I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on a hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally be the case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage the door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor level of the garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about one third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is an area full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp down to the lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support posts and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from the washing machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on the lower floor under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked and festering carpet.

On 15/08/2020 10:29, Murmansk wrote:
Does decent quality carpet make a good foundation for brickwork?!

I'm no expert but i.m going with "no".

On Saturday, 15 August 2020 10:29:55 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:
I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on a hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally be the case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage the door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor level of the garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about one third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is an area full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp down to the lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support posts and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from the washing machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on the lower floor under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked and festering carpet.

It was at this point that I discovered the mezzanine's brick piers and wooden posts HAD BEEN BUILT ON TOP OF THE CARPET!!!!!! So to remove the carpet I had to cut around all the posts and the brick piers, which was not at all easy with soaked carpet!

You see many buildings which are built on piles.

(Probably not quite the same sort, I admit.)

On 15/08/2020 10:29, Murmansk wrote:


Short answer - NO !






























Long answer - ^%$& NO !

On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:29:55 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:
I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on a hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally be the case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage the door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor level of the garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about one third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is an area full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp down to the lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support posts and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from the washing machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on the lower floor under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked and festering carpet.

It was at this point that I discovered the mezzanine's brick piers and wooden posts HAD BEEN BUILT ON TOP OF THE CARPET!!!!!! So to remove the carpet I had to cut around all the posts and the brick piers, which was not at all easy with soaked carpet!

For wood it's fine, the carpet can be ignored, fixings go straight through it. But brickwork? Er, no.


NT

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On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:29:55 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:
I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on
a hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally
be the case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage
the door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor
level of the garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about
one third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is
an area full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp
down to the lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support
posts and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from
the washing machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on
the lower floor under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked
and festering carpet.

It was at this point that I discovered the mezzanine's brick piers and
wooden posts HAD BEEN BUILT ON TOP OF THE CARPET!!!!!! So to remove the
carpet I had to cut around all the posts and the brick piers, which was
not at all easy with soaked carpet!

For wood it's fine, the carpet can be ignored, fixings go straight
through it. But brickwork? Er, no.

X Perhasp it was intended as a "damp course"? ;-)

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In article , Nick
Cat wrote:
On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:29:55 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:
I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on
a hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally
be the case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage
the door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor
level of the garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about
one third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is
an area full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp
down to the lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support
posts and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from
the washing machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on
the lower floor under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked
and festering carpet.

It was at this point that I discovered the mezzanine's brick piers and
wooden posts HAD BEEN BUILT ON TOP OF THE CARPET!!!!!! So to remove the
carpet I had to cut around all the posts and the brick piers, which was
not at all easy with soaked carpet!

For wood it's fine, the carpet can be ignored, fixings go straight
through it. But brickwork? Er, no.

X Perhasp it was intended as a "damp course"? ;-)


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Blimey, was the company called Bodgit and Run by any chance?. I would say
that this could result in a few years in at the very least cracks,and at
worst, partial collapse.
Brian

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I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on a
hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally be the
case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage the
door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor level of the
garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about one
third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is an area
full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp down to the
lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support posts
and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from the washing
machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on the lower floor
under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked and festering carpet.

It was at this point that I discovered the mezzanine's brick piers and
wooden posts HAD BEEN BUILT ON TOP OF THE CARPET!!!!!! So to remove the
carpet I had to cut around all the posts and the brick piers, which was not
at all easy with soaked carpet!

I guess its a job needing jacks and some kind of cement to make up the
difference. Without knowing how many piers and wooden supports, what the
weight of the floor is etc, its hard to be of much use. Either way, it would
need depopulating of stuff, and maybe disassembly of the new floor and re
fixing of the bricks and wood, then a floor relay and some way to fix the
differences in height, though small you may be left with otherwise. Lets
hope the ramp is not built on lino.....

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On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:29:55 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:
I went recently to see a woman who has a modern garage that's built on a
hill so the inside of the garage is a lot taller than would normally be
the case.

You go in through the up and over door and at the back of the garage the
door to go to the house it probably 1.5 metres above the floor level of
the garage.

She got someone to build her a mezzanine type floor that covers about one
third of the garage so when entering it from the back door there is an
area full of worktop with room for appliances under it and a ramp down to
the lower area.

Anyway, this mezzanine area is built on brick piers and wooden support
posts and seems quite well done BUT she had a bit of a water leak from the
washing machine's supply pipe and it soaked the carpet that's on the lower
floor under the mezzanine and asked me to remove the soaked and festering
carpet.

It was at this point that I discovered the mezzanine's brick piers and
wooden posts HAD BEEN BUILT ON TOP OF THE CARPET!!!!!! So to remove the
carpet I had to cut around all the posts and the brick piers, which was
not at all easy with soaked carpet!

For wood it's fine, the carpet can be ignored, fixings go straight through
it. But brickwork? Er, no.


NT

"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" Wrote in message:
Blimey, was the company called Bodgit and Run by any chance?. I would say
that this could result in a few years in at the very least cracks,and at
worst, partial collapse.
Brian


Huh? It's all gravity anyway... why should it all fall down? Think
of it as a dubious dpc...
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OP here

I think in practice it'll probably be OK but the idea of building brick piers on carpet is just so crazy when they could easily have cut away a bit of carpet as all the piers were at the edge of the carpet.

I can perhaps understand the wooden supports being harder to deal with as they are in the central area, to stop the floor flexing under load, so it would have been a bit harder to cut the holes - but still perfectly do-able with a Stanley knife, a brain and five minutes' effort!

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I think in practice it'll probably be OK but the idea of building brick piers on carpet is just so crazy when they could easily have cut away a bit of carpet as all the piers were at the edge of the carpet.

I can perhaps understand the wooden supports being harder to deal with as they are in the central area, to stop the floor flexing under load, so it would have been a bit harder to cut the holes - but still perfectly do-able with a Stanley knife, a brain and five minutes' effort!



I had missed the wooden support posts... approx how much span is
there between the brick piers & presumably the outer wall of the
garage they attach to?

Wondering how big an area we are talking & why the joists need
central wooden supports in the first place.... what section/size
wood are they?
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replying to Murmansk, Jen wrote:
Having a carpet as the base for a brickwork isn't that necessary. You can
start out with the built itself.

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replying to Murmansk, Jen wrote:
Having a carpet as the base for a brickwork isn't that necessary. You can
start out with the built itself.


Well it's a reply from HoH ....er... anyone care to translate?
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