The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.
--
Ian

Ian Jackson wrote:

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have

no, but "80mm backset" might prove a useful search term

In message , Andy Burns
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have

no, but "80mm backset" might prove a useful search term

But yet again, it 'might' not! [Well, not as far as I can see.]
--
Ian

Ian Jackson wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Ian Jackson wrote:

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have

no, but "80mm backset" might prove a useful search term

But yet again, it 'might' not! [Well, not as far as I can see.]

Well, std "yale" lock is 60mm backset, the narrow ones are 40mm backset,
if a search doesn't find any 80mm backset ones you have an answer of
sorts ... get whittling that plug of wood!

On Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:39:29 UTC, Ian Jackson wrote:
The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.
--


Try Chubb.
https://www.locksonline.co.uk/Chubb-Locks.html

Also "Union" makes a similar lock.

In message ,
harry writes
On Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:39:29 UTC, Ian Jackson wrote:
The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.
--


Try Chubb.
https://www.locksonline.co.uk/Chubb-Locks.html

Also "Union" makes a similar lock.

Well, I've worn out the mouse scroll-wheel (and my forefinger) scrolling
through those two* - and neither even seem to make anything the Yale
type 77, let alone an 'extended' version.
*And several other manufacturers too.
--
Ian

I've never seen a Yale type lock that's any bigger than the one you link to - they're all either that size or a few are a bit narrower. I can't imagine why anyone would make a larger one.

In message ,
Murmansk writes
I've never seen a Yale type lock that's any bigger than the one you
link to - they're all either that size or a few are a bit narrower. I
can't imagine why anyone would make a larger one.

Well, having searched through loads of websites showing several hundred
makes and styles of lock, I can't imagine why there are so many
very-similar-and-only-very-slightly-different types of lock!
--
Ian

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:31:31 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.

I found the following words on the Alibaba website:

"221 80mm backset body lock products are offered for sale by suppliers
on Alibaba.com, of which locks accounts for 9%.

A wide variety of 80mm backset body lock options are available to you,

There are 21 suppliers who sells 80mm backset body lock on
Alibaba.com, mainly located in Asia. The top countries of supplier is
China, from which the percentage of 80mm backset body lock supply is
100% respectively."

--
Dave W

In message , Dave W
writes
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:31:31 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.

I found the following words on the Alibaba website:

"221 80mm backset body lock products are offered for sale by suppliers
on Alibaba.com, of which locks accounts for 9%.

A wide variety of 80mm backset body lock options are available to you,

There are 21 suppliers who sells 80mm backset body lock on
Alibaba.com, mainly located in Asia. The top countries of supplier is
China, from which the percentage of 80mm backset body lock supply is
100% respectively."

Thanks. I've found the relevant information. Most of the locks are
mortice locks (inset into the door), and the rest are some other rather
weird types. There are none that are similar to the Yale 77 type.

I think my best bet is a simple surface-mounted 'rim lock' (heaven knows
where they get these names from!) - but it needs to be one where the
keyhole is at least around 80mm from the edge of the door, otherwise the
key is going to be uncomfortably close to the door frame for comfort.
Most of those available seem to have the keyhole quite a bit less than
this.
--
Ian

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:58:53 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Dave W
writes
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:31:31 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.

I found the following words on the Alibaba website:

"221 80mm backset body lock products are offered for sale by suppliers
on Alibaba.com, of which locks accounts for 9%.

A wide variety of 80mm backset body lock options are available to you,

There are 21 suppliers who sells 80mm backset body lock on
Alibaba.com, mainly located in Asia. The top countries of supplier is
China, from which the percentage of 80mm backset body lock supply is
100% respectively."

Thanks. I've found the relevant information. Most of the locks are
mortice locks (inset into the door), and the rest are some other rather
weird types. There are none that are similar to the Yale 77 type.

I think my best bet is a simple surface-mounted 'rim lock' (heaven knows
where they get these names from!) - but it needs to be one where the
keyhole is at least around 80mm from the edge of the door, otherwise the
key is going to be uncomfortably close to the door frame for comfort.
Most of those available seem to have the keyhole quite a bit less than
this.

I would have thought it wouldn't be too difficult to use a 60mm lock,
but cut and extend the moving part by 20mm.
--
Dave W

In message , Dave W
writes
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:58:53 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Dave W
writes
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:31:31 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.

I found the following words on the Alibaba website:

"221 80mm backset body lock products are offered for sale by suppliers
on Alibaba.com, of which locks accounts for 9%.

A wide variety of 80mm backset body lock options are available to you,

There are 21 suppliers who sells 80mm backset body lock on
Alibaba.com, mainly located in Asia. The top countries of supplier is
China, from which the percentage of 80mm backset body lock supply is
100% respectively."

Thanks. I've found the relevant information. Most of the locks are
mortice locks (inset into the door), and the rest are some other rather
weird types. There are none that are similar to the Yale 77 type.

I think my best bet is a simple surface-mounted 'rim lock' (heaven knows
where they get these names from!) - but it needs to be one where the
keyhole is at least around 80mm from the edge of the door, otherwise the
key is going to be uncomfortably close to the door frame for comfort.
Most of those available seem to have the keyhole quite a bit less than
this.

I would have thought it wouldn't be too difficult to use a 60mm lock,
but cut and extend the moving part by 20mm.

Note - but on the contrary, I think that would be exceedingly difficult!

No - I think I'll have to use a surface mounted (rim) lock, and try to
get one with the keyhole as far as possible from the edge.
Unfortunately, most that are on show seem to be very similar, as a quick
Google shows:
https://tinyurl.com/wllfx23
--
Ian

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:19:06 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Dave W
writes
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:58:53 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Dave W
writes
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:31:31 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

The normal common Yale type 77 nightlatch lock is like this:
https://www.lockshopdirect.co.uk/pro...nal-nightlatch
-(60mm-backset)-case-only-22015/?StockCode=77CO&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvNSJzuC
16AIVzbHtCh0X4APAEAQYAiABEgKlmPD_BwE
or
https://preview.tinyurl.com/wl4xrkm
There are other makes that are very similar or identical.

One of my doors has such a lock, and the '60mm' appears to refer to the
distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the hole for the
barrel. The body of the lock is 93mm long and 62mm high.

At first sight, the one I need to replace looks the same as the type 77
- but the distance to the centre of the barrel is at 80mm (instead of
60mm), and the body is 105mm long (instead of 93mm. If I used the type
77, I would have to plug the original hole for the barrel, and drill out
a new one (32mm dia). Unfortunately, the door has a skeleton frame (I
don't mean the 'doorframe') with inset thin panels, and being 20mm
closer to the edge, the new hole for the barrel might seriously reduce
the strength of door.

So does anyone recognise the type of lock that I have, and who makes it?
Google doesn't seem to provide any answer.

I found the following words on the Alibaba website:

"221 80mm backset body lock products are offered for sale by suppliers
on Alibaba.com, of which locks accounts for 9%.

A wide variety of 80mm backset body lock options are available to you,

There are 21 suppliers who sells 80mm backset body lock on
Alibaba.com, mainly located in Asia. The top countries of supplier is
China, from which the percentage of 80mm backset body lock supply is
100% respectively."

Thanks. I've found the relevant information. Most of the locks are
mortice locks (inset into the door), and the rest are some other rather
weird types. There are none that are similar to the Yale 77 type.

I think my best bet is a simple surface-mounted 'rim lock' (heaven knows
where they get these names from!) - but it needs to be one where the
keyhole is at least around 80mm from the edge of the door, otherwise the
key is going to be uncomfortably close to the door frame for comfort.
Most of those available seem to have the keyhole quite a bit less than
this.

I would have thought it wouldn't be too difficult to use a 60mm lock,
but cut and extend the moving part by 20mm.

Note - but on the contrary, I think that would be exceedingly difficult!

Have you actually seen what the slider looks like? In my surface
mounted Yale lock it's pretty simple.
--
Dave W