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On 01/01/2021 18:21, RJH wrote:
On 31 Dec 2020 at 13:12:35 GMT, "John Rumm" wrote: On 31/12/2020 10:49, Caecilius wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC), RJH wrote: Not known this before. Friend's cassette deck is chewing tapes, so I said I'd take a look. Plugged it in and flash/bang from the plug, blew the 13A fuse in the extension, and tripped the socket circuit on the main board. Anyone know the cause?: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0zGf693Zhiyh7 Looks like the fuse exploded. The damage to the head and threads of the loose screw make me wonder if that screw was involved in the L/E short. Is there an RCD on that circuit? The damage suggests a high fault current, but I'd have expected something in the 30mA RCD + MCB + 13A Fuse to have limited the fault current & duration. Well the fact that the plug is still in one piece and the house is not on fire, one might argue it all worked as it should. The RCD is possibly a diversion since they have no ability to limit fault current - only fault duration. In high current fault scenarios the fuse and MCB would operate before the RCD will get a look in generally, since RCDs need to see a fault for a good proportion of a mains cycle before tripping. As others have suggested the carbon deposits on the fuse would suggest that ultimately there was a flashover between the earth and neutral *pins* (i.e. not just the screw terminals[1]) of the plug - that basically puts the plug fuse out of the picture as well, once the arc is established. So now its all down to the circuit MCB. [1] even though the flash over between terminals started the ball rolling. Thanks - and to everyone else. As to the 'cause of the cause', does it seem likely that there was a stray strand at the live wire? Its quite possible - something caused a flashover between the L & E terminals - you can see that from the erosion of the metal in the location. The most likely cause I can think of is a strand of wire - but it could possibly have been moisture in the plug... or perhaps it have had a previous fault and that left a conductive film on the plastic in the area. So whoever wired the plug? I'd add it was a 13A fuse fitted - which might suggest some lack of attention to detail. Perhaps... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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