Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.



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On 29/06/2020 19:38, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.



shocking

On 29/06/2020 19:38, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.



I've got some 1992 bottled beer under my stairs - however it is around
11% ABV (Courage Russian Stout). Two bottles I drank over the Christmas
period were very nice

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alan_m posted
On 29/06/2020 19:38, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your
out of date barrels.

I've got some 1992 bottled beer under my stairs - however it is around
11% ABV (Courage Russian Stout). Two bottles I drank over the
Christmas period were very nice

Bloody hell. I used to drink that in 1977. Didn't know you could still
get it - even in 1992.

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On 29/06/2020 20:11, alan_m wrote:
On 29/06/2020 19:38, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your
out of date barrels.



I've got some 1992 bottled beer under my stairs - however it is around
11% ABVÂ* (Courage Russian Stout). Two bottles I drank over the Christmas
period were very nice


Sounds like a 'best after' date would be more useful then !

On 29/06/2020 19:38, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.




Some of them may actually taste better with a longer conditioning period.



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Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.




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On 29/06/2020 22:00, Jimk wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.




Who'sat then?


Well the barrel that refreshes the parts other beers cannot reach is one
of the barrels.

The Moretti and John Smiths have also been relabelled.

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On 29/06/2020 22:00, Jimk wrote:
ARW Wrote in message:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.




Who'sat then?


Well the barrel that refreshes the parts other beers cannot reach is one
of the barrels.

The Moretti and John Smiths have also been relabelled.


Ah keg beer....yuck! Tho sterile until tapped iirc?
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On Monday, 29 June 2020 19:38:09 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

In Cornwall:

Thousands of gallons of beer have been poured down the drain in Cornwall in the past week as pubs prepare to reopen.

It has been a challenge for South West Water, which has had to co-ordinate time slots for every pub to avoid overloading the system.

Mr Williams had to get rid of his beer on a Friday and a Monday, pouring 50 gallons each day.
"It took over an hour to get rid of but it had to be done," he said.
Staff at South West Water said they had to make sure only small amounts of beer were released into the system on any one day.
Andrew Rowntree, from the utility company, said beer took a lot of oxygen to break down - oxygen which was vital to the way water treatment plants worked.
If the treatment process gets hit with a lot of beer, then the bacteria within our system has a 'bad night out', and it doesn't do any good at all. It can completely kill our sewage treatment processes."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

Owain

On 29/06/2020 23:02, wrote:
On Monday, 29 June 2020 19:38:09 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

In Cornwall:

Thousands of gallons of beer have been poured down the drain in Cornwall in the past week as pubs prepare to reopen.

But was it in casks that had already been opened and just left for the
duration due to the pub being closed. Anything that has been opened is
likely to be completely undrinkable at this time.

I guess that some pubs on day one of the lock-down just shut their doors
and no cellar work has taken place until recently.

Some other pubs ran a take-away service and sold off what was in opened
casks relatively quickly, I'm aware of pubs with a brewery still
supplying selling take-away beer in a box for the duration of the pub
lock-out but the managers probably had the foresight to order the
necessary supplies of take-away containers in time.


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On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 08:55:53 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
I guess that some pubs on day one of the lock-down just shut their doors
and no cellar work has taken place until recently.

I thought that most if not all were emptying as quickly as possible after lockdown for insurance requirements.

Or perhaps all those signs "all stock removed from premises" are not all true.

In Edinburgh empty houses sometimes have "all fireplaces removed from premises" signs.

Owain

On 30/06/2020 09:30, wrote:
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 08:55:53 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
I guess that some pubs on day one of the lock-down just shut their doors
and no cellar work has taken place until recently.

I thought that most if not all were emptying as quickly as possible after lockdown for insurance requirements.

Or perhaps all those signs "all stock removed from premises" are not all true.

Casks of beer left in a cellar are unlikely to be stolen. Bottles of
spirit and fags on the other hand.....



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On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:30:26 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

snip

In Edinburgh empty houses sometimes have "all fireplaces removed from premises" signs.

We had cast iron fires / surrounds in the Victorian cottage when I
bought it and have since pulled all but one out. A builder doing some
other work here saw them and suggested they were 'worth a bit'.

I took a photograph of one and showed it to a local fire reclaimers,
asking them if it would be any interest and he said 'no thanks' (at
nearly any money).

Whilst it was fairly ornate and undamaged, they really only wanted the
bigger ones (these were mostly bedroom sized). ;-(

So unless the mixed-light-iron scrap price has skyrocketed ... ?

Cheers, T i m

On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 11:37:13 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
We had cast iron fires / surrounds in the Victorian cottage when I
bought it and have since pulled all but one out. A builder doing some
other work here saw them and suggested they were 'worth a bit'.

It's the Adam marble that's expensive, not the grate from the third housemaid's garret.

Owain

On 30/06/2020 11:37, T i m wrote:

We had cast iron fires / surrounds in the Victorian cottage when I
bought it and have since pulled all but one out. A builder doing some
other work here saw them and suggested they were 'worth a bit'.

I took a photograph of one and showed it to a local fire reclaimers,
asking them if it would be any interest and he said 'no thanks' (at
nearly any money).

Whilst it was fairly ornate and undamaged, they really only wanted the
bigger ones (these were mostly bedroom sized). ;-(

So unless the mixed-light-iron scrap price has skyrocketed ... ?


Same experience 35 years ago when pulling out cast iron bedroom fireplaces.

Estate agents describing a property as full of period features usually
means full of outdated old crap that most people discarded 50+ years ago.


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On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:02:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, 29 June 2020 19:38:09 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

In Cornwall:

Thousands of gallons of beer have been poured down the drain in Cornwall in the past week as pubs prepare to reopen.

It has been a challenge for South West Water, which has had to co-ordinate time slots for every pub to avoid overloading the system.

Mr Williams had to get rid of his beer on a Friday and a Monday, pouring 50 gallons each day.
"It took over an hour to get rid of but it had to be done," he said.
Staff at South West Water said they had to make sure only small amounts of beer were released into the system on any one day.
Andrew Rowntree, from the utility company, said beer took a lot of oxygen to break down - oxygen which was vital to the way water treatment plants worked.
If the treatment process gets hit with a lot of beer, then the bacteria within our system has a 'bad night out', and it doesn't do any good at all. It can completely kill our sewage treatment processes."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

Owain

Pub teneant in the village told me that there were 55 million pints across
the UK; about a week later his mother, who runs the pub in the next village,
said 72 million!
Apparently it's being disposed of locally because the delivery lorries can't
load the 'barrels' - drop and bounce doesn't work well in reverse - and it's
too expensive and complicated to hire lorries.
Marstons is reimbursing pubs for the wasted beer; I don't know what Wells is
doing re. rent, but it has a poor reputation as a pubco.
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:02:32 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Monday, 29 June 2020 19:38:09 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

In Cornwall:

Thousands of gallons of beer have been poured down the drain in Cornwall in the past week as pubs prepare to reopen.

It has been a challenge for South West Water, which has had to co-ordinate time slots for every pub to avoid overloading the system.

Mr Williams had to get rid of his beer on a Friday and a Monday, pouring 50 gallons each day.
"It took over an hour to get rid of but it had to be done," he said.
Staff at South West Water said they had to make sure only small amounts of beer were released into the system on any one day.
Andrew Rowntree, from the utility company, said beer took a lot of oxygen to break down - oxygen which was vital to the way water treatment plants worked.
If the treatment process gets hit with a lot of beer, then the bacteria within our system has a 'bad night out', and it doesn't do any good at all. It can completely kill our sewage treatment processes."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

There was a girl at my school who used to add a small amount of whisky
to the goldfish bowl if she thought the goldfish was depressed.

On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 09:12:05 UTC+1, Scott wrote:
There was a girl at my school who used to add a small amount of whisky
to the goldfish bowl if she thought the goldfish was depressed.

That's wrong in so many ways, but what a delightful thought.

Owain

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.

On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.



Don't they now have to first recruit more staff and train them - it will
take them all of 5 minutes to train a cellar-man how to keep beer in
good condition

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alan_m Wrote in message:
On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.



Don't they now have to first recruit more staff and train them - it will
take them all of 5 minutes to train a cellar-man how to keep beer in
good condition


Fsv of "beer" you mean? like "cough-tinental" larger & guinness
(black larger)
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On 30/06/2020 12:15, Jimk wrote:

Fsv of "beer" you mean? like "cough-tinental" larger & guinness
(black larger)


I've known pubs where poor cellarmanship can F*** ** nearly everything
that comes out of the pumps.

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On 30/06/2020 12:15, Jimk wrote:

Fsv of "beer" you mean? like "cough-tinental" larger & guinness
(black larger)


I've known pubs where poor cellarmanship can F*** ** nearly everything
that comes out of the pumps.


Lager liking, nouvelle ££ cuisine selling, gastro bollox amateurs
IME & O
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On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.

Don't they now have to first recruit more staff and train them

Why cant they use the ones they had before ?

- it will take them all of 5 minutes to train a cellar-man how to keep
beer in good condition

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On 30/06/2020 20:29, Rod Speed wrote:

Why cant they use the ones they had before ?

They were all told to go and find jobs in Tesco!





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alan_m wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Why cant they use the ones (pub cellarmen
who were laid off) they had before ?

They were all told to go and find jobs in Tesco!

But were unlikely to have actually found any there.

On 30 Jun 2020 at 09:02:54 BST, "alan_m" wrote:

On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.



Don't they now have to first recruit more staff and train them - it will
take them all of 5 minutes to train a cellar-man how to keep beer in
good condition

I'll happily stand corrected, but I'd have thought there's quite a lot to
keeping cask beer and making sure it's served in top condition.
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On 01/07/2020 12:51, RJH wrote:
On 30 Jun 2020 at 09:02:54 BST, "alan_m" wrote:

On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.



Don't they now have to first recruit more staff and train them - it will
take them all of 5 minutes to train a cellar-man how to keep beer in
good condition

I'll happily stand corrected, but I'd have thought there's quite a lot to
keeping cask beer and making sure it's served in top condition.

No need for you to be corrected. It's not simple.

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On 01/07/2020 12:51, RJH wrote:


I'll happily stand corrected, but I'd have thought there's quite a lot to
keeping cask beer and making sure it's served in top condition.


Exactly - but you have probably not experienced the cellerman's
workmanship in one of my local Wetherspoon pubs!



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On 1 Jul 2020 at 15:42:57 BST, "alan_m" wrote:

On 01/07/2020 12:51, RJH wrote:


I'll happily stand corrected, but I'd have thought there's quite a lot to
keeping cask beer and making sure it's served in top condition.


Exactly - but you have probably not experienced the cellerman's
workmanship in one of my local Wetherspoon pubs!

Tell me about it. I have to go to the cursed place because a couple of pals
can't go anywhere else, mobility reasons. I drink keg lager or tinned beer,
it's that bad. I've tried several pints that were just shy of vinegar. Not got
vast experience of them so maybe it's a one-off.

I did go on a small brewery tour a few years back. They complained that
Wetherspoons distort the market and drive prices low by bulk buying just as
the beer is on the cusp of its sell by date. So maybe it's gone off too.

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On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 15:42:57 +0100, alan_m wrote:

On 01/07/2020 12:51, RJH wrote:


I'll happily stand corrected, but I'd have thought there's quite a lot to
keeping cask beer and making sure it's served in top condition.


Exactly - but you have probably not experienced the cellerman's
workmanship in one of my local Wetherspoon pubs!

Same here - refurbished the pub but not the 'expertise' so I offered,
without asking the manager of my favourite pub as consultant. She was
reckoned, by two reps who covered half of England, to be the best beer
keeper in the country, i.e. thae whole world and Potters bar.
Even a 5.2% ale that was brewed a sack barrow delivery away was off.
I still have about £15 quids worth of CAMRA tokens to use - need to make a
profit on my membership!
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On 30 Jun 2020 at 09:02:54 BST, "alan_m" wrote:

On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.



Don't they now have to first recruit more staff and train them - it will
take them all of 5 minutes to train a cellar-man how to keep beer in good
condition

I'll happily stand corrected, but I'd have thought there's quite a lot to
keeping cask beer and making sure it's served in top condition.

Yes,. but that doesnt involve the best before date.

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On 29/06/2020 23:43, Custos Custodum wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

Coming soon to a Wetherspoons near you.


I have not yet got proof that Spoons have done it.

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On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

To be fair here, could it be that they are testing the beer first to
check that it is okay then applying a new label (rather than just
changing the labels)?

On 30/06/2020 21:41, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

To be fair here, could it be that they are testing the beer first to
check that it is okay then applying a new label (rather than just
changing the labels)?


I shall be able to get that info for you tomorrow - final day sorting
out the CCTV, outside lights, wifi to the beer garden so that the
waitress service app works etc for the big opening on Saturday.

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On 02/07/2020 20:41, ARW wrote:
On 30/06/2020 21:41, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

To be fair here, could it be that they are testing the beer first to
check that it is okay then applying a new label (rather than just
changing the labels)?


I shall be able to get that info for you tomorrow - final day sorting
out the CCTV, outside lights, wifi to the beer garden so that the
waitress service app works etc for the big opening on Saturday.


Apparently they tested the batch not the pubs individual kegs.

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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 20:54:37 +0100, ARW
wrote:

On 02/07/2020 20:41, ARW wrote:
On 30/06/2020 21:41, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 19:38:08 +0100, ARW
wrote:

Nice to see the breweries sticking on new best before dates on your out
of date barrels.

To be fair here, could it be that they are testing the beer first to
check that it is okay then applying a new label (rather than just
changing the labels)?


I shall be able to get that info for you tomorrow - final day sorting
out the CCTV, outside lights, wifi to the beer garden so that the
waitress service app works etc for the big opening on Saturday.

Apparently they tested the batch not the pubs individual kegs.

I suppose there is some logic there, as the original 'best before'
date must have been estimated on the basis of the characteristics of
the batch.

I don't drink beer at present but I am pretty confident that any of my
beer enthusiast friends would be able to tell immediately if a pint
was 'off'.