Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is no
longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my system.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the option
to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(

Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?
--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:

Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is no
longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my system.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the option
to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(

Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

if you go into thunderbird, help, troubleshooting info

look for profile folder and click open folder

if it was a pop3 account, look in the "Mail" subfolder
if it was an imap4 account look under the "ImapMail" subfolder

then look for the next level of subfolder down, to have a name related
to demon, and have you got large .msf files in there?

or .sbd folders another layer down, wih .msf files within those?

copy the entire profile folder somewhere else before you start fiddling!

On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is no
longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my system.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the option
to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(

Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbir...eleted_Account

Your profile folder should be here
%APPDATA%\Thunderbird\Profile

Mine's a little more complicated as I have a profile in the usual place
but the mail directory is on a data drive that is backed up.

I really do recommend backing up areas like these. Ideally on a drive
not co-located with your computer. You can use a program like
FreeFileSync to backup and WinMerge to compare directories. They are
also useful to see which files change after a catastrophic even like an
unintended deletion.

On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is no
longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail at
startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the option
to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(

Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.



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Cheers,

John.

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In message , Fredxx
writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is
no longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my
system.
Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
option to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(
Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbir...eleted_Account

Your profile folder should be here
%APPDATA%\Thunderbird\Profile

Mine's a little more complicated as I have a profile in the usual place
but the mail directory is on a data drive that is backed up.

I really do recommend backing up areas like these. Ideally on a drive
not co-located with your computer. You can use a program like
FreeFileSync to backup and WinMerge to compare directories. They are
also useful to see which files change after a catastrophic even like an
unintended deletion.

I do a monthly system backup to a remote hard drive. The last change to
this particular data would be May last year. I would like to retain
access as it covers legal exchanges during a very protracted house sale!

--
Tim Lamb

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is
no longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my
system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail at
startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
option to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(
Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a younger
brain to turn up.





--
Tim Lamb

In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is
no longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail at
startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
option to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(
Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a younger
brain to turn up.

As there was a convenient *system restore* date I decided to go with the
Chickens. System now back as was.

So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back of
the queue? And move the active one to the top?

--
Tim Lamb

On 25/01/2021 21:55, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is
noÂ* longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my
system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail at
startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
optionÂ* to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as
well:-(
Â*Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a younger
brain to turn up.

As there was a convenient *system restore* date I decided to go with the
Chickens. System now back as was.

So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back of
the queue? And move the active one to the top?

Go to account settings (tools menu if you have it enabled, or right
click on the email address on the folder pane and choose settings)

Click Server Settings, then untick "Check for new messages at startup",
untick "Check for new messages every...", and untick "Automatically
download new messages".




--
Cheers,

John.

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On 25/01/2021 21:55, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is
noÂ* longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my
system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail at
startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
optionÂ* to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as
well:-(
Â*Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a younger
brain to turn up.

As there was a convenient *system restore* date I decided to go with the
Chickens. System now back as was.

So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back of
the queue? And move the active one to the top?

One thing you can do is move this message folder into a personal archive
folder. It can be 'Local' or some other account folder used for
historical stuff.

Once you've done that you can also delete the account whilst retaining
the emails.

Tim Lamb wrote:

So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back of
the queue? And move the active one to the top?

Under tools/add-ons search for "manually sort folders"

In message , Fredxx
writes
On 25/01/2021 21:55, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of
Tbird asking for the related password and then getting cross
because it is no* longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail
address from my system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail
at startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
option* to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as

*Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a
younger brain to turn up.
As there was a convenient *system restore* date I decided to go with
the Chickens. System now back as was.
So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back
of the queue? And move the active one to the top?

One thing you can do is move this message folder into a personal
archive folder. It can be 'Local' or some other account folder used for
historical stuff.

File handling has never been part of my limited competence:-(

Once you've done that you can also delete the account whilst retaining
the emails.

OK. John's solution works OK for now.

Thanks

--
Tim Lamb

In message , Andy Burns
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:

So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back of
the queue? And move the active one to the top?

Under tools/add-ons search for "manually sort folders"

OK Andy. I have gone with John's suggestion which has done the
necessary.
Thanks.

--
Tim Lamb

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 21:55, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of
Tbird asking for the related password and then getting cross
because it is no* longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail
address from my system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail
at startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
option* to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as

*Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a
younger brain to turn up.
As there was a convenient *system restore* date I decided to go with
the Chickens. System now back as was.
So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back
of the queue? And move the active one to the top?

Go to account settings (tools menu if you have it enabled, or right
click on the email address on the folder pane and choose settings)

Click Server Settings, then untick "Check for new messages at startup",
untick "Check for new messages every...", and untick "Automatically
download new messages".

Magic:-)

Thanks John. All is well.

--
Tim Lamb

Yes normally one would copy the messages out to another unrelated folder or
place before deletion, as I'm not sure what it does these days, but it used
to just delete everything.
What I'd like to see in that software is a way to configure hot keys to
anything you like so one could emulate say live mail, outlook express or
outlook etc, key presses to be able to use it straight out of the box.
Many of us keyboard users curse the apparently random choices of hot key
sequences used by software.
Brian

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Tim Lamb wrote:

Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is no
longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my system.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the option
to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(

Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

if you go into thunderbird, help, troubleshooting info

look for profile folder and click open folder

if it was a pop3 account, look in the "Mail" subfolder
if it was an imap4 account look under the "ImapMail" subfolder

then look for the next level of subfolder down, to have a name related to
demon, and have you got large .msf files in there?

or .sbd folders another layer down, wih .msf files within those?

copy the entire profile folder somewhere else before you start fiddling!

On 26/01/2021 08:41, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Fredxx
writes
On 25/01/2021 21:55, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , John
Rumm writes
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of
TbirdÂ* asking for the related password and then getting cross
because it isÂ* noÂ* longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail
address from myÂ* system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail
atÂ* startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
optionÂ* to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as
Â*Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

OK All. Thanks. Now I know the stuff is safe, I may wait for a
youngerÂ* brain to turn up.
Â*As there was a convenient *system restore* date I decided to go with
theÂ* Chickens. System now back as was.
Â*So how do I tell Thunderbird to move that dead address to the back
ofÂ* the queue? And move the active one to the top?

One thing you can do is move this message folder into a personal
archive folder. It can be 'Local' or some other account folder used
for historical stuff.

File handling has never been part of my limited competence:-(

Once you've done that you can also delete the account whilst retaining
the emails.

OK. John's solution works OK for now.

If you have both accounts "live" in thunderbird, then you can drag and
drop messages between mail folders in thunderbird itself in most cases.
So creating a folder in your Local Folders section, and dragging the
messages you want to keep into that will move them out of the email
account into more general message storage.

(Previous solutions at the file system level were only needed when
dealing with files that were abandoned on the disk because the account
to which they belonged was deleted in thunderbird).




--
Cheers,

John.

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On 25/01/2021 19:48, John Rumm wrote:
On 25/01/2021 18:53, Tim Lamb wrote:
Following the demise of my demon.co.uk address and the faff of Tbird
asking for the related password and then getting cross because it is
no longer recognised, I decided to delete the mail address from my
system.

FWIW, just changing the options so that it does not check for mail at
startup, or periodically thereafter, would also stop it whinging.

Fine. It has gone. Sadly despite choosing what I thought was the
option to retain the saved messages, that seems to have gone as well:-(

Anyone know where the archive can be found and read?

Yup, like they said :

%appdata%\Thunderbird\profile\Profile ID.default\mail or imapmail.

Mine seems to be at E:\Thunderbird\Mail\mail.btinternet.com

And no mention of profile\Profile ID ?, but I deliberately put it
on E: rather than use the default of chuck everything on the C: drive.

You can just copy the files you want to be accessible into the
\mail\Local Folders directory. Say copy the inbox file from the old
demon account to there, and call it Demon Inbox or similar.

Andrew wrote:

Mine seems to be at E:\Thunderbird\Mail\mail.btinternet.com

And no mention of profile\Profile ID ?,
The idea behind the random profile IDs is to hinder anything trying to
plunder files from known fixed locations on the PC.