On 25/01/2021 15:39, R D S wrote:
On 25/01/2021 15:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
R D S expressed precisely :
I'm not anti-vax but i'd rather not be injected with something I
don't understand to fix a problem I don't see myself having.

How can you possibly determine that, lots of under 50's suffering and
dying from it? Do you feel lucky?

No, I simply see the odds as being stacked massively in my favour. And
that's backed up by the stats of just how many under 50s are dying from
it. I'm not going to search for the stats though, the daily death graphs
*have* been causing me ill health for the last 12 months.

Under 45 and you are roughly in the regularly driving UK roads for a
decade risk category. This is the URL for age related fatality risk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Primary school pupils are more likely to die in an RTC on the way to
school than they are to die of Covid.

Obviously you and anyone else must feel free to take the vaccine, I have
no motivation to talk you out of it, but would like to hang onto the
right to be reluctant, if that's OK?

I think now that we are close to 10 million vaccinations worldwide so
that any nasty surprises would have come out by now. I'd prefer the
Pfizer vaccine myself but I'd happily take any that were offered. YMMV

It will be ages before they offer Covid vaccination to healthy under
45's. Indeed they may never get around to it if they manage to get the
hospitalisation and death rates under control by only vaccinating those
at highest risk first and then summer arrives like the cavalry.

Only time will tell. No reason to fear the vaccine unless you are
actually allergic to almost everything. If you have to carry an epipen
round with you then you should make the vaccination team aware.

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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On 25/01/2021 15:39, R D S wrote:
On 25/01/2021 15:08, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
R D S expressed precisely :
I'm not anti-vax but i'd rather not be injected with something I don't
understand to fix a problem I don't see myself having.

How can you possibly determine that, lots of under 50's suffering and
dying from it? Do you feel lucky?

No, I simply see the odds as being stacked massively in my favour. And
that's backed up by the stats of just how many under 50s are dying from
it. I'm not going to search for the stats though, the daily death graphs
*have* been causing me ill health for the last 12 months.

Under 45 and you are roughly in the regularly driving UK roads for a
decade risk category. This is the URL for age related fatality risk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Primary school pupils are more likely to die in an RTC on the way to
school than they are to die of Covid.

Obviously you and anyone else must feel free to take the vaccine, I have
no motivation to talk you out of it, but would like to hang onto the
right to be reluctant, if that's OK?

I think now that we are close to 10 million vaccinations worldwide so that
any nasty surprises would have come out by now.

Not with longer term effects of the vaccine.

I'd prefer the Pfizer vaccine myself but I'd happily take any that were
offered. YMMV

It will be ages before they offer Covid vaccination to healthy under 45's.
Indeed they may never get around to it if they manage to get the
hospitalisation and death rates under control by only vaccinating those at
highest risk first and then summer arrives like the cavalry.

Unlikely imo. Its much more likely that they will try to
vaccinate most with such an infectious disease, so that
we can return to normal again. But it remains to be
seen how long the vaccination gives immunity for.

Or even if it does stop you getting infected. All we know
yet is that it does stop severe disease if you get infected.

Only time will tell. No reason to fear the vaccine unless you are actually
allergic to almost everything.

That's not true either with the Pfizer which has a known
component which does produce anaphylaxis in a few.

If you have to carry an epipen round with you then you should make the
vaccination team aware.

It isnt just those that can get a reaction to the Pfizer
vaccine and that can kill you if they don't bother to
observe you for 15 minutes after the vaccination
because its too hard to do that and socially isolate.

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In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
Under 45 and you are roughly in the regularly driving UK roads for a
decade risk category. This is the URL for age related fatality risk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Primary school pupils are more likely to die in an RTC on the way to
school than they are to die of Covid.

You need to be aware that many - including the young - can have pretty
severe conditions resulting from having Covid. And can be long lasting too
- maybe for the rest of that life. It's known as Long Covid, and no
accurate statistics available yet. Oddly one of the few people I know
personally who have had Covid and recovered suffers from it.

And even if you do recover, it can be a very unpleasant illness to have.

To summarise, dying from it is not the only thing to consider.

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On 27/01/2021 14:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
Under 45 and you are roughly in the regularly driving UK roads for a
decade risk category. This is the URL for age related fatality risk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Primary school pupils are more likely to die in an RTC on the way to
school than they are to die of Covid.

You need to be aware that many - including the young - can have pretty
severe conditions resulting from having Covid. And can be long lasting too
- maybe for the rest of that life. It's known as Long Covid, and no
accurate statistics available yet. Oddly one of the few people I know
personally who have had Covid and recovered suffers from it.

All the more reason to vaccinate the 10 to 35 YO's first. They have
longer to live and will cost the taxpayer far more if they end
up with longterm issues. Also means schools can re-open.

"Andrew" wrote in message
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On 27/01/2021 14:42, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Martin Brown wrote:
Under 45 and you are roughly in the regularly driving UK roads for a
decade risk category. This is the URL for age related fatality risk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Primary school pupils are more likely to die in an RTC on the way to
school than they are to die of Covid.

You need to be aware that many - including the young - can have pretty
severe conditions resulting from having Covid. And can be long lasting
too
- maybe for the rest of that life. It's known as Long Covid, and no
accurate statistics available yet. Oddly one of the few people I know
personally who have had Covid and recovered suffers from it.

All the more reason to vaccinate the 10 to 35 YO's first.

Nope, those over 65 get a much worse result.

They have longer to live and will cost the taxpayer far more if they end
up with longterm issues.

But doesnt stop the elderly dying of it.

Also means schools can re-open.

Nope.

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