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I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan
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On 07/03/2020 07:55, Jim Stewart wrote:
I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Sometimes not well enough |
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Jim Stewart wrote
I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. |
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On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote:
Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... |
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"Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... A decent modern electronic control. |
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On 07/03/2020 09:32, Rod Speed wrote:
"Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... A decent modern electronic control. that is good because these resistors fail regularly...doing mine when I get home on Monday.....until then I either freeze and can hear the radio of I can't .... |
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Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... Electronic control using MOSFETs probably, switch the power to the motor on and off very fast varying the on/off ratio to give speed control. There are lots of speed control chips available off the shelf for driving the MOSFET, overall very cheap to implement nowadays and can easily be well over 90% efficient as MOSFETs are very nearly perfect switches. -- Chris Green · |
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On 07/03/2020 09:43, Chris Green wrote:
Jim Stewart wrote: On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... Electronic control using MOSFETs probably, switch the power to the motor on and off very fast varying the on/off ratio to give speed control. There are lots of speed control chips available off the shelf for driving the MOSFET, overall very cheap to implement nowadays and can easily be well over 90% efficient as MOSFETs are very nearly perfect switches. thanks..good idea..... |
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Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 19:46:47 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. So they've become rejects, like you, you unwanted useless sociopathic senile pest. -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
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Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 20:32:43 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: what is used then ? ..... A decent modern electronic control. Talking about modern electronics, senile asshole: did you have another nice chat with Alexa again, you obnoxious lonely pest? LOL -- Marland revealing the senile sociopath's pathology: "You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real woman you know even if it is the only thing with a Female name that stays around around while you talk it to it. Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring them to death." MID: |
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Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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Chris Green wrote: Jim Stewart wrote: On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... Electronic control using MOSFETs probably, switch the power to the motor on and off very fast varying the on/off ratio to give speed control. There are lots of speed control chips available off the shelf for driving the MOSFET, overall very cheap to implement nowadays and can easily be well over 90% efficient as MOSFETs are very nearly perfect switches. First car I had with that was a BMW E39. Known as the hedgehog. That also was cooled by the heater airflow. First thing that failed in that car too. Oddly, the resistor pack in the 35 year old Rover is still fine, and the heater motor near always on the mid setting. The controller on the BMW was very nice. On auto, it started off on low with the engine cold, then ramped up the speed as it warmed up to heat the interior as fast as possible, then ramped back down to a quiet setting once the desired cabin temperature was achieved. -- *If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 07/03/2020 10:30, charles wrote:
In article , Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. ITYM OC35? PNP power transistors that would do a few amps when bolted to the chassis... -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. Herbert Spencer |
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charles wrote:
In article , Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. Whilst there are no doubt better ways of doing it, resistor packs are still commonly found. Even Binky has one and its not even finished yet! ;-) Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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wrote: On 07/03/2020 10:30, charles wrote: In article , Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. ITYM OC35? PNP power transistors that would do a few amps when bolted to the chassis... sorry typo should be 'OC35'. -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 07/03/2020 10:30, charles wrote:
In article , Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. My 05 Pug had a dropper resistor pack, tucked up above the footwell, inside the air-flow - absolute mare of a job to get out... Interestingly, the resistor itself was OK - it was the plastic pluggery around the connections that had melted, causing an intermittent (and, eventually, permanent) open-circuit |
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charles wrote: In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 07/03/2020 10:30, charles wrote: In article , Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. ITYM OC35? PNP power transistors that would do a few amps when bolted to the chassis... sorry typo should be 'OC35'. I'd hope the world has moved on from them. ;-) -- *INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 07/03/2020 13:05, Adrian Brentnall wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:30, charles wrote: In article , *** Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. my Peugeot 505, early 1980s vintage , used an OCR 35. I suspect the rest of the world has caught up by now. My 05 Pug had a dropper resistor pack, tucked up above the footwell, inside the air-flow - absolute mare of a job to get out... Interestingly, the resistor itself was OK - it was the plastic pluggery around the connections that had melted, causing an intermittent (and, eventually, permanent) open-circuit yes going to look for that problem when I do it on Monday ..... |
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On 07/03/2020 09:36, Jim Stewart wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:32, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... A decent modern electronic control. that is good because these resistors fail regularly...doing mine when I get home on Monday.....until then I either freeze and can hear the radio of I can't .... It was/is usually the thermal fuse that failed in the resistor packs. If the fuse blew the lower 3 speed settings would not work but the fastest always did because the resistor pack was no longer in circuit with the blower motor being directly across 12V. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 07/03/2020 19:39, alan_m wrote:
On 07/03/2020 09:36, Jim Stewart wrote: On 07/03/2020 09:32, Rod Speed wrote: "Jim Stewart" wrote in message ... On 07/03/2020 08:46, Rod Speed wrote: Jim Stewart wrote I take it car blower resistor packs are cooled by the airflow of the fan they are controlling....? Unlikely they use resistor packs anymore. what is used then ? ..... A decent modern electronic control. that is good because these resistors fail regularly...doing mine when I get home on Monday.....until then I either freeze and can hear the radio of I can't .... It was/is usually the thermal fuse that failed in the resistor packs. If the fuse blew the lower 3 speed settings would not work but the fastest always did because the resistor pack was no longer in circuit with the blower motor being directly across 12V. indeed |
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