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jim.gm4dhj[_2_] November 6th 20 11:52 AM

Galvonic isolator position
 
where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a
virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of
the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed
to cause problems with my internet connection idea why?

newshound November 6th 20 01:18 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a
virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of
the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed
to cause problems with my internet connection idea why?


Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals.

Tim+[_5_] November 6th 20 01:49 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a
virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor of
the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this seemed
to cause problems with my internet connection idea why?


Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals.


Just keep them away from the flux capacitor...

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] November 6th 20 01:58 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 13:18, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 11:52, jim.gm4dhj wrote:
where should the galvonic isolator be positioned in relation to a
virginmedia modem/router?.....I relocated the box to the upper floor
of the house using a good coax leaving the isolator down stairs this
seemed to cause problems with my internet connection idea why?


Depends on where you have the dilithium crystals.


And whether or not an unobtanium gasket is fitted..

--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 02:35 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:00 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....




never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi
and all is well .....thanks for nothing

newshound November 6th 20 03:06 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


You can always count on Jim to "bite"!

Jim GM4 DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:07 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


You can always count on Jim to "bite"!

and why not ...

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:08 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


You can always count on Jim to "bite"!

and why not ...

you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] November 6th 20 03:15 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....




never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi
and all is well .....thanks for nothing


Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator

--
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."


Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:33 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....




never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the router/wifi
and all is well .....thanks for nothing


Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator

OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:38 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!

and why not ...

you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


https://groups.google.com/g/uk.tech..../c/KEoNqvmm6H0

its alright you lot can **** off now you have had a laugh......

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:39 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!
and why not ...

you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


https://groups.google.com/g/uk.tech..../c/KEoNqvmm6H0

its alright you lot can **** off now you have had a laugh......

Brian Gaff to the rescue...tee hee

Ian Jackson[_9_] November 6th 20 03:44 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....



never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the
router/wifi and all is well .....thanks for nothing

Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic
isolator

OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz


You were just using the Paisley vernacular - weren't you, Jim.
--
Ian

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] November 6th 20 03:46 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....



never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the
router/wifiÂ* and all is well .....thanks for nothing
Â*Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator

OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz


You were just using the Paisley vernacular - weren't you, Jim.


A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?

--
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.


Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:47 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....



never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the
router/wifiÂ* and all is well .....thanks for nothing
Â*Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator

OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz


You were just using the Paisley vernacular - weren't you, Jim.

no I misread the friggin' name...dead funny....

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:48 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 15:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 15:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:00, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....



never mind I have now located it upstairs just before the
router/wifiÂ* and all is well .....thanks for nothing
Â*Wow. send us a picture. No one here has ever seen a galvonic isolator

OK friggin "Galvanic" then....happy?...jeeezuz


You were just using the Paisley vernacular - weren't you, Jim.


A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?

why bother replying when if you don't know....**** orft ....

Gareth Evans November 6th 20 03:55 PM

6th Nov (Was : Galvonic isolator position)
 
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ...

Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night?

--- Please Miss! Please Miss!

(Cautiously) Yes Johnnie?

--- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes!

Rectum, Johnnie! Rectum, Johnnie!

--- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits!



Gareth Evans November 6th 20 03:58 PM

6th Nov (Was : Galvonic isolator position)
 
On 06/11/2020 15:55, gareth evans wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ...

Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night?

--- Please Miss! Please Miss!

(Cautiously) Yes Johnnie?

--- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes!

Rectum, Johnnie! Rectum, Johnnie!

--- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits!




Oops! Missed that it was also X-posted to URA :-(


Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 03:59 PM

6th Nov (Was : Galvonic isolator position)
 
On 06/11/2020 15:55, gareth evans wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ...

Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night?

--- Please Miss!Â* Please Miss!

(Cautiously) Yes Johnnie?

--- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes!

Rectum, Johnnie!Â* Rectum, Johnnie!

--- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits!


tee hee

Radio Man November 6th 20 04:34 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!

and why not ...

you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


Why does someone who passed the RAE need to ask.


Jim GM4 DHJ ... November 6th 20 04:49 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 16:34, Radio Man wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!
and why not ...

you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


Why does someone who passed the RAE need to ask.

yes...never heard of it before...

Jim GM4 DHJ ... November 6th 20 04:58 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 16:34, Radio Man wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!
and why not ...

you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


Why does someone who passed the RAE need to ask.

so tell me smart arse why the position of it fecked up my internet ?

[email protected] November 6th 20 05:12 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On Friday, 6 November 2020 16:58:29 UTC, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 16:34, Radio Man wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!
and why not ...
you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


Why does someone who passed the RAE need to ask.

so tell me smart arse why the position of it fecked up my internet ?


Maybe you don't even need a galvanic isolator. The ethernet sockets
are transformer coupled, so they don't need extra isolation and the
mains will almost certainly be double insulated with no earth connection
so what is there to isolate?

John

Jim GM4DHJ ... November 6th 20 05:31 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 17:12, wrote:
On Friday, 6 November 2020 16:58:29 UTC, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 16:34, Radio Man wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:07, Jim GM4 DHJ ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....

You can always count on Jim to "bite"!
and why not ...
you ask a simple question and all you get is a bunch of jokers....


Why does someone who passed the RAE need to ask.

so tell me smart arse why the position of it fecked up my internet ?


Maybe you don't even need a galvanic isolator. The ethernet sockets
are transformer coupled, so they don't need extra isolation and the
mains will almost certainly be double insulated with no earth connection
so what is there to isolate?

John

no idea...I may toss it but seems to be OK now I repositioned it .....

Jim GM4 DHJ ... November 6th 20 06:34 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 18:10, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.

Jim clearly upset it initially and then fixed it again.

I think that is exactly what happened.....thank supreme being for
somebody who knows what they are talking about,,,

charles November 6th 20 06:47 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In article rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.


Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.


Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

Jim GM4 DHJ ... November 6th 20 06:59 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.


Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.


Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem

Ian Jackson[_9_] November 6th 20 08:01 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In message , Jim GM4 DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is

doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.


Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.

Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem


Jim, I'm not quite sure what you're doing, but for the record the coax
feed from the street cabinet, where it enters your house, will have a
box where both the inner and outer of the coax have in-line blocking
capacitors. These are large enough to pass 5MHz and above without
attenuation, but progressively kill the lower frequencies down to DC.
This is a requirement to protect you from any voltage present on the
feed to you, and the system from any voltage you feed back into the
system.
--
Ian

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] November 6th 20 08:38 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 18:10, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Gosh. Ground loops. 50hz hum on a megahertz signal...Do you folks over
on uk.radio.amateur actually have *any* electronic experience *at all*.?

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.

Jim clearly upset it initially and then fixed it again.

The right position is in the bin, along with his tinfoil hat and quartz
crystal pyramid knife sharpener



--
€œIdeas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] November 6th 20 08:39 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.


Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.


Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

So ****ing what? I am sure that my ISP is on 3 phases.

--
€œA leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
€œWe did this ourselves.€

ۥ Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

Custos Custodum November 6th 20 08:48 PM

6th Nov (Was : Galvonic isolator position)
 
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:59:01 +0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

On 06/11/2020 15:55, gareth evans wrote:
On 06/11/2020 14:35, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
what a bunch of arseholes you three are.....


The morning of 6th November, at the Junior School ...

Well, children! What did you do on Bonfire Night?

--- Please Miss!* Please Miss!

(Cautiously) Yes Johnnie?

--- Please Miss, we shoved penny bangers up frogs' arseholes!

Rectum, Johnnie!* Rectum, Johnnie!

--- Wrecked 'em, Miss? It f***ing blew them to bits!


tee hee


The oldies are the best.
https://youtu.be/BpWjUzEFEf8?t=1415

charles November 6th 20 08:51 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 06/11/2020 18:10, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops
via the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might
be what everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Gosh. Ground loops. 50hz hum on a megahertz signal...Do you folks over
on uk.radio.amateur actually have *any* electronic experience *at all*.?


Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.

Jim clearly upset it initially and then fixed it again.

The right position is in the bin, along with his tinfoil hat and quartz
crystal pyramid knife sharpener


Interestingly, I had, in the analogue days, hum on my tv signal when it
rained. Took a bit of tracing: VCR had a potential on it's earth which
travelled up the downlead into my aerial combiner. When it rained it found
a path to earth down the wall. There was a drop of about 3v between the
output and input earths and this transferred itself to the wanted signal
and ended up on the picture. Solved by grounding the input coax to the VCR.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

charles November 6th 20 08:56 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim GM4 DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article
rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is

doing in a Broadband setup?

It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops
via the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might
be what everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.
Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem


Jim, I'm not quite sure what you're doing, but for the record the coax
feed from the street cabinet, where it enters your house, will have a
box where both the inner and outer of the coax have in-line blocking
capacitors. These are large enough to pass 5MHz and above without
attenuation, but progressively kill the lower frequencies down to DC.
This is a requirement to protect you from any voltage present on the
feed to you, and the system from any voltage you feed back into the
system.



But this might have failed in Jim's case. For my info - how does the phone
signal get past the blocking capacitor?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

Jim GM4 DHJ ... November 6th 20 09:07 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 20:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/11/2020 18:10, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is one
doing in a Broadband setup?


It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops via
the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might be what
everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Gosh. Ground loops. 50hz hum on a megahertz signal...Do you folks over
on uk.radio.amateur actually have *any* electronic experience *at all*.?

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.

Jim clearly upset it initially and then fixed it again.

The right position is in the bin, along with his tinfoil hat and quartz
crystal pyramid knife sharpener



oh right...do you comply with anything people tell you to do?.....

Ian Jackson[_9_] November 6th 20 09:12 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In message , charles
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim GM4 DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article
rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is

doing in a Broadband setup?

It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground loops
via the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It might
be what everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.
Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem


Jim, I'm not quite sure what you're doing, but for the record the coax
feed from the street cabinet, where it enters your house, will have a
box where both the inner and outer of the coax have in-line blocking
capacitors. These are large enough to pass 5MHz and above without
attenuation, but progressively kill the lower frequencies down to DC.
This is a requirement to protect you from any voltage present on the
feed to you, and the system from any voltage you feed back into the
system.



But this might have failed in Jim's case. For my info - how does the phone
signal get past the blocking capacitor?

Virgin provides internet and TV at RF (5MHz to 1000+MHz, via coax) - and
I was assuming that that was what Jim was talking about. Phone will be
on twisted-pair phonelines.
--
Ian

Tim+[_5_] November 6th 20 09:41 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , charles
writes



But this might have failed in Jim's case. For my info - how does the phone
signal get past the blocking capacitor?

Virgin provides internet and TV at RF (5MHz to 1000+MHz, via coax) - and
I was assuming that that was what Jim was talking about. Phone will be
on twisted-pair phonelines.


Um, not in my house. Phone plugs into router (which only has a coax link to
the outside world).

Tim

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charles November 6th 20 09:41 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , charles
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim GM4 DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article
rir.org.uk,
Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is

doing in a Broadband setup?

It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground
loops via the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal.
It might be what everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR,
that depends on exact details of the property and wiring.
Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem


Jim, I'm not quite sure what you're doing, but for the record the coax
feed from the street cabinet, where it enters your house, will have a
box where both the inner and outer of the coax have in-line blocking
capacitors. These are large enough to pass 5MHz and above without
attenuation, but progressively kill the lower frequencies down to DC.
This is a requirement to protect you from any voltage present on the
feed to you, and the system from any voltage you feed back into the
system.



But this might have failed in Jim's case. For my info - how does the
phone signal get past the blocking capacitor?

Virgin provides internet and TV at RF (5MHz to 1000+MHz, via coax) - and
I was assuming that that was what Jim was talking about. Phone will be
on twisted-pair phonelines.


my daughter's house has just the one cable from Virgin - but maybe it's
multicore.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

The Planet Man ... November 6th 20 09:50 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 21:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , charles
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim GM4 DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article
Â*Â*Â*Â* rir.org.uk,
Â*Â*Â*Â* Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is

doing in a Broadband setup?

It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground
loops
via the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It
might
be what everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR, that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.
Â* Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem


Jim, I'm not quite sure what you're doing, but for the record the coax
feed from the street cabinet, where it enters your house, will have a
box where both the inner and outer of the coax have in-line blocking
capacitors. These are large enough to pass 5MHz and above without
attenuation, but progressively kill the lower frequencies down to DC.
This is a requirement to protect you from any voltage present on the
feed to you, and the system from any voltage you feed back into the
system.



But this might have failed in Jim's case. For my info - how does the
phone
signal get past the blocking capacitor?

Virgin provides internet and TV at RF (5MHz to 1000+MHz, via coax) - and
I was assuming that that was what Jim was talking about. Phone will be
on twisted-pair phonelines.

phone goes to a socket in the hall I dont use the phone sockets on the
modem/router....there is just a splitter for the tv and the modem/router
on the living room wall....my problem was the position of the isolator
in relation to the router/wifi unit.....it totally buggered up the
internet...dropped connection and wifi etc...all fine now

--
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peace and fair play. Like all agents of the League, he is forbidden to
resort to violence, except in self defense. However, he is a skilled
fighter, and he carries a sidearm at all times. He is a humanoid from
Planeris Rex, and he was the first representative of the League to make
contact with the humans of earth. He still has much to learn about human
customs and sayings. He went on to save the solar system from the evil
of Marston of Mars, and later had adventures beyond the solar system.

jim.gm4dhj[_2_] November 6th 20 09:50 PM

Galvonic isolator position
 
On 06/11/2020 21:50, The Planet Man ... wrote:
On 06/11/2020 21:12, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , charles
writes
In article , Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , Jim GM4 DHJ ...
writes
On 06/11/2020 18:47, charles wrote:
In article
Â*Â*Â*Â* rir.org.uk,
Â*Â*Â*Â* Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:46:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A galvanic isolator is a way to prevent corrosion in boats. WTF is

doing in a Broadband setup?

It is used to disconnect the internal equipment from the external
broadband cabinet and equipment. It also acts to prevent ground
loops
via the coax cable that supplies the cable broadband signal. It
might
be what everyone else calls a braid breaker.

Putting it in the 'wrong' position might cause a change in SNR,
that
depends on exact details of the property and wiring.
Â* Yes, the cable cabinet and the house might be on different phases.

thanks this seems to be the problem

Jim, I'm not quite sure what you're doing, but for the record the coax
feed from the street cabinet, where it enters your house, will have a
box where both the inner and outer of the coax have in-line blocking
capacitors. These are large enough to pass 5MHz and above without
attenuation, but progressively kill the lower frequencies down to DC.
This is a requirement to protect you from any voltage present on the
feed to you, and the system from any voltage you feed back into the
system.


But this might have failed in Jim's case. For my info - how does the
phone
signal get past the blocking capacitor?

Virgin provides internet and TV at RF (5MHz to 1000+MHz, via coax) -
and I was assuming that that was what Jim was talking about. Phone
will be on twisted-pair phonelines.

phone goes to a socket in the hall I dont use the phone sockets on the
modem/router....there is just a splitter for the tv and the modem/router
on the living room wall....my problem was the position of the isolator
in relation to the router/wifi unit.....it totally buggered up the
internet...dropped connection and wifi etc...all fine now

sorry that was me....



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