Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number
..

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Cheers

In article . com,
wrote:
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

Do you mean a Euro?

The dorr is currently locked.

With the standard night latch Yale you can still open the door from the
inside and remove the lock. Then just buy a new barrel and keys.

But I'd guess it's a Euro on patio doors if they're the PVC sliding type.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Yep I think it is euro

Am I going to have to drill it out?

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

Do you mean a Euro?

The dorr is currently locked.

With the standard night latch Yale you can still open the door from the
inside and remove the lock. Then just buy a new barrel and keys.

But I'd guess it's a Euro on patio doors if they're the PVC sliding type.

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*The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:38 UTC, "KinRsole"
wrote:

Yep I think it is euro

Am I going to have to drill it out?

http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm

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Bob Eager wrote:

http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm

Is a mis-spent youth included?

On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:38 GMT, "KinRsole"
wrote:

Yep I think it is euro

Am I going to have to drill it out?

I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you
drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for
yourself.



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tarquinlinbin wrote:
I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you
drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for
yourself.

Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe.
I know a few escapologists and picking locks is a last resort with them.


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In article ,
KinRsole wrote:
Yep I think it is euro

Am I going to have to drill it out?

I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:14:38 UTC, "KinRsole"
wrote:

Yep I think it is euro

Am I going to have to drill it out?

http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm

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Bought a set last year, so far haven't managed to open anything :-) but they
are a good conversation piece, i.e. do you know what these are?

However I have drilled out a couple of yale locks when keys were lost...
but not had to try any euro locks yet!

Peter

Peter Andrews wrote:

Bought a set last year, so far haven't managed to open anything :-)
but they are a good conversation piece, i.e. do you know what these
are?


You sure they sent the English type. ;-)

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wrote:
Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a
number .

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Cheers

In future,allways get a key or two cut for entrance keys.
Blimey! its only £1.50p for a key cut against something that is now going
to cost £££'s.

;-)

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The message
from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words:

Am I going to have to drill it out?

I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it.

I had to drill a Euro out a couple of years ago. Took about twenty
minutes and a bit of swearing. Luckily it wasn't one of the sort with
anti-drill devices!

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

In article ,
Guy King writes:
The message
from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words:

Am I going to have to drill it out?

I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it.

I had to drill a Euro out a couple of years ago. Took about twenty
minutes and a bit of swearing. Luckily it wasn't one of the sort with
anti-drill devices!

Providing he has access to the inside of the door, it will
take a locksmith about 5 seconds to remove a locked eurolock.

--
Andrew Gabriel

The Medway Handyman wrote:
tarquinlinbin wrote:

I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you
drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for
yourself.


Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe.
I know a few escapologists and picking locks

....what exotic aquaintances. I think an escapolgist would carefully
select his lock "here's one I prepared earlier" with more than half the
levers missing.

john2

Peter Andrews wrote:

Bought a set last year
....
they are a good conversation piece

What, conversations like "I'm arresting you under section 25 of the
theft act for going equipped to steal, cheat or burgle"?

On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:56:15 GMT, Peter Andrews wrote:

Bought a set last year, so far haven't managed to open anything :-) but they
are a good conversation piece, i.e. do you know what these are?

I really liked this, should make people remember you!

http://www.emergentchaos.com/archive...ck_busine.html

Steve

In article , Andrew
Gabriel writes
In article ,
Guy King writes:
The message
from "Dave Plowman (News)" contains these words:

Am I going to have to drill it out?

I'd first ask a locksmith how much to open it.

I had to drill a Euro out a couple of years ago. Took about twenty
minutes and a bit of swearing. Luckily it wasn't one of the sort with
anti-drill devices!

Providing he has access to the inside of the door, it will
take a locksmith about 5 seconds to remove a locked eurolock.

How is a euro less secure from the inside? Assuming it is a double
cylinder.
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fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

john2 wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you
believe. I know a few escapologists and picking locks

...what exotic aquaintances. I think an escapolgist would carefully
select his lock "here's one I prepared earlier" with more than half
the levers missing.

Not 'exotic' if you have been a semi professional magician for the past 15
years. Most of my friends are ever so slightly weird and that's the way I
like it!


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Andy Burns wrote:
Bob Eager wrote:
http://www.lockpicks.co.uk/newpage7.htm

Is a mis-spent youth included?

I wish I'd had some of those, instead of bent needles and so on.

tarquinlinbin wrote:
"KinRsole" wrote:
Yep I think it is euro
Am I going to have to drill it out?

I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you
drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for
yourself.

You could always get a locksmith to come around in his "spare"
time, i.e. non-emergency. Does it have any anti-drill features,
I wonder?

In message . com,
writes
Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number
.

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Angle grinder

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geoff

The Medway Handyman wrote:
tarquinlinbin wrote:

I'd first spend a fair bit of time trying to pick it as unless you
drill it correctly,you might create a lot more mess/expense for
yourself.

Picking a lock is nothing like as easy as the films would have you believe.
I know a few escapologists and picking locks is a last resort with them.

Its a funny subject is lockpicking, theres probably more myth than
truth written about it. I'm not an expert at it but have picked a
number of them, all quite legally. Honest. I dont follow the usual
published advice, which seems more bragado than anything, as it takes
some skill to use with any serious success rate, and there are easier
ways. These are less glamorous, and no-one would make any money or
ego-boosting out of telling people how..

The simplest foolproof way to open a euro is to drill it. A 5mm bit
should open it in a minute or so. Its also worth trying any and all
keys youve got, you might get lucky. I doubt its worth buying a picking
set, not unless you want to take a significant interest in the subject.


NT

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The simplest foolproof way to open a euro is to drill it. A 5mm bit
should open it in a minute or so.

Not the clever sort with rolling bits and inset ballbearings etc.

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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

http://www.toool.nl/bumping.pdf ...

Hope that helps,
Dave H.
(The engineer formerly known as Homeless)
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Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number
.

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Cheers

wrote in message
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Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number
.

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Cheers

easy to drill if you know what you are doing, could have some hardened pins
but I doubt it.
As someone suggested drilling a bloody great hole can only make it worse.
There is another very quick but drastic way but you still need a wee bit
know how.

and the other way is??


"Scabbydug" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number
.

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Cheers

easy to drill if you know what you are doing, could have some hardened
pins but I doubt it.
As someone suggested drilling a bloody great hole can only make it worse.
There is another very quick but drastic way but you still need a wee bit
know how.

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Angle grinder

Dynamite.

Guy King wrote:
The message .com
from contains these words:

The simplest foolproof way to open a euro is to drill it. A 5mm bit
should open it in a minute or so.

Not the clever sort with rolling bits and inset ballbearings etc.

and hardened mushroom pins etc - but most dont have those features.

NT

KinRsole wrote:
and the other way is??

no-one really wants to say. If we do, there are more people that can
break in to our houses. And then prosecute us when we boot them out.


NT

wrote:

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

If you can get access to the back of the lock barrel, you could
push a curved piece of brass shim between the barrel and the hole
it's in, at the side where the tumblers are. At the same time
push the tumblers up one at a time with a hairclip until the shim
slips past the tumbler. When the shim is right in, the whole
tumbler can be removed. Careful of all the little springs that
will then pop out.
If you are very clever like me you can find an old key that goes
into the barrel and move the tumblers around until that key works.

wrote:
How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Angle grinder

Dynamite.

Thermal lance


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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:26:22 +0100, "Scabbydug"
wrote:


wrote in message
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Hi
I need to replace a Yale lock in my patio doors but I do not have the
key.

The dorr is currently locked.

I have reoved the lock surrounds in the hope there would be a lock
number which would enable me to order anew key but I can't see a number
.

Is it possable to get a new key without having the old one?

How do I replace the lock without having the original key?????

Cheers

easy to drill if you know what you are doing, could have some hardened pins
but I doubt it.
As someone suggested drilling a bloody great hole can only make it worse.
There is another very quick but drastic way but you still need a wee bit
know how.


Isn't snapping them with a mole wrench the lattest thing?