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Peter Twydell wrote:


All of which reminds me of the Swedish pharmacy sketch (can't remember
who did it) but requires to be read with Swedish accent:

It was Alas Smith and Jones.


No it wasn't it was "Not the 9 O'clock news".

Although I believe it featured Griff Rhys Jones as the chemist and Mel
Smith was the customer.

IIRC, though my memory fades with time.

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and seating and end up with permanent back pain.


We only sit at the table, at mealtimes - and at the computer. Our other
chairs are redundant except for family occasions.


intrigued...

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and seating and end up with permanent back pain.


We only sit at the table, at mealtimes - and at the computer. Our other
chairs are redundant except for family occasions.


intrigued...


?

Mary

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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:27:32 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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Hi,

You probably don't economise on food because you can afford not to.


Our income is far less than the national average.

I'd rather eat cheaper food than shiver in the winter because the
heating is too low,


You can put on more clothing, as we do.


I do too, but there are limits, I doubt you wear 2 jumpers and have
the place heated to 15C or less in winter.

I'd even eat cheaper food than have poor bedding


?


Sorry, mattress, that sort of thing.

and seating and end up with permanent back pain.


We only sit at the table, at mealtimes - and at the computer. Our other
chairs are redundant except for family occasions.


Fair enough, I was just trying to explain there are other things that
affect health apart from food and drink.

As for quality getting the last 5% of quality available can be quite
expensive and not always necessary.


Not if you grow/make your own and buy direct rather than making more profits
for the already rich.


Bit difficult for me but if the local butcher or guy at the market are
richer than me I don't begrudge them for it. I don't like to feed the
corporations though - except where it's necessary.

Though the guy who owns the caff where I sometimes have a fry up
drives a Merc But I don't mind that either.

cheers,
Pete.
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:49:05 +0100, "Scorch" wrote:


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Fortunately I have four alternatives, all of whom continue to have
their own quality lines as well as a broad selection of national
brands.


I know of Lidl, Aldi and Netto, who is the other one?

I went into either a Lidl or an Aldi once. I won't be repeating the
experience - even worse than Morrisons. As far as I know, there are
none of these firm's stores within reasonable driving distance. A
good thing.

Generally I prefer to use the smaller specialist shops but for other
things use one or other of the major supermarkets.


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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:27:32 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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Hi,

You probably don't economise on food because you can afford not to.


Our income is far less than the national average.

I'd rather eat cheaper food than shiver in the winter because the
heating is too low,


You can put on more clothing, as we do.


I do too, but there are limits, I doubt you wear 2 jumpers and have
the place heated to 15C or less in winter.


Ours is set to 10C all year round.

I'd even eat cheaper food than have poor bedding


?


Sorry, mattress, that sort of thing.


You buy a mattress only once. Well, we have, in 40 years.

and seating and end up with permanent back pain.


We only sit at the table, at mealtimes - and at the computer. Our other
chairs are redundant except for family occasions.


Fair enough, I was just trying to explain there are other things that
affect health apart from food and drink.


Did I talk about food and drink in relation to health? To us they're
enjoyment, and are more important than any others.

As for quality getting the last 5% of quality available can be quite
expensive and not always necessary.


Not if you grow/make your own and buy direct rather than making more

profits
for the already rich.


Bit difficult for me but if the local butcher or guy at the market are
richer than me I don't begrudge them for it. I don't like to feed the
corporations though - except where it's necessary.

Though the guy who owns the caff where I sometimes have a fry up
drives a Merc But I don't mind that either.


We very, very rarely eat out.

cheers,
Pete.



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In message , IMM writes

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In message , IMM writes

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D.M. Procida writes
I've never got on well with deodorants, and have generally never

needed
or used them.

Good sentiments IMHO

The more I use them the more I find I need to be
deodorised, so I avoid them (I think it might be because they block

the
pores or something like that). I sweat as much as anyone else, but it
usually doesn't smell stale. Sometimes it does have an unpleasant

whiff,
which is hard to shift. Thorough washing with soap and water often
doesn't seem to help much.

I don't have a problem.

Oh Maxie! Spherical people sweat and smell a lot. Everyone knows that.


Don't come to me with your problems


If you were around your smelliness would be a problem, so buy a couple of
gallons of anti-spherical person spray. Better still buy a vat of it.

As I said, if you could read, I don't have a problem

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In message

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D.M. Procida writes
I've never got on well with deodorants, and have generally never

needed
or used them.

Good sentiments IMHO

The more I use them the more I find I need to be
deodorised, so I avoid them (I think it might be because they block

the
pores or something like that). I sweat as much as anyone else, but

it
usually doesn't smell stale. Sometimes it does have an unpleasant

whiff,
which is hard to shift. Thorough washing with soap and water often
doesn't seem to help much.

I don't have a problem.

Oh Maxie! Spherical people sweat and smell a lot. Everyone knows

that.

Don't come to me with your problems


If you were around your smelliness would be a problem, so buy a couple of
gallons of anti-spherical person spray. Better still buy a vat of it.

As I said, if you could read, I don't have a problem


Maxi!! When in the far east with your white suit and bike clips on you must
sweat and be smelly and put off the luscious lovelies.



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Peter Twydell wrote:


All of which reminds me of the Swedish pharmacy sketch (can't remember
who did it) but requires to be read with Swedish accent:

It was Alas Smith and Jones.


No it wasn't it was "Not the 9 O'clock news".

Although I believe it featured Griff Rhys Jones as the chemist and Mel
Smith was the customer.

IIRC, though my memory fades with time.

You could well be right. I know it was Griff and Mel, but forgot about
Not the Nine O'clock News. I can only plead brain overload (recalcitrant
PC, misbehaving macerator, inability to find the shoes I need, house
move going slowly, general decrepitude, etc.).
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:54:58 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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I do too, but there are limits, I doubt you wear 2 jumpers and have
the place heated to 15C or less in winter.


Ours is set to 10C all year round.


Wow, if you have no other heating it might be worth getting a wood
stove, wood can usually be had for free.

Did I talk about food and drink in relation to health? To us they're
enjoyment, and are more important than any others.


Sorry, you said it was what makes you so I assumed the health aspect
was important to you.

Though the guy who owns the caff where I sometimes have a fry up
drives a Merc But I don't mind that either.


We very, very rarely eat out.


Likewise, a lot of resteraunt food isn't up to much. But a fry up is
only about 4 quid and saves assembling the eggs, bacon, sausage,
mushrooms, chips, toast and coffee at home...

cheers,
Pete.


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Likewise, a lot of resteraunt food isn't up to much. But a fry up is
only about 4 quid and saves assembling the eggs, bacon, sausage,
mushrooms, chips, toast and coffee at home...


£4 for ONE???

Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and potatoes,
make the bread ...


Mary

cheers,
Pete.



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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
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I can only plead brain overload (recalcitrant
PC, misbehaving macerator, inability to find the shoes I need, house
move going slowly, general decrepitude, etc.).


It's reaching the age of wisdom.

You're now wise enough to admit that you're not perfect ...

Mary
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Thorough washing with soap and water often
doesn't seem to help much.


Daniele,
Have you tried showering before work?
I know from experience, attempting to "wash" your pits in the sink with
soap & flannel is next to useless, and actually takes longer than having
a full sower, what with the water running down your elbow onto the floor
etc.

I believe if you do the shower thing before work every day, you'll not
need deodorant, though you'll find it might help later into the
afternoon/evening.

If you don't want to go to bed feeling a little smelly, the only thing
to do is have 2 x showers a day. A shower can be over and done in less
than 5 minutes, so it's no harder than brushing your teeth!

Oh, an NEVER EVER wear the same blouse/shirt/top for more than 12 hours
without bunging it in the washing machine... unlike some stinky B'stds
that wear their clothes 2 or 3 days running yet still believe it's a
genetic rather than a personal cleanliness problem.

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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:49:33 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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Likewise, a lot of resteraunt food isn't up to much. But a fry up is
only about 4 quid and saves assembling the eggs, bacon, sausage,
mushrooms, chips, toast and coffee at home...


£4 for ONE???

Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and potatoes,
make the bread ...


Nice! But my garden is waaay too small for that, and too shady to grow
stuff.

4 quid isn't too bad for SW London, it also pays for the caff and the
staff etc. Better than McD's anyway, they bring it to your table on
plate and it's hot and freshly cooked, and the staff seem to be
happier.

cheers,
Pete.
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Pet wrote:

Thorough washing with soap and water often
doesn't seem to help much.


Have you tried showering before work?
I know from experience, attempting to "wash" your pits in the sink with
soap & flannel is next to useless, and actually takes longer than having
a full sower, what with the water running down your elbow onto the floor
etc.


I wouldn't know - that is not something I've ever attempted in my life.
When I say washing, I mean in a shower.

I believe if you do the shower thing before work every day, you'll not
need deodorant, though you'll find it might help later into the
afternoon/evening.


If it doesn't get started, I find I don't need a deodorant at all for an
entire day or more. Today I cycled to work, cycled home (failing to
improve on my personal best top speed), spent two hours at Aikido
wearing a heavy suit which now feels as though someone had a bath in it,
and there's not the faintest whiff about me. I think I might be luckier
than other people in that respect, but if I use a deodorant I pay for it
later.

Oh, an NEVER EVER wear the same blouse/shirt/top for more than 12 hours
without bunging it in the washing machine... unlike some stinky B'stds
that wear their clothes 2 or 3 days running yet still believe it's a
genetic rather than a personal cleanliness problem.


I often wear the same shirt two days running (not today's though),
lacking either a servant or a wife. It doesn't seem to be a problem in
itself.

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Mary Fisher wrote:

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
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In message , Mary
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and seating and end up with permanent back pain.

We only sit at the table, at mealtimes - and at the computer. Our other
chairs are redundant except for family occasions.


intrigued...


?


I think he's intrigued in that most people sit down for extended periods.
Reading, ... I belive you've mentioned that you don't own a TV, so that's
out.
Either standing or lying down only is unusual.
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:49:33 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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"Pete C" wrote in message
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Likewise, a lot of resteraunt food isn't up to much. But a fry up is
only about 4 quid and saves assembling the eggs, bacon, sausage,
mushrooms, chips, toast and coffee at home...


£4 for ONE???

Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and potatoes,
make the bread ...

You keep pigs? or what is the starting point of your home cure
bacon, Mary?
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:50:49 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
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I can only plead brain overload (recalcitrant
PC, misbehaving macerator, inability to find the shoes I need, house
move going slowly, general decrepitude, etc.).


It's reaching the age of wisdom.

You're now wise enough to admit that you're not perfect ...

Mary


That's a good thing.

When you are perfect, there is only one way to go.......


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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:31:29 GMT, Peter Twydell
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Peter Twydell wrote:


All of which reminds me of the Swedish pharmacy sketch (can't remember
who did it) but requires to be read with Swedish accent:

It was Alas Smith and Jones.


No it wasn't it was "Not the 9 O'clock news".

Although I believe it featured Griff Rhys Jones as the chemist and Mel
Smith was the customer.

IIRC, though my memory fades with time.

You could well be right. I know it was Griff and Mel, but forgot about
Not the Nine O'clock News. I can only plead brain overload (recalcitrant
PC, misbehaving macerator, inability to find the shoes I need, house
move going slowly, general decrepitude, etc.).


Did they also do the learning Swedish cafe sketch?

Customer: F.U.N.E.M?
Cafe Owner: S.V.F.M
Customer: F.U.N.E.X?
Cafe Owner: S.V.F.X
Customer: N.L.F.M.N..X






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nog wrote:

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0100, D.M. Procida wrote:


Mary Fisher wrote:


Morrison does sell the excellent Orchard Grove organic orange juice which is
the only one we drink and has a far superior flavour to anything else we've
ever tried. Yes, it's expensive but you get what you pay for - food is the
last thing to economise on.


No, I think parachutes are the last thing to economise on. Or aircraft
maintenance.



You're both wrong - it's toilet paper. :^)


You are all wrong. The last thing anyone economises on is their funeral.



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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
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I can only plead brain overload (recalcitrant
PC, misbehaving macerator, inability to find the shoes I need, house
move going slowly, general decrepitude, etc.).


It's reaching the age of wisdom.

You're now wise enough to admit that you're not perfect ...

Not perfect today, but there's always next week...

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Mary Fisher wrote:

"dave @ stejonda" wrote in message
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In message , Mary
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and seating and end up with permanent back pain.

We only sit at the table, at mealtimes - and at the computer. Our

other
chairs are redundant except for family occasions.

intrigued...


?


I think he's intrigued in that most people sit down for extended periods.


Oh. Well, our mealtimes are pretty extended as a rule :-)

Reading,


Ah - yes - I forgot about the other times we sit. In the Reading Room.

... I belive you've mentioned that you don't own a TV, so that's
out.


Yes.

Either standing or lying down only is unusual.


We work standing up and sleep lying down. Except when he's spinning with a
wheel, he sits for that but stands for drop spinning of course. Come to
think of it, he usually sits when making skeps. and I sit when sowing and
planting if I can.

Mary


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"Pete C" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:49:33 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

Likewise, a lot of resteraunt food isn't up to much. But a fry up is
only about 4 quid and saves assembling the eggs, bacon, sausage,
mushrooms, chips, toast and coffee at home...


£4 for ONE???

Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and potatoes,
make the bread ...


Nice! But my garden is waaay too small for that, and too shady to grow
stuff.

4 quid isn't too bad for SW London, it also pays for the caff and the
staff etc. Better than McD's anyway, they bring it to your table on
plate and it's hot and freshly cooked, and the staff seem to be
happier.


But wouldn't it be cheaper to buy your own things and cook them yourself?

This is a DIY ng after all ... :-)

Mary

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Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and potatoes,
make the bread ...

You keep pigs? or what is the starting point of your home cure
bacon, Mary?


A local rare breeds farm. I wish we could keep a pig but in inner city Leeds
the neighbours would have a fit! They think we're odd but not objectionable
and we must bear in mind that while we might enjoy animal by product odours
not everyone's of the same opinion.

Mary
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:50:49 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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"Peter Twydell" wrote in message
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I can only plead brain overload (recalcitrant
PC, misbehaving macerator, inability to find the shoes I need, house
move going slowly, general decrepitude, etc.).


It's reaching the age of wisdom.

You're now wise enough to admit that you're not perfect ...

Mary


That's a good thing.

When you are perfect, there is only one way to go.......


LOL! That proves your wisdom. I hope I remember it ...

Mary


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"Mary Fisher" wrote
| Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and
| potatoes, make the bread ...

But (and I mean this in the nicest possible way) you're not normal, Mary.

Owain


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| Our hens lay our eggs, I cure our own bacon, grow tomatoes and
| potatoes, make the bread ...

But (and I mean this in the nicest possible way) you're not normal, Mary.


What a lovely compliment :-)

Thank you!

Mary

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IMM wrote:
Every Safeway store was/is being stripped of its stock and
replaced by Morrison's stock.


Almost correct - My local Safeway's stock is being replaced with Waitrose
stock right about now. It will also stock other JLP 'non-food' items.
Re-opens next week........

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We work standing up and sleep lying down. Except when he's spinning with a
wheel, he sits for that but stands for drop spinning of course. Come to
think of it, he usually sits when making skeps. and I sit when sowing and
planting if I can.

"Continental" toilet Mary ?

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We work standing up and sleep lying down. Except when he's spinning with

a
wheel, he sits for that but stands for drop spinning of course. Come to
think of it, he usually sits when making skeps. and I sit when sowing and
planting if I can.

"Continental" toilet Mary ?


Huh?

I thought I remembered (eventually) the Reading Room ...

Mary

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:22:43 +0100, "Alan Vann"
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IMM wrote:
Every Safeway store was/is being stripped of its stock and
replaced by Morrison's stock.


Almost correct - My local Safeway's stock is being replaced with Waitrose
stock right about now. It will also stock other JLP 'non-food' items.
Re-opens next week........

Alan


Hopefully Morrisons will sell other stores to Waitrose as they learn
that their cheap junk approach doesn't work in every area.


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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message .net...
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:27:32 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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Ours is set to 10C all year round.


Night time mortality is much higher at 10C.

You buy a mattress only once. Well, we have, in 40 years.


Must be a very well made mattress to last that long. I spose its
pointless asking what make, maybe what type of construction?


Regards, NT
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:19:02 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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It doesn't for me :-(

I sweat a lot and smell a lot. I use deodorants made by men in white coats
and they work.


Try an anti-perspirant containing aluminium chloride hexahydrate
(Anhydrol Forte is one make). It blocks the sweat glands and they
eventually "learn" to stop sweating. I spent all my teenage years
trying to find clothes that didn't show sweat-marks and I wish I had
discovered this anti-perspirant earlier. I stopped using it about
five years ago and my armpits have still forgotten that they are
allowed to sweat :-)

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:56:43 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:22:43 +0100, "Alan Vann"
wrote:

IMM wrote:
Every Safeway store was/is being stripped of its stock and
replaced by Morrison's stock.


Almost correct - My local Safeway's stock is being replaced with Waitrose
stock right about now. It will also stock other JLP 'non-food' items.
Re-opens next week........

Alan


Hopefully Morrisons will sell other stores to Waitrose as they learn
that their cheap junk approach doesn't work in every area.


Our local Safeway is in the process of being transformed into a Sainsbury.
Quite relieved as we had dreadful visions of Morrison-sized queues at the
checkouts.
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:27:32 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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Ours is set to 10C all year round.


Night time mortality is much higher at 10C.


I don't understand your point ...

You buy a mattress only once. Well, we have, in 40 years.


Must be a very well made mattress to last that long. I spose its
pointless asking what make, maybe what type of construction?


It was a good one, it cost £90 In Those Days :-)

For interest I just had a look. I can't see a label on it. It's about 7"
deep, sprung with a quilted cover and metal handles on the sides. It's firm
but resilient. We bought a deep box base at the same time because out
ancient Victorian bedstead had nothing to support the mattress. The mattress
is always covered with a wool blanket under the sheet so it's protected from
wear, the blanket also gives extra comfort and insulation.

Because of all that height the bed is very easy to get in and out of,
there's no bending or climbing. The children had to be hauled in when they
were small but it's very easy for us now that we're getting rickety. When
I've had to sleep in the spare bed, which is much lower, it's been difficult
to get out. I hate low beds.

We were very short of money in those days but we'd been sleeping on an
ancient flock mattress which was very uncomfortable and sagged in the
middle, it was like sleeping in a hammock and our physical health was
suffering so we decided to go for broke. We looked long and hard and chose
our present mattress but couldn't afford it outright so we applied for hire
purchase. It was much more difficult then and we had to have a guarantor. We
only knew one person who had the necessary financial standing and he agreed.
But, bless him, he paid for it outright and every time we talked about
re-paying him he changed the subject or said we'd talk later.

His generosity is remembered nightly.

Mary








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Hopefully Morrisons will sell other stores to Waitrose as they learn
that their cheap junk approach doesn't work in every area.


There's a demand - a need even - for both approaches.

Morrison doesn't sell only cheap junk. When I've had to go to Safeways it
seemed that Safeways did. For instance, I can always get organic milk at
Morrison, Safeways seemed to have such a small stock that it sold out
quickly. Not good stock control.

I'd be very happy to have a local Waitrose but it isn't going to happen. My
reason isn't price but good quality - and locally sourced foods. But we seem
to manage very well with our present arrangements. Baby son came at short
notice to dinner last night and was amazed at what I could rustle up without
going shopping. I felt very smug because he's so critical about food.

I can't imagine where he gets it from ...

:-)

Mary


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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:16:07 +0100, nog wrote:

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:56:43 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:22:43 +0100, "Alan Vann"
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IMM wrote:
Every Safeway store was/is being stripped of its stock and
replaced by Morrison's stock.

Almost correct - My local Safeway's stock is being replaced with Waitrose
stock right about now. It will also stock other JLP 'non-food' items.
Re-opens next week........

Alan


Hopefully Morrisons will sell other stores to Waitrose as they learn
that their cheap junk approach doesn't work in every area.


Our local Safeway is in the process of being transformed into a Sainsbury.
Quite relieved as we had dreadful visions of Morrison-sized queues at the
checkouts.


That would be reasonably acceptable too.


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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:29:05 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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Hopefully Morrisons will sell other stores to Waitrose as they learn
that their cheap junk approach doesn't work in every area.


There's a demand - a need even - for both approaches.

Morrison doesn't sell only cheap junk. When I've had to go to Safeways it
seemed that Safeways did. For instance, I can always get organic milk at
Morrison, Safeways seemed to have such a small stock that it sold out
quickly. Not good stock control.


I agree regarding their stock control and didn't feel that they were
as good as the the major players. They did have an own brand of
better quality products which sold well, but those seem to be
disappearing.

Morrisons appear to be making the classic mistake of not looking at
the local conditions but applying a one size fits all mentality.
This will cost them dearly.


I'd be very happy to have a local Waitrose but it isn't going to happen. My
reason isn't price but good quality - and locally sourced foods.


All of the supermarkets could do a better job at that. They would do
well to take a trip to France and look at the quality and
presentation, expecially of fresh produce in supermarkets there.


But we seem
to manage very well with our present arrangements. Baby son came at short
notice to dinner last night and was amazed at what I could rustle up without
going shopping. I felt very smug because he's so critical about food.

I can't imagine where he gets it from ...

:-)

Mary


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Morrisons appear to be making the classic mistake of not looking at
the local conditions but applying a one size fits all mentality.
This will cost them dearly.


We shall see. They have an awful lot of experience.

I'd be very happy to have a local Waitrose but it isn't going to happen.

My
reason isn't price but good quality - and locally sourced foods.


All of the supermarkets could do a better job at that. They would do
well to take a trip to France and look at the quality and
presentation, expecially of fresh produce in supermarkets there.


We're lucky in Leeds in that we have an excellent market as well as a
Farmers' Market - sadly only once a month.

Perhaps French shoppers demand more of their shops. Certainly most UK
shoppers seem to be very happy with stuff I wouldn't touch.


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Perhaps French shoppers demand more of their shops. Certainly most UK
shoppers seem to be very happy with stuff I wouldn't touch.


It think that that is probably it, and the prices are generally lower
than in the UK as well.


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