Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

On 03/01/2021 20:47, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Hot melt and car body filler?

:-)

On Sunday, 3 January 2021 at 20:47:42 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s for Airfix (and other) models?

I remember lots of glues - gripfix, croydex, copydex - but cannot recall the small solvent weld adhesive tubes!

On 03/01/2021 21:31, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 3 January 2021 at 20:47:42 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s for Airfix (and other) models?

I remember lots of glues - gripfix, croydex, copydex - but cannot recall the small solvent weld adhesive tubes!

I thought it was something like Poly Cement?

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:48:57 +0000, newshound
wrote:

On 03/01/2021 20:47, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Hot melt and car body filler?

:-)

I think you are thinking of one of Turnips planes.

(Although that would explain why he needs a Tesla battery to get them
in the air!) ;-)

Spruce Goose?

Cheers, T i m

On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill

What sort of model plane? The lightweight balsa and tissue paper ones
that fly or the polystyrene injection moulded ones that don't.

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On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 13:31:35 -0800 (PST), polygonum_on_google
wrote:

snip

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s for Airfix (and other) models?

I remember lots of glues - gripfix, croydex, copydex - but cannot recall the small solvent weld adhesive tubes!

Wasn't Airfixes own just called 'Polystyrene cement'?

Cheers, T i m

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 8:36:16 PM UTC, wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill
As everybody has said, it depends ... but if you are talking about 'classical'
balsa and ply planes, then:

- yellow aliphatic resin ('titebond'), a PVA variant
- contact adhesive
- cyanoacrylate 'superglue'
(most widely used listed first) will get you a long way.

There have no doubt been updates since I was last active, I am sure TNP will
be along soon to give you the 'benefit' of his knowledge (actually in this area he
is worth listening to)

J^n

On Sunday, 3 January 2021 at 22:18:39 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 13:31:35 -0800 (PST), polygonum_on_google
wrote:

snip

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s for Airfix (and other) models?

I remember lots of glues - gripfix, croydex, copydex - but cannot recall the small solvent weld adhesive tubes!
Wasn't Airfixes own just called 'Polystyrene cement'?

Cheers, T i m

That might have been what many used, but the local shop I went to had another make. (I don't remember seeing Airfix cement there. Only much later.) I have a feeling it had a number on it - as if there were three sorts - 1, 2 or 3. (Polystyrene, balsa and something else?) But that could be completely wrong.

On 03/01/2021 20:47, T i m wrote:
"Revell Contacta
Professional"

Thanks Tim. I'll order some. It isn't for me; it's just that certain
little guys seem to think that Grandad knows everything.

Bill

On 03/01/2021 21:31, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 3 January 2021 at 20:47:42 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s for Airfix (and other) models?

I remember lots of glues - gripfix, croydex, copydex - but cannot recall the small solvent weld adhesive tubes!

Britfix?

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On 03/01/2021 22:27, jkn wrote:
On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 8:36:16 PM UTC, wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill
As everybody has said, it depends ... but if you are talking about 'classical'
balsa and ply planes, then:

- yellow aliphatic resin ('titebond'), a PVA variant
- contact adhesive
- cyanoacrylate 'superglue'
(most widely used listed first) will get you a long way.

There have no doubt been updates since I was last active, I am sure TNP will
be along soon to give you the 'benefit' of his knowledge (actually in this area he
is worth listening to)

J^n

Somebody can cut and paste my 'list of adhesives' cos I can't be arsed.


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williamwright wrote:
On 03/01/2021 20:47, T i m wrote:
"Revell Contacta
Professional"

Thanks Tim. I'll order some. It isn't for me; it's just that certain
little guys seem to think that Grandad knows everything.

Bill

The brands weren't too important when I was a kid. The
plastic cement was a "solvent glue", that dissolved a bit
of the edge of the work, to join the pieces. The solvent
glue presumably being saturated with a similar plastic
to what you were gluing. When it dries, the idea is that
the plastic joint should be as strong as the plastic
next to it. (A good store keeps these tubes under the
counter, so glue sniffers don't steal them.)

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/cement...-testors-3501/

The fun part comes, when you get that glue on the windshield
of your new model. And you get a thumbprint there. I don't
know how many models I was given, where the windshield ended up
opaque, and the little pilot inside the plane, couldn't see
where he was going.

I notice they have a second compound for that now, which dries
"clear as glass". Now, where is the fun in that ? Some of my
friends, who were also given models, took great pride in
putting a filthy great thumbprint on their windshield.

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/clear-...ker-1-oz-3515/

Paul

Paul wrote
williamwright wrote
T i m wrote

"Revell Contacta Professional"

Thanks Tim. I'll order some. It isn't for me; it's just that certain
little guys seem to think that Grandad knows everything.

The brands weren't too important when I was a kid.

Yeah, I just used what came with the kit.

The plastic cement was a "solvent glue", that dissolved a bit of the edge
of the work, to join the pieces.

Yes.

The solvent glue presumably being saturated with a similar plastic to what
you were gluing.

Nope.

When it dries, the idea is that the plastic joint should be as strong as
the plastic next to it.

Yes.

(A good store keeps these tubes under the
counter, so glue sniffers don't steal them.)

Not then, no one was sniffing them then.

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/cement...-testors-3501/

The fun part comes, when you get that glue on the windshield of your new
model. And you get a thumbprint there. I don't know how many models I was
given, where the windshield ended up opaque, and the little pilot inside
the plane, couldn't see where he was going.

I notice they have a second compound for that now, which dries "clear as
glass". Now, where is the fun in that ? Some of my friends, who were also
given models, took great pride in putting a filthy great thumbprint on
their windshield.

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/clear-...ker-1-oz-3515/

On Monday, 4 January 2021 at 03:14:16 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/01/2021 21:31, polygonum_on_google wrote:
On Sunday, 3 January 2021 at 20:47:42 UTC, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s for Airfix (and other) models?

I remember lots of glues - gripfix, croydex, copydex - but cannot recall the small solvent weld adhesive tubes!

Britfix?

Yes - I think that was the one. Had not realised it was a Humbrol brand. But that makes sense as most of their paint was Humbrol.

Thank you

On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill

Balsa cement.

On 04/01/2021 08:32, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill

Balsa cement.
Not for plastic models


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Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s
for Airfix (and other) models?

Met-Pak

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williamwright wrote:
On 03/01/2021 20:47, T i m wrote:
"Revell Contacta
Professional"

Thanks Tim. I'll order some. It isn't for me; it's just that certain
little guys seem to think that Grandad knows everything.

Bill

indeed : my Grandson when small (he's now 8) had the phrase "Grandpa will
mend it"

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Bennet writes
On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?
Bill

Balsa cement.

In my youth, I was a keen (flying) aeromodeller. Invariably you'd have a
crash or two, but with luck you'd be able to make an impromptu
in-the-field repair. Unfortunately, balsa cement doesn't dry quickly
enough. If only we'd had superglue in those far, distant days!
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Depends what the plane is made of.
Balsa wood, Balsa cement, Polystyrene either a solvent based glue or
specific glue which might be water based and help the plane fall to bits
when you crash it. Of course if we are talking Airfix scale model kits,
then its solvent based polystyrene cement.
A bit more detail might be worth the electrons?
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Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill

On 04/01/2021 08:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
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Bennet writes
On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?
Â*Bill

Balsa cement.

In my youth, I was a keen (flying) aeromodeller. Invariably you'd have a
crash or two, but with luck you'd be able to make an impromptu
in-the-field repair. Unfortunately, balsa cement doesn't dry quickly
enough. If only we'd had superglue in those far, distant days!

It did dry quickly enough. As did doped tissue





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What sort of plane would you use that for?
Most flying models use combinations of wood and foam polystyrene and are
covered by tissue doped with a shrinking dope or a thin nylon material. I
have even seen some covered by what looks like coloured clingfilm. All sorts
of specialist adhesives exist for them. There used to be magazines about it
all, then came the drones which changed part of the hobby into basically a
roter blade changing one when you hit things.
On scale non flying models there are some contact glues now, but for
strength in places not visible good old polystyrene cement works.
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On 03/01/2021 20:47, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 20:36:12 +0000, williamwright
wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

'What's the best glue for everything'? ;-)

What *sort* of 'model plane' are you talking about here? If it's yer
'Airfix' type plastic model here as if so I use "Revell Contacta
Professional" because it works and comes in a very handy dispenser
that doesn't block if you keep using it regularly and leave the fine
nozzle clean if you don't.

Cheers, T i m

Hot melt and car body filler?

:-)

On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:

Does anyone know what might be suitable?

What substrates are you attempting to join?

Wood to wood?
Wood to metal?
Wood to plastic?
Wood to paper?
Metal to plastic?
Metal to paper?
Plastic to paper?
Plastic to plastic? etc etc?

Do you need a structural adhesive (that is, is it going to fly)?


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On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Yes . Vague questions deserve vague answers.

Relenting a bit :-

Balsa or ply flying models ~ Balsa cement or PVA.

Display models (Airfix type) ~ one of the polystyrene cements (revell
contact , Tamiya super thin etc)

Painted parts of display models ~ super glue (cyanoacrylate)

Epoxy can also be used if you are not too worried about weight.

Google lists something like 41/2 million hits in 0.54 seconds.
Not a fan of Google?

On 04/01/2021 05:06, Paul wrote:
I was a kid. The
plastic cement was a "solvent glue", that dissolved a bit
of the edge of the work, to join the pieces.

Not really a glue at all . That's why it was called cement.

It dissolved the pieces so that when they 'hardened' the pieces were as
one ie as strong as the pieces next to them

On 04/01/2021 12:52, soup wrote:
On 04/01/2021 05:06, Paul wrote:
Â*I was a kid. The
plastic cement was a "solvent glue", that dissolved a bit
of the edge of the work, to join the pieces.

Not really a glue at all .Â* That's why it was called cement.

It dissolved the pieces so that when they 'hardened' the pieces were as
one ie as strong as the pieces next to them


In that case just use the solvent weld adhesive intended for
plastic plumbing ?

On 04/01/2021 13:08, Andrew wrote:
On 04/01/2021 12:52, soup wrote:
On 04/01/2021 05:06, Paul wrote:
Â*Â*I was a kid. The
plastic cement was a "solvent glue", that dissolved a bit
of the edge of the work, to join the pieces.

Not really a glue at all .Â* That's why it was called cement.

It dissolved the pieces so that when they 'hardened' the pieces were
as one ie as strong as the pieces next to them


In that case just use the solvent weld adhesive intended for
plastic plumbing ?

Probably work at joining two pieces But not really precise enough
application .

Even the tube cements of the 70s 80s (even available now) are a bit
imprecise better with the More liquid small applicator type .
Say Tamiya thin or even Revell Contacta

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On 04/01/2021 12:52, soup wrote:
On 04/01/2021 05:06, Paul wrote:
I was a kid. The
plastic cement was a "solvent glue", that dissolved a bit
of the edge of the work, to join the pieces.

Not really a glue at all . That's why it was called cement.

It dissolved the pieces so that when they 'hardened' the pieces were as
one ie as strong as the pieces next to them


In that case just use the solvent weld adhesive intended for
plastic plumbing ?

Different plastic being glued.

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On Monday, 4 January 2021 at 08:40:05 UTC, Graeme wrote:
In message ,
polygonum_on_google writes

Damn you! What was the brand of adhesive we used to use in the 1960s
for Airfix (and other) models?
Met-Pak

Never heard of it!

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On Monday, 4 January 2021 at 08:40:05 UTC, Graeme wrote:
Met-Pak

Never heard of it!

https://slatersplastikard.com/plastikard/mekpak.php
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On 04/01/2021 16:46, Graeme wrote:
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On Monday, 4 January 2021 at 08:40:05 UTC, Graeme wrote:
Met-Pak

Never heard of it!

https://slatersplastikard.com/plastikard/mekpak.php
MEK. Methyl Ethyl Ketone. Dope thinners.

simply a plastic solvent. Not even a glue really.

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Graeme wrote:
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On Monday, 4 January 2021 at 08:40:05 UTC, Graeme wrote:
Met-Pak

Never heard of it!

https://slatersplastikard.com/plastikard/mekpak.php

If it is for youngsters the bottle may be a bit prone to being knocked over
unless mounted in a holder,
a simple hole fractionally bigger than the bottle drilled into a wooden
block can help with that
but something with a spout such as the Revell product mentioned upthread is
probably safer.

GH

On 03/01/2021 20:36, williamwright wrote:
Does anyone know what might be suitable?

Bill
From my experience an impact adhesive...