I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?

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On 13/09/2020 14:42, RJH wrote:
I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?

Doesn't sound too bad to me. I'd certainly be keen on local
recommendations, something that local Facebook groups are often good for
(recognising that some of the responses may come from friends and family).

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RJH wrote:
I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in
Sheffield - around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so
a certain slate needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Wandsworth allowed artificial slate, and mine was done with that over 40
years ago. As was much of the area. When grants were being dished out. It
has lasted very well.

Not sure how decent real slate compares cost wise today, though. Then, it
was a lot more expensive.

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On 13/09/2020 14:42, RJH wrote:
I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?


Dunno but I know Sheff council can be arsey about the exact type of
slate used.

Bill

On 13/09/2020 14:42, RJH wrote:
I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?


When I had my terraced house re-roofed it was 2 men for 4 full days.
Small deposit and payment only at the end of the job. This included
removal of all old roof and any materials left over (I did keep a couple
of dozen spare tiles). The quote included them organising scaffolding
for both sides of the house etc..

My quote didn't include brand names etc. I was initially asked if I
wanted cheap as chip tile or more expensive tiles. The quote gave a
complete list of generic tasks. The grade of lead flashing was listed.

Pricing depends more on roofing material (type of slate etc.) so
possibly not comparable with what I paid a few years back.

Do they offer a insurance backed deposit protection and guarantee which
may/will be better than having one from a small (or large )company that
may go out of business?


If into DIY consider doing any high work while the scaffolding is up.
Paint your gutters etc. but probably not while they are still working on
the roof. If you do this you may have a word with the scaffolders to
include more working platforms. For roofing they may just use planks at
gutter level. My experience with scaffolders is that they will not be in
too much of a hurry to remove it until you phone up.


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On 13/09/2020 15:26, alan_m wrote:
On 13/09/2020 14:42, RJH wrote:
I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in
Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a
certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it
difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials
to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of
guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a
local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who
seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?


When I had my terraced house re-roofed it was 2 men for 4 full days.
Small deposit and payment only at the end of the job.Â* This included
removal of all old roof and any materials left over (I did keep a couple
of dozen spare tiles).Â* The quote included them organising scaffolding
for both sides of the house etc..

My quote didn't include brand names etc. I was initially asked if I
wanted cheap as chip tile or more expensive tiles.Â* The quote gave a
complete list of generic tasks. The grade of lead flashing was listed.

Pricing depends more on roofing material (type of slate etc.) so
possibly not comparable with what I paid a few years back.

Do they offer a insurance backed deposit protection and guarantee which
may/will be better than having one from a small (or large )company that
may go out of business?


If into DIY consider doing any high work while the scaffolding is up.
Paint your gutters etc. but probably not while they are still working on
the roof. If you do this you may have a word with the scaffolders to
include more working platforms. For roofing they may just use planks at
gutter level. My experience with scaffolders is that they will not be in
too much of a hurry to remove it until you phone up.


Get scaffolding included in the quote - then no issue of extended rental
charges if weather problems etc.
Are there any areas where you want solid insulation lutting in which are
only accessible from outside ?
Organise someone or DIY to do comprehensive overhaul of gutters and any
woodwork while scaffolding up.
Any leadwork or chimney stacks need checking or repointing etc.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 13:42:20 +0000 (UTC), RJH
wrote:

I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?

2 things:

1. I'd avoid anyone advertsing in the Yellow Pages or elsewhere. If
they need to advertise they can't be that good IME. Personal
recommendation from previous satisfied customers is key.

2. Get someone close by to where you live so that when something goes
wrong (like some recently taken-on young 'un falling through the
ceiling as happened in my case) you can easily bug them about it until
they fix it. Even the best of them make ****-ups, so being able to
easily chase them up can become very important.

On 13/09/2020 15:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Wandsworth allowed artificial slate, and mine was done with that over 40
years ago. As was much of the area. When grants were being dished out. It
has lasted very well.

A commercial property close to where I live was re-roofed with
artificial slate. It looked good when finished but it now looks if
"nail rot" is setting in and there have been quite a few slipped slates
in the past decade.

Maybe one of the things the OP should do is ask about the nails.

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On 14 Sep 2020 at 18:55:52 BST, "alan_m" wrote:

On 13/09/2020 15:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Wandsworth allowed artificial slate, and mine was done with that over 40
years ago. As was much of the area. When grants were being dished out. It
has lasted very well.

A commercial property close to where I live was re-roofed with
artificial slate. It looked good when finished but it now looks if
"nail rot" is setting in and there have been quite a few slipped slates
in the past decade.

Maybe one of the things the OP should do is ask about the nails.

Thanks - yes, will do. The quotes do say slate, so I'd assume that's what they
do - not that I'd object to artificial, as it looks quite good IMO. I'll ask
anyway.
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Cheers, Rob

On 13 Sep 2020 at 17:46:23 BST, "Cursitor Doom" wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 13:42:20 +0000 (UTC), RJH
wrote:

I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in
Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain
slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems
to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?

2 things:

1. I'd avoid anyone advertsing in the Yellow Pages or elsewhere. If
they need to advertise they can't be that good IME. Personal
recommendation from previous satisfied customers is key.

2. Get someone close by to where you live so that when something goes
wrong (like some recently taken-on young 'un falling through the
ceiling as happened in my case) you can easily bug them about it until
they fix it. Even the best of them make ****-ups, so being able to
easily chase them up can become very important.

Thanks, good points.

--
Cheers, Rob

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 13/09/2020 15:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Wandsworth allowed artificial slate, and mine was done with that over 40
years ago. As was much of the area. When grants were being dished out. It
has lasted very well.

A commercial property close to where I live was re-roofed with
artificial slate. It looked good when finished but it now looks if
"nail rot" is setting in and there have been quite a few slipped slates
in the past decade.

Maybe one of the things the OP should do is ask about the nails.

They used copper nails here. Done with a council grant, they were quite
strict with inspections. Wouldn't happen these days with reduced council
staff in those areas.

Lots of houses round here were done at the same time. Most still look
good, but on some the artificial slates have discoloured to a sort of
yellowish hue. So there was obviously more than one maker. Mine still look
fine.

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On 13/09/2020 14:42, RJH wrote:
I've had a couple of quotes to reroof my Victorian terraced house in Sheffield
- around £10k, including 3 Veluxes, in a conservation area (so a certain slate
needed, and maybe a couple of other things).

Apart from not knowing whether this is a good price, I'm finding it difficult
to figure out what to look for. It just looks like a list of materials to me,
with no specifications on workmanship, brands etc. No mention of guarantees,
or staging payments. At the moment I'm being encouraged to go with a local
roofer by my neighbour (we're having them done at the same time), who seems to
think they have a good reputation from work done nearby.

What should I be asking for?

2 properties, 1 a detatched 1960's 4 bed Gloucestershire- local builder
known to the family for 30 years or more, regular "boring" tiles
Quote - £10K

2nd property, grade 2 listed terraced cottage, conservation area etc etc
(Brixham) Slates 2 quotes, first roofers (trusted local) £12k, 2nd
roofer (Exeter found on TrustedTrader) £9k

so £10K give or take appears to be a pretty standard price it would seem.