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There is an interesting survey I read last year that says some blood types
are affected more than others, I am sure you are probably deliberately
trolling in a racist manner but there are differences in the way many
diseases affect different populations, and it is very interesting and of
course has nothing whatever to do with your colour or your religion


Brian

just asking the question based on the evidence.....
well there's https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/sickle-cell-disease/

On 04/03/2021 06:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/03/2021 17:02, Dave W wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 07:51:36 +0000, "Jimmy Stewart ..."
wrote:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p097jfpw?xtor=ES-211-[42454_PANUK_NLT_09_SCO_IsCovidKillingPeopleofColou r_RET_O35]-20210302-[bbcone_davidharewoodwhyiscovidkillingpeopleofcolou rdoesbeingapersonofcolourincreaseyourhealthrisks_f actualhealthwellbeing]


I was very annoyed by this programme. The presenter was told that
there was nothing hereditary in 'people of colour' like him, it was
just that they tend to be in unhealthy surroundings. The presenter
seemed to think this was the Government's fault. As he produced the
programme I bet he isn't at any greater risk than your typical whitey.


The rationale goes like this.

It is *offensive* to consider that a persons color has any meaning
beyond chromatic.

colour


Therefore if they underperform in any way, it's down to bigotry and
institutional racism, not because they are crap.

Therefore if they get more ill in any way, it's down to
oppression/poverty, not because they are born vulnerable.

Since the original assumption is as much an article of faith as the
deepest bigotry of a white supremacist, there is nothing more to be said.