I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

In article ,
Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

I painted ny backdoor last in 1980. It probably needs doing again.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:41:08 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article ,
Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

I painted ny backdoor last in 1980. It probably needs doing again.

I'll ask the Factors for the name of the painter they used and let you
know then :-)

In article ,
Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

It is going to depend on how exposed it is. My front door is set back from
the front of the house and north facing. Still looks just fine when the
rest of the exterior needs decorating, assuming no mechanical damage to
cause chips, etc. White seems to have a shorter life than colours too.

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On 28/09/2020 12:24, Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

Depends on the wood, quality of paint, quality of painter, but probably
most important the type of exposure it gets to the weather.

A year definitely sounds dodgy. Maybe 10 Downing Street front door gets
painted every year, but it's expected to look super smart.

On 28/09/2020 14:51, newshound wrote:

A year definitely sounds dodgy. Maybe 10 Downing Street front door gets
painted every year, but it's expected to look super smart.

I have a strong feeling they have more than one of them. They take one
away to be painted and hang the other one. I imagine it takes some
doing, as they must be reinforced.

On 28/09/2020 16:18, GB wrote:
On 28/09/2020 14:51, newshound wrote:

A year definitely sounds dodgy. Maybe 10 Downing Street front door
gets painted every year, but it's expected to look super smart.

I have a strong feeling they have more than one of them. They take one
away to be painted and hang the other one. I imagine it takes some
doing, as they must be reinforced.

ISTR its also made out of steel...

(and can't be opened from the outside)


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On 28/09/2020 20:43, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/09/2020 16:18, GB wrote:
On 28/09/2020 14:51, newshound wrote:

A year definitely sounds dodgy. Maybe 10 Downing Street front door
gets painted every year, but it's expected to look super smart.

I have a strong feeling they have more than one of them. They take one
away to be painted and hang the other one. I imagine it takes some
doing, as they must be reinforced.

ISTR its also made out of steel...

(and can't be opened from the outside)



Yes, WP confirms:

"After the IRA mortar attack in 1991, the original black oak door was
replaced by a blast-proof steel one. Regularly removed for refurbishment
and replaced with a replica, it is so heavy that it takes eight men to
lift it.

The door cannot be opened from the outside; there is always someone
inside to unlock the door."

I'm astonished that they move the door by hand. Surely, some sort of
cradle/trolley makes sense?

On 28/09/2020 21:06, GB wrote:

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I'm astonished that they move the door by hand.Â* Surely, some sort of
cradle/trolley makes sense?

I'm happy to be pointed to a tool that can be hired or bought that could
lift the door off its hinges, carry it out and load it on a van; and
then do the reverse for the replacement. But I'd be very surprised if
there's an option which is cheaper than manual labour for an occasional
job like that.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 21:06:55 +0100, GB
wrote:

On 28/09/2020 20:43, John Rumm wrote:
On 28/09/2020 16:18, GB wrote:
On 28/09/2020 14:51, newshound wrote:

A year definitely sounds dodgy. Maybe 10 Downing Street front door
gets painted every year, but it's expected to look super smart.

I have a strong feeling they have more than one of them. They take one
away to be painted and hang the other one. I imagine it takes some
doing, as they must be reinforced.

ISTR its also made out of steel...

(and can't be opened from the outside)

Yes, WP confirms:

"After the IRA mortar attack in 1991, the original black oak door was
replaced by a blast-proof steel one. Regularly removed for refurbishment
and replaced with a replica, it is so heavy that it takes eight men to
lift it.

Sexist *******s :-)

newshound expressed precisely :
A year definitely sounds dodgy. Maybe 10 Downing Street front door gets
painted every year, but it's expected to look super smart.

They have more than one door and just swap them, when the current one
needs painting.

On Monday, 28 September 2020 12:24:53 UTC+1, Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

It varies hugely. Can even be as bad as 1 yr in some cases. Paint reformulation has caused some problems in this respect. It's really impossible to know who or what is to blame without investigation.


NT

Thanks to everyone. I'm not going to enter into an argument over
durability, which it sounds as though I might lose. Tactical retreat.

On 28/09/2020 12:24, Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

A lot depends on how well the surface was prepared first. Most premature
paint failures are down to poor workmanship at the preparation stage.

A decent quality oil based paint applied properly should be good for 3
years in tricky conditions and five years or longer in sheltered ones.

Of the most extreme hardwearing paints and varnishes I have known a
certain brand of yatch varnish survived for nearly 10 years in the
harshest of conditions. It then all started to drop off at once as water
got in behind it. Bits still stuck to the job will need removing

Facing into the weather and southwards in the hot summer sun is what
makes exterior paints fail the most rapidly as the wood expands and
contracts and the paint film becomes more brittle with age.

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Martin Brown

On 28/09/2020 12:24, Scott wrote:
I am in an argument about a door that was painted by the Factors
(managing agents) about a year ago. They are suggesting it may need
to be done again. In general terms, could anyone comment how long
exterior oil-based gloss should last? I promise not to cite you as a
witness for the Pursuer :-)

Surely it depends on whether the door is wood, plastic, or metal, and even more on its exposure to the elements. I find that wooden windows exposed to the full southern sun and rain need painting every couple of years. Other areas less often.


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