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Galvonic isolator position
where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a
virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed to cause problems with my internet connection idea why? |
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On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed to cause problems with my internet connection idea why? Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals. |
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newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote: where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed to cause problems with my internet connection idea why? Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals. Just keep them away from the flux capacitor... Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 06/11/2020 13:18, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote: where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed to cause problems with my internet connection idea why? Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals. And whether or not an unobtanium gasket is fitted.. -- Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend. "Saki" |
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Well, surely the whole idea is to try to remove your transmitted signal from
the modem or anything connected to it. So for a start are you sure of the mechanism its getting into? Generally, it seems if you live next door to a ham and are on BT then its far more difficult than on virgin unless its fibre to the home, I would leave the Virgin hub where it is, make it into a modem only then buy yourself a nice shine router and stick that on the end of a good quality network cable. The wireless will be better and from tests someone I know did, very little is getting back to the hub. It seems as you deduce that the main problem is that the hub is fed by coax, and it is the sheath of this which is picking up the signals. Its counter intuitive I know that bits of open wire in a plastic bundle seem better than a screened cable, but proof of pudding and eating, and you may have other issues, even the length of the coax can cause issues if its a quarter wave at the transmitting frequency, I'd imagine. Back in the old CB days one used to use braid breakers on tvs, but I do not know what effect that kind of device might have on a broadband signal, as by definition it is,um broad band! Brian -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "newshound" wrote in message o.uk... On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote: where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed to cause problems with my internet connection idea why? Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals. |
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On 7 Nov 2020 at 07:41:18 GMT, ""Brian Gaff \" Sofa\)"
wrote: Well, surely the whole idea is to try to remove your transmitted signal from the modem or anything connected to it. So for a start are you sure of the mechanism its getting into? Generally, it seems if you live next door to a ham and are on BT then its far more difficult than on virgin unless its fibre to the home, I would leave the Virgin hub where it is, make it into a modem only then buy yourself a nice shine router and stick that on the end of a good quality network cable. The wireless will be better and from tests someone I know did, very little is getting back to the hub. It seems as you deduce that the main problem is that the hub is fed by coax, and it is the sheath of this which is picking up the signals. Its counter intuitive I know that bits of open wire in a plastic bundle seem better than a screened cable, but proof of pudding and eating, and you may have other issues, even the length of the coax can cause issues if its a quarter wave at the transmitting frequency, I'd imagine. Back in the old CB days one used to use braid breakers on tvs, but I do not know what effect that kind of device might have on a broadband signal, as by definition it is,um broad band! Brian The merit of your ethernet solution is that it already has galvanic isolation. Unless you use shielded ethernet cable, which is often counterproductive unless the whole system is designed for it. -- Roger Hayter |
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Roger Hayter wrote:
On 7 Nov 2020 at 07:41:18 GMT, ""Brian Gaff \" Sofa\)" wrote: Well, surely the whole idea is to try to remove your transmitted signal from the modem or anything connected to it. So for a start are you sure of the mechanism its getting into? Generally, it seems if you live next door to a ham and are on BT then its far more difficult than on virgin unless its fibre to the home, I would leave the Virgin hub where it is, make it into a modem only then buy yourself a nice shine router and stick that on the end of a good quality network cable. The wireless will be better and from tests someone I know did, very little is getting back to the hub. It seems as you deduce that the main problem is that the hub is fed by coax, and it is the sheath of this which is picking up the signals. Its counter intuitive I know that bits of open wire in a plastic bundle seem better than a screened cable, but proof of pudding and eating, and you may have other issues, even the length of the coax can cause issues if its a quarter wave at the transmitting frequency, I'd imagine. Back in the old CB days one used to use braid breakers on tvs, but I do not know what effect that kind of device might have on a broadband signal, as by definition it is,um broad band! Brian The merit of your ethernet solution is that it already has galvanic isolation. Unless you use shielded ethernet cable, which is often counterproductive unless the whole system is designed for it. Another one showing how little he knows. |
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On 07/11/2020 09:53, Radio Man wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote: On 7 Nov 2020 at 07:41:18 GMT, ""Brian Gaff \" Sofa\)" wrote: Well, surely the whole idea is to try to remove your transmitted signal from the modem or anything connected to it. So for a start are you sure of the mechanism its getting into? Generally, it seems if you live next door to a ham and are on BT then its far more difficult than on virgin unless its fibre to the home, I would leave the Virgin hub where it is, make it into a modem only then buy yourself a nice shine router and stick that on the end of a good quality network cable. The wireless will be better and from tests someone I know did, very little is getting back to the hub. It seems as you deduce that the main problem is that the hub is fed by coax, and it is the sheath of this which is picking up the signals. Its counter intuitive I know that bits of open wire in a plastic bundle seem better than a screened cable, but proof of pudding and eating, and you may have other issues, even the length of the coax can cause issues if its a quarter wave at the transmitting frequency, I'd imagine. Back in the old CB days one used to use braid breakers on tvs, but I do not know what effect that kind of device might have on a broadband signal, as by definition it is,um broad band! Brian The merit of your ethernet solution is that it already has galvanic isolation. Unless you use shielded ethernet cable, which is often counterproductive unless the whole system is designed for it. Another one showing how little he knows. well help us out brian reay |
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what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....
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On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi and all is well .....thanks for nothing |
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On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi and all is well .....thanks for nothing Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage." |
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On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi and all is well .....thanks for nothing Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz |
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In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi and all is well .....thanks for nothing Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz You were just using the Paisley vernacular - weren't you, Jim. -- Ian |
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On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... You can always count on Jim to "bite"! |
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On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... You can always count on Jim to "bite"! and why not ... |
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On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote: On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... You can always count on Jim to "bite"! and why not ... you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers.... |
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On 06/11/2020 15:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote: On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote: On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... You can always count on Jim to "bite"! and why not ... you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers.... https://groups.google.com/g/uk.tech..../c/KEoNqvmm6H0 its alright you lot can **** off now you have had a laugh...... |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote: On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote: On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... You can always count on Jim to "bite"! and why not ... you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers.... Why does someone who passed the RAE need to ask. |
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6th Nov (Was : Galvonic isolator position)
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ... Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night? --- Please Miss! Please Miss! (Cautiously) Yes Johnnie? --- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes! Rectum, Johnnie! Rectum, Johnnie! --- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits! |
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6th Nov (Was : Galvonic isolator position)
On 06/11/2020 15:55, gareth evans wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ... Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night? --- Please Miss! Please Miss! (Cautiously) Yes Johnnie? --- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes! Rectum, Johnnie! Rectum, Johnnie! --- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits! Oops! Missed that it was also X-posted to URA :-( |
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On 06/11/2020 15:55, gareth evans wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ... Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night? --- Please Miss!Â* Please Miss! (Cautiously) Yes Johnnie? --- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes! Rectum, Johnnie!Â* Rectum, Johnnie! --- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits! tee hee |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:59:01 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote: On 06/11/2020 15:55, gareth evans wrote: On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: what a bunch of arseholes you three are..... The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ... Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night? --- Please Miss!* Please Miss! (Cautiously) Yes Johnnie? --- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes! Rectum, Johnnie!* Rectum, Johnnie! --- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits! tee hee The oldies are the best. https://youtu.be/BpWjUzEFEf8?t=1415 |
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