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blower resistor again...
Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside
down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... .....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... |
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On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... |
blower resistor again...
On 09/03/2020 17:45, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNvzyvn8J8 how do you get three speeds out of the resistor pack if the left is common and only the the two centre connectors gave a resistance and the right hand one is full on through the thermal fuse...or is the right hand terminal speed 3? and the middle two are 1 & 2 ...I don't get it??? |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... submitted this idea :
On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... You can short it for a brief test, but it is there to prevent it overheating and potentially a fire. No you cannot solder it, the heat would melt the solder. Some sort of mechanical connection is the only way - tiny nut and bolts, crimps, or point contact welding. |
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On 09/03/2020 17:54, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 17:45, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNvzyvn8J8 how do you get three speeds out of the resistor pack if the left is common and only the the two centre connectors gave a resistance and the right hand one is full on through the thermal fuse...or is the right hand terminal speed 3? and the middle two are 1 & 2 ...I don't get it??? One of these? http://79.sore.jimmychoopumps.co/hea...g-diagram.html I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. |
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On 09/03/2020 18:57, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/03/2020 17:54, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:45, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNvzyvn8J8 how do you get three speeds out of the resistor pack if the left is common and only the the two centre connectors gave a resistance and the right hand one is full on through the thermal fuse...or is the right hand terminal speed 3? and the middle two are 1 & 2 ...I don't get it??? One of these? http://79.sore.jimmychoopumps.co/hea...g-diagram.html This one is more clear: http://m.acpartsupplier.net/news/how...-31160480.html |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ... Only one way to find out. They can die for no good reason and they can fail for the good reason they are there. and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ... Yep. would have thought so ... |
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... Nope, solder melts at lower than that temp and you will kill the thermal fuse if you try brazing it on or using a high temp solder. |
UNBELIEVABLE: It's 06:08 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for TWO AND A HALF HOURS already!!!! LOL
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 06:08:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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UNBELIEVABLE: It's 06:04 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for OVER TWO HOURS already!!!! LOL
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 06:04:02 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH senile asshole's troll**** 06:04??? LOL Admit it, senile idiot, if you hadn't these ngs to troll in, you'd have NOBODY to talk to in your useless senile life! Let's all hope it will soon be over for you, you subnormal cretin! G -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... I take it you have seen the videos/reports of *certain* cars going up in flames because of overheating fan resistor packs? Watchdog did a feature about it ISTR... ;) Just a helpful note, check the cabin filter isn't clogged, for obvious reasons. |
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On 09/03/2020 18:57, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/03/2020 17:54, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:45, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNvzyvn8J8 how do you get three speeds out of the resistor pack if the left is common and only the the two centre connectors gave a resistance and the right hand one is full on through the thermal fuse...or is the right hand terminal speed 3? and the middle two are 1 & 2 ...I don't get it??? One of these? http://79.sore.jimmychoopumps.co/hea...g-diagram.html no idea they want me to get an account plastered all over the page .... I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? |
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On 09/03/2020 19:02, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/03/2020 18:57, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:54, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:45, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNvzyvn8J8 how do you get three speeds out of the resistor pack if the left is common and only the the two centre connectors gave a resistance and the right hand one is full on through the thermal fuse...or is the right hand terminal speed 3? and the middle two are 1 & 2 ...I don't get it??? One of these? http://79.sore.jimmychoopumps.co/hea...g-diagram.html This one is more clear: http://m.acpartsupplier.net/news/how...-31160480.html so there is a full power bypass and three speeds on that....did you not look at the video I posted?...that has a tear down and the circuit at the end...... |
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On 09/03/2020 18:36, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... submitted this idea : On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... You can short it for a brief test, but it is there to prevent it overheating and potentially a fire. No you cannot solder it, the heat would melt the solder. Some sort of mechanical connection is the only way - tiny nut and bolts, crimps, or point contact welding. bugger I was hoping solder would do it.....I was only going to short it to make sure the speeds are working....if it works may just get a new one... |
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On 09/03/2020 19:33, Lee wrote:
On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... I take it you have seen the videos/reports of *certain* cars going up in flames because of overheating fan resistor packs? Watchdog did a feature about it ISTR... ;) Just a helpful note, check the cabin filter isn't clogged, for obvious reasons. haven't seen that...I will check the filter thanks |
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On 09/03/2020 19:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 19:33, Lee wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... I take it you have seen the videos/reports of *certain* cars going up in flames because of overheating fan resistor packs? Watchdog did a feature about it ISTR... ;) Just a helpful note, check the cabin filter isn't clogged, for obvious reasons. haven't seen that...I will check the filter thanks If you've never changed the Duster's cabin filter since you got it, I'm not surprised it overheated. It must stink. |
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On 09/03/2020 19:08, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... Nope, solder melts at lower than that temp and you will kill the thermal fuse if you try brazing it on or using a high temp solder. OK I will try some mechanical method..... |
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On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. |
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On 09/03/2020 20:02, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/03/2020 19:52, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:33, Lee wrote: On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... I take it you have seen the videos/reports of *certain* cars going up in flames because of overheating fan resistor packs? Watchdog did a feature about it ISTR... ;) Just a helpful note, check the cabin filter isn't clogged, for obvious reasons. haven't seen that...I will check the filter thanks If you've never changed the Duster's cabin filter since you got it, I'm not surprised it overheated. It must stink. I was told being the basic model it didn't have one....let you know tomorrow...tee hee.....did the merc and it was quite clean after 15 years.... |
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On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... |
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On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hh |
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On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... Even worse, the all kinds of 'cr*p', including leaves, can end up in the heater. Often, there is space for one in the basic model - they just don't put the filter(s) in. Worth finding out and inserting. Helps if someone has Hay Fever as well. |
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On 09/03/2020 20:26, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... Even worse, the all kinds of 'cr*p', including leaves, can end up in the heater. Often, there is space for one in the basic model - they just don't put the filter(s) in. Worth finding out and inserting. Helps if someone has Hay Fever as well. might do but it might ruin my new resister pack...tee hee |
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On 09/03/2020 20:23, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hee free flowing.....I like that |
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On 09/03/2020 20:29, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:23, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hee free flowing.....I like that no stinking filter.... |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:29, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:23, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hee free flowing.....I like that no stinking filter.... If you say so. Of course, there is nothing stopping leaves, seeds etc, getting into the heater. But you save a few pounds a year. After all, something caused your current problem. |
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Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hh Generally only fitted in cars with air-con. If dust and pollen enter the system whilst the condenser is chilling, theyll stick to the damp condenser. If you dont have air-con, you dont *need* a filter. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 09/03/2020 21:04, Brian Reay wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:29, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:23, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hee free flowing.....I like that no stinking filter.... If you say so. Of course, there is nothing stopping leaves, seeds etc, getting into the heater. But you save a few pounds a year. After all, something caused your current problem. component old age ,... |
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On 09/03/2020 21:06, Tim+ wrote:
Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: On 09/03/2020 20:10, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. as I said the specs of the car at the time said it didn't have one being the basic model......probably has one after all... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/forum/to...pollen-filter/ ha ha NONE....one less expense...tee hh Generally only fitted in cars with air-con. If dust and pollen enter the system whilst the condenser is chilling, theyll stick to the damp condenser. If you dont have air-con, you dont *need* a filter. Tim cool well said tim...you are the man .....no air con on mine |
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"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. Thats not going to stop if falling off when it gets hot enough to melt the solder but not to blow the thermal fuse in use. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first Not usually feasible with thermal fuses. and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. But will melt before the thermal fuse blows. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. |
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On 09/03/2020 21:43, John_j wrote:
"Brian Reay" wrote in message ... On 09/03/2020 19:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: I'd be careful shorting out the thermal fuse. Something caused it to 'open' and they are installed for a reason. If you solder it, use the 'heat shunt' method with pliers- like we used with old fashioned transistors. what is that then? Hold the wire, between the body and joint, with pliers while soldering. Thats not going to stop if falling off when it gets hot enough to melt the solder but not to blow the thermal fuse in use. As Harry mentioned, wrap the wire first Not usually feasible with thermal fuses. and 'nip it' up. The solder is really just to stop it shaking. Unless it overheats, the solder shouldn't really melt in normal use. But will melt before the thermal fuse blows. If, as it sounds, you've not changed the filter, it could be it has overheated. Filters should be changed every year at least. They aren't expensive- I pay between £7 and £20 or so, depending on the car. Usually a 5 min job. mechanical fixing then ... |
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Is the motor a brushed on, and is it worn or damaged internally? The extra
current spikes from a faulty motor can easily blow fuses., what else protects the thing if the motor seizes and shorts out the supply, do the resistors catch fire? Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... |
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One must ask ones self, why is this fuse here. I think you might just find
the flaw in your cunning plan? Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... On 09/03/2020 17:43, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... it looks welded on...can I just solder the new one on ? .... |
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On 09/03/2020 21:57, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
One must ask ones self, why is this fuse here. I think you might just find the flaw in your cunning plan? Brian that did occur to me when I saw it was "welded" on.... |
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On 09/03/2020 21:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote:
Is the motor a brushed on, and is it worn or damaged internally? The extra current spikes from a faulty motor can easily blow fuses., what else protects the thing if the motor seizes and shorts out the supply, do the resistors catch fire? Brian well the fan is running fine on full speed position four with no resistor in line....so who knows .... |
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On 09/03/2020 20:26, Brian Reay wrote:
Even worse, the all kinds of 'cr*p', including leaves, can end up in the heater. Often, there is space for one in the basic model - they just don't put the filter(s) in. Worth finding out and inserting. Helps if someone has Hay Fever as well. On the one I fixed by replacing the thermal fuse I found the motor shaft showing some signs of rust so out with the dip stick and one drop of engine oil was run down the shaft to the bearing. When I replaced the thermal fuse I cut the wires on the old fuse close to the body of the fuse. This left enough wire to fold over to make a mechanical connection to the new fuse leads before soldering. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 09/03/2020 21:06, Tim+ wrote:
Generally only fitted in cars with air-con. If dust and pollen enter the system whilst the condenser is chilling, theyll stick to the damp condenser. If you dont have air-con, you dont *need* a filter. Depends on the car. Ford used to save money by not installing a pollen/cabin filter on their lower range models. On my previous car the filter was fitted to the cabin air intake at the bottom of the windscreen -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Brian Gaff (Sofa 2) wrote
Is the motor a brushed on, and is it worn or damaged internally? The extra current spikes from a faulty motor can easily blow fuses., It’s a THERMAL fuse, not a current fuse. what else protects the thing if the motor seizes and shorts out the supply, do the resistors catch fire? "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... Dig out the resistor pack today from the blower after hanging upside down under the dash...seems it is the thermal fuse that has gone all the resistances test OK and no wiring or connectors are melted.... ....Thermal 216c fuse is £1.50 on ebay....do you think it will solve my problem if I replace it? ...and can I just short out the thermal fuse and see if all is working ? ...would have thought so ... |
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On 09/03/2020 21:43, John_j wrote:
But will melt before the thermal fuse blows. tin/lead solder will melt at 370C The thermal fuse will be 150C to 200C lower. In normal use fuse will blow long before the solder melts. If the solder melts in normal use you will have a greater problem than a blower motor fault! I've used a high power soldering iron to solder to the leads of thermal fuses without the problem of the fuse blowing. As other have said you can heat shunt the body of the fuse to prevent the body of it getting too hot but in my experience a 10 second application of a soldering iron to the fuse lead doesn't result in the body of the fuse getting too hot. There may be a problem of using a low power soldering iron that has to be left on the solder joint far too long. Clean up old wires and tin with fresh solder before making the joint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUaf394WIk -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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